Because Ethiopia = Ethiopians, Eritrea = Eritreans etc. etc. so people just assumed Somalia = Somalians

I cant watch it at work. Summary please?

All these nations at the bottom are much of a muchness. Also, I can accept that countries like New Zealand and Denmark have very little corruption. But the stinky corruption in countries like Italy, USA, Saudi Arabia etc. can be smelt a mile away.

I've heard similar allegations thrown at him by some local Asians who has had some dealings with him. I cannot verify their tales as a fact, but when there are so many different people saying the same things then there has to be a grain of truth to it. They cannot all be liars [these are all Muslims too btw].

Wait... In most jobs you end up with Dhuhur iyo Casar, and perhaps in the winter Maghreb as well. That's 2 salats, 3 at most. Who takes 5 breaks for that? BTW, those dudes looked like Somalis.

Bleh...they gonna portray us as these barbaric terrorists whilst they are the saviours of the world. So predictable.

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Do not believe it. This is the Daily Mail. It's a newspaper version of Fox News. Their aim is to spread as much propaganda about blacks, muslims, women, immigrants, homosexuals etc. Facts are irrelevant to them. As long as they abuse and smear entire ethnic groups and communities, their target audience are happy. Unless you are a white heterosexual male, you are a parasite.

75 is a big number. How reliable are these Kenyati folks?

He just needs to practise his C's and X's and he'll be fine. Those are the only two letters that non-Somalis have a problem with. Though if they are fine with some of the German & Scandinavian letters, then they should be alright with the Somali ones as well. This white girl sings quite well in Somali, all things considered. I don't know how to embed the video.

Iranians hiring Mexicans to assassinate a Saudi diplomat? Sounds like a Hollywood script in the making. No surprise that the mainstream press have swallowed the story hook, line and sinker.

I've watched this, and read people's reactions on twitter and other social media sites, and all the holier than thou people are coming out the woodwork with their "moral outrage" . That said, I'm not the most compassionate person, but even i would stop and help the child.

This place is a more posh version of other Somali forums. At least the people here are friendly and civil. BTW, what's with the numbers of viewers it says on each section. Are those numbers for real? It can't be.

rudy-Diiriye;749160 wrote: Sultan, well basically, 90% of religion believers are like u, even though in public some might act differently. Usually, religion flag waivers are fakers in sort of agenda related ways which has nothing to do with faith. For me, many years, i lived in societies where i was the only african or muslim. Since this was my younger years, i use to even forget how to speak the somali lingo! Some how, i never lost faith or my culture. Everytime that i met somalis, buried memories would get restored in my brain. Some one will play a somali song or remain me of holly days, then i would talk to my somali friends about it. Doubting is a mode of inquiring, therefore, discussing it with some close to you is a good way of digging deep into thoughts that challenge you sometimes. The more discussions about the brighter the light at end of the tunnel. I love islam since its a religion that preaches peace n love, event though, in the light of these days, u might think that its the opposite, since many rogue islam fackers and haters have been spreading false informations about islam. I have also done alot of research, i.e, like reading Al Ashar university publications, which u can find it here in the link below: http://www.islamfortoday.com/alazhar.htm Im with you on that. Problem is that topics like these are a massive taboo in our communities. If someone hears that you have doubted your faith, you will get vilified with no mercy. But I shall keep asking questions, and keep doing research to educate myself more, and hopefully my Imaan will go up in the process. Thanks to everyone else who has answered. I had to get this off my chest and Im glad that Im not the only one who has gone through this. I once met a Somali guy who openly admitted he was Agnostic. He was still a cultured guy, he chewed occasionally and listened to Somali songs. The only difference between him and Odey Xassan down the road is that this guy diinta bu ka tagey. I wanted to ask many questions about why and how he left Islam, but I felt it was too rude.

Som@li;749143 wrote: What the things you question, we may help find answers, and it is ok to question as long as you seek knowledge. Thre are many religious on this world and all claiming , believing to be right, but Islam is the one, and anyone can say his religious is the one, but one has to back with evidences. Most of the people are sheep, and without a question follow what their parents/communities followed, whether it is Islam, Christian, Hundus, Budhist etc Seek knowledge, and you will find the answers to make you peace. I'll give you an example., Things like stoning, lashings, chopping of hands, public executions etc. make me uncomfortable. I sort of try to rationalise it in my mind that this is not something I can agree with. But I feel I am going against the will of God. I dont know. I believe everyone deserves "due process of law" and without public humiliation. Maybe this is the result of 20 odd years of utter liberal propaganda that have been hammered into me since childhood. Other things I have questioned in Islam is things like inheritance jurisprudence and the distribution of wealth, how assets should be divided up between sons & daughters. I find myself disagreeing with it. I can name other things. *Blessed;749113 wrote: Hey, have a look at this. I know that you said that you still have faith in God but I think the struggle he went through might be of interest to you.. Thanks for this. I've watched this guy before. Although he went much further away from diinta I can still somewhat relate to this.

