@Chocolate & Honey. As a reminder...Allah did not give you freedom of choice to go sleep with a drunkard, wear a bikini or a thong or mix/beautify yourself infront of non-mahram men etc etc. Its grossly unIslamic and you are doing it at your own peril. Each and every member who have posted here, knows this. These are exactly sort of freedom the West has corrupted your soul with. They say follow ur heart. It has been noted that more Somali muslim women are now becoming more pious following their faith but look at you with your treacherous comments!! You should hold your head down in shame and guilt. Final thot: And reminding you your position in deen & society is not sexism. It is what is required from us because we as muslims owe each other sincere advice. A tradition of our Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W)

Another pont worth mentioning is mixture of two sexes at workplace. Women is allowed to work but with some limits and without mixing wit men. In the first Islamic battles, women shared the fight but in clean angelic atmosphere. Both sides were pure, the muslim soldiers and those women who nursed and served them. Goin far in the mixing would lead two things: stimulating and increasing the sex passion in the two sexes, or on the contrary supressing it. Mixing would lead to attraction og the male & female according to the natural instinct. If there are no limits to this mixing things would be in mess and diseases will spread among people as a result of adultery. In this case, society would be in great disorder and corruption. Much hatred and grudges would among those fathers whose daughters were harmed, the husbands who were wronged by their wives, and those men who were competing for one lover. On the other hand, it is said over mixing between male and females in so many meetings leads to less interest and less attraction between the two sexes which causes feeble sexual atttraction or diverting that passion to other causes, as some psychologists assume. No wonder you see too many homosexuals among the white middle class. Familiarity with a thing makes it less effective. And on the contrary, a feeble fading sexual appeal is a cause of having weaker offspring with worse characteristics. The man who is accustomed to see feminine charms but is not aroused sexually needs other views and positions which are unfamiliar to him to be aroused. This coldness makes him deprived of the feeling of his manliness which leads to severe pains at the depth of his self. He feels insult and inferiority. This makes him seek sexual relation by meeting and connecting mistresses and ***'z, as well as practicing odd ways and position. Like for instance, bondage n stuff like that. That might lead hm to fall victim to drugs to compesate the loss of pleasure. He might also involve in crime or risky adventure to prove his manliness in another way. Homosexuality may affect men & women as well. The adverse effect of mixing of two sexes are plain to see above. It results in less interest & attraction leading to other sick alternative or, on the other hand, stimulating and increasing the drive which could inevitably lead to adultery and illicit affairs. Not that we're fingerpointing at our sistaz shortcomings, we're just saying the truth that you ought to follow. When Allah ordered the separation of the sexes, HE knows better. And if Im going to be labelled Shabaab for speaking the truth, then go ahead, nevertheless I shall say the truth whether you like it or not. << And should the truth follow their low desires, surely the heavens and the earth and all those therein would have perished. Nay! We have brought to them their reminder, but from the their reminder they turn aside<< Suratil Al Mumenoon, Verse 21.

Thanks guys. Aaliyah & Sharmarke have raised some good points, esp about parents who were not into deen during their youth and hooyos walking with hijabless daughters with fitting jeans in the streets while themselves fully covered. These kinda mothers have clearly drifted away from deen, and worst still they are failing in their parental duties to provide their children with a solid Islamic education due to lack of care!! This usually results in loss of morality in children which in turn could lead to far greater problems in the future. They will be held fully accountable for every sin committed by the child until when the he/she matures and becomea an adult. Allah knows best. Aaliyah, I like ur thinking. Seems youd make a good mother if you're willling to sacrife for the best of the children. My suggestion is do not ever squander your time for a career that will exhaust, displease and unsatisfy you in favour of becoming a loving wife & responsible mother. You see, the notion of a woman who busts her *** and works for her own, in fact, not true. She works because the capitalist creed has placed her in that position. She has no alternative but to submit to the conditions of that society, even though she may think shes working on her own accord and without being coerced. The presumption that there is no difference btw men & women, in fact, deprives her of her freedom. Real freedom. Salaam.