N.O.R.F;748758 wrote: Is this because of convenience? ie you can't be bothered doing the rituals or is there more to it? Sounds to me this is down to your lack of knowledge of Islam and not being prepared to learn rather than being convinced by anything else. There is alot of information out there but the first thing is for you to be commit yourself to learn about Islam and it's principals. Losing your faith? I doubt it. You just need to learn about it. It feels like I couldn't be bothered. Another thing is I question certain things in Islam and then immediately afterwards I question my status as a Muslim because I questioned certain elemens of Islam. It messed with my head. Things that a Muslim would never question amongst other Muslims due to fear of backlash.

*Blessed;748794 wrote: I know what you mean about Somalis, most tend to push people farther away from the deen rather than help them understand. Over the years, there have been a few things that I couldn't get my head around, but I dug and dug and asked, asked and asked and Alhamdulilah Allah has opened many doors for me. Islam is not a religion which seeks blind followers, Allah implores us to seek, find and question and to also reflect and believe with certainty. Make a note of the aspects of Islam which confuse you and research on them, read and ask people of knowledge, even scholars are easy to contact these days. I would suggest that you start with the notion of tawheed, Islamic monotheism - Bilal Phillips The Fundamentals of Islamic Monotheism. That's an issue with me. There have been things I just couldn't get my head around and years ago I never dared to question anything cos I feared the backlash that may have occurred. I WANT to believe that Islam is the one and true deen, though my Imaan is at such a low point that nothing affects my heart. You could recite to me the most amazing surah + tafseer and it wouldn't have the positive affect on my heart that it should. I've just become numb to all of this. Chocolate and Honey;748852 wrote: It is ok to question as long as you are seeking. It happens to a lot of us, doubting I mean. It seems to me that you are sort of ignorant about the reasons for the rituals and without a solid reason and belief, the rituals such as prayers and charity are meaningless. I would reccomend you to talk to your local Imam, preferably not Somali. State your concerns and conflicts with the religion and listen to what he says with an open mind. Read, research and research some more. This is the true religion, the real raw deal. Thanks. I know rituals are meaningless without a solid belief system. I just woke up one morning and realised I reached a critical point where I needed to make drastic changes to my Imaan cos I am drifting farther and farther away. I'll continue to research and speak to a local Imaan and hopefully I can get on the right track. Sometimes its good to confide in someone about your troubles and Im sure there are other people who have doubts too, but its a shame that if our communities hear "so and so are doubting XYZ" they'll vilify you. I do wonder how often people go through this, or maybe Im just a rare occurrence.

Walahi Im not. Im deadly serious.

Recently I have been having some faith problems. I'll try and keep it as short as I can. I was born in Europe and grew up in a pretty liberal family. My parents never sent me to dugsi and never told me to pray. It was only at aged 12 where my friends at the time went to dugsi and I just tagged along with them and I ended up learning the basic of diinta, reading and writing Arabic etc.But as I grew older I became further & further away from Islam. I did not pray for 3 years [18-21]. Not even Friday prayers and Eid prayers. I am really really scared that I am loosing my faith all of a sudden and that I'd not be forgiven for this but i just cant make it stop. I feel like praying is a burden, not a privilege. I still believe in the existence of God but I keep questioning myself if Islam is the right religion for me/us. Or if any religion is the right one. There are a lot of "What ifs" going around in my head. I haven't talked to anyone in real life about this, cos its a bit of a taboo subject in our community, and you know Somalis, they can be extremely judgemental. And that is not helpful for me. I just want to know has anyone else gone through this phase.

This has been common knowledge amongst Somalis for years now. We all know the root cause of piracy, but try and explain that to a foreigner that there are Saudis and Europeans who are [or were] dumping toxic waste on our shores, and you just get a blank dismissive stare. Bleh...

Liban Abdi, born 5th October 1988, played for Championship outfit Sheffield United, and is now on the books of Hungarian side Ferencvárosi TC

Chelsea really need to win today to widen that gap between 4th and 5th.

Africans need to stop reproducing like rabbits. As for South Sudan - Well, Port Sudan is located in the north and South Sudanese will get shat on, predictably.

^ if you want to trust the mass American media propaganda machine, then by all means do so. After all they don't have a history of lying and manipulating people, do they? The stories they come out with don't add up, hence people being very cynical about them. But as per usual the "conspiracy" labels is being thrown about as soon as people question their propaganda intoxication.

First the fake hoax Yemen terror package, and now this nonsense. The American Imperialists are really desperate to get into the area between Yemen and Somalia. This is a choke point as is the Suez Canal. Whoever controls this, controls much of Maritime Trade in the region. If you don't go through there, it means you have to travel all the way around Africa. Big financial difference. Currently China is getting some 60% of their energy investment from Sudan, and the Chinese travel in & out of Bab-el-Mandeb to get to Port of Sudan. Don't be surprised if the next big false flag terrorism is by a Somali or Yemeni [from Somalia or Yemen]. Obama will send his US Military Guerillas over there quicker than he can knock one out.