As for the responsible adult somali women, they should pour more emphasis on gaining the compulsory Islamic education & settling down to establish a family, rather than wasting their precious time inhabiting campuses studying for valueless lessons You can not be serious?? Educated, professional female workforce is nesseary if we want to establish a healthy Islamic society. Also, studying the deen is integral to the life of the Muslim, you don't leave it or cast it aside because of your concerns with dunya. Education is important part of life and everybody HAS to be educated, however I think it's fair to say careers & motherhood dont mix. A womens job is to get married and raise children. Any effort beside this is useless especially in her life. In fact women would lose if they left marriage, something no fame, honour or position coud compesate. A womans work in public would divert her from looking after her husband and children because she would return to her house very tired & displeased. Who, then, would entertain the other? The man or the woman? Who would fondle the children? Would not everybody then, even the child, be a cog-wheel in a dead silent machine in a life which has no quietness or stability? What if it is said that we would have half of society without a job? We would answer: Work should contain all the jobless men before any woman is allowed to have office. A working man would support himself and the woman from the other half of society. Recent tendency of delaying motherhood for the sake of career has its devastating implications too. Ranging from bequething infertility to the offspring to breast cancer epidemics. So this is not helpful either.

Aaliyyah;743879 wrote: ^Education is important part of life. Tan kale markaad waxbaratid ood isku filantahay ayuu ninkuna ku ihtiramaya.. We live a different time than our parents, gabadh isku filan un aya aduunkan ka dabalanasa (im not saying she shouldnt stay home to take care of her kids and family..but a man should know that if he walks out of that door waad isku filantahay that way he will respect you even more..) Things were different in our parents time..ihtiraam waad heli hadad xita iskool waliga soo dhigan oo caruurtaada ku filnaantid..laakin hada waxa ma shaqeenaso..kolay aniga saas bay ila tahay! as for the settling part...guurku wa calaf iyo qof wacan in aad heshid! u dont just settle for the sake of getting married!.. salaam Utterly true. Education liberates ppl from the shackles of ignorance & darkness. I agree with most of what you have said. However, in regards to ihtiraam, I reckon you'd notice a twofold increase of deep respect if you choose to pursue more Islamic knowledge, be diligent in your prayers and to live deen before dunya. That would reflect your love of God which is what makes the real difference. Worldly education is important but so is deen twice as much. You are right on guurku. Wa calaf. Having said that, somali women should decrease the standards they have set up for themselves.There is nothing wrong having standards but fostering delusional and unrealistic blueprint of life is altogether another thing. It must be noted that marriage institution & family life, in the West and now parts of Asia too, are rapidly being destroyed. Therefore I urge my fellow somali brothers and sisters to get married at the first istance. For the ladies, there is no perfect men but only in Jannah.

Any Somali parent who permits their daughter to move to a uni campus is grossly lacking Islamic morals. Whether conciously or unconciously, they would be helping to expose her to all sorts of debauchery that comes along with the immorality of campus life. As for the responsible adult somali women, they should pour more emphasis on gaining the compulsory Islamic education & settling down to establish a family, rather than wasting their precious time inhabiting campuses studying for valueless lessons.

Elites are perennial as I argue. What matters is who they are and ours is the first Era in which we are ruled by elites in disguise. Far from being classless or a fuctioning meritocracy, The West is dominated by an oligarchy of proffesional egalitarians. Their aim is noy to rise power aspiration but to exploit mass taste, mass gullibilty or mass spending power for their own advantages. Their Populism is in fact a pervasion of democracy, that sickens the age.

Its just a Theory of Evolution. Nothing has been proved for real.

The Global Nomads. Despite the unrelenting old clan structures, I can argue that we are in a process creating a transnational ethnicity that surpass the Nation-State itself and defies the effects of 21st century globalization. In a lot of ways, our history gives us an advantage for the formation of the transnational or global ethnicity. Over 1 million Somalis have been scattered around the globe since the collapse of the State. Yet we have managed to maintain strong national and ethnic consiousness. How we explain this paradox?

Repugnant and unsightly.