Yep i do Illmatic, however i think every nations allways has to have some form of defence to ward off 'evil spirits'of such movements like the once driving american administrations, namely Corprate america, various Lobbying group i.e. Jewish, christian lobby. Becuase if u leave it to chance they will no doubt englufe which ever country it has an interest or crux with.

wot u say is very true an accurate unfortunaetly OGUN, thats the situation a lot of us are in now, but inshallah things will improve soon, beacuse we are starting to talk about everythin that has resulted in our demise, including Tribalism. And even if the ppl suppose to be leading our various Factions arent, most of us ordinary ppl are and have been for along time. so i hope in tyhe future when the opptunity arises then we (ordinary ppl) will be ready to go back and help regenrate our devated country indeed it is all ready happening in somali land and Puntland. I share u bleak out look saxib, but i must strive to think that somalia can still be rrevived once more with its ppl being its source of life, wot ever tribe they belong to inshallah.

Na, i use to accpet ppl's view, that Plat was the same as cryuff but to be honest a saw a video of him, and a gr8 player he was but Not a ZINEDIN ZIDANE, he didnt have much skill's he was more of stricker than a creater midfielder. In my opnion Zidane is one of the greatest players this world has ever seen, i Rank him Up there with Pele and Maradonna, even pele himself said @ last years champion's league final 'zidane is a unique player, he has brought he's own stlye'.

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True but Illimatic. But that isnt the point with regard to the relaity of today, i cant see a nuclear armed Suadi arabia trying to expand west can u!!!. True though they, or if we had developed Nuclear Capability then that, looking out our disastories reason history would have been a clamaty. But thats not the case.

On second thoughts true, Blaze it up

I was only kiddin saxib, i only smoke sheesa.........and that for eductaional rather than recreational purposes..i think.

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Thx very much Dela Cruz very much appreciated saxib, i will be siffiting through my list of doogy friends to see which one possess any of those channels so i can go and cheer on the 'Giallorossi’s'. lazio's gonna get their ass wiped.

Now turn off's ---------------- ''any girl who has a big head due to what she achieved any girl who talks of feminism any girl who dislikes her tradition and people any girl who speaks foreign language when spoken with somali any girl who loughs loud in public any girl who uses excess perfume (allergic to it) any girl who feels being with a non-somali is an achievement any girl feels ashamed of other somalis tendancies any girl who doesn't respect her parents and everyone else any girl who is selfish and inconsiderate'' I couldnt agree more, although i might like to add those who are not modest i.e.like dressing like western ladies, and those who are indifferent when it comes to religon.

To some extent hes right tho, coz the bush admin is run by rumsfield and cheney and not even by Dubya!..so he has a note but he went a lil farr Dont u mean that dubya is run top down by The whity house

''At the on-going somali talks in kenya, the arab league,IGAAD and the others are thinking of bringing charges against warlords..god make it happen!'' Me to Lakkad, For me the cant disappear quick enough, If at all possible i woudl like to see Capital Punishment impossed on them all.

Salam aleikum I decided to make my on little research, browing from another brothers idea. one can clealy see when u click into the forums tab, that the over welming majority of ppl's tobics and responses have been in the general section, is it beacuse we dont relate well with commitment or accept fixed views (for want of better experssions) are we becoming to open minded? Women Matters 3772 Islam Is The Way 1687 Got Any Jokes? 1271 General 11300 Poetry 1631 Beasicly i think these forums go a bit of the way to explaining wot we are like, i would juts like to see if any one else conqours with this view, or indeed disagrees or has amore advance view. Thx ppl all replys apprecaited

I would like to conqour with Hashi, and also my nxt Fav sport is smokin hashisi

I dont no about that illmatic, i would agree of the 2 perhaps North Keora might be the one to use such WMD, or might aid others to use such weopens, but that to be honest is a rather FarFetched possibilty given the current 'war on terrorism'. The current politcal climate see's the us restructuring its relations with the rest of the world. It Has firmly placed its self as the only super-power and now its trying Gain from this unique position. What has been continues, and i suppose in the near future will even get worse is the Interferince in reginol poltics and the economic stability of such regions by america. Its Military and economic might gives it an advantage which it has, instead of acting as a benin harmonice force, used consitantly to suppress ppl of every devolping nation in every way shape and form, especially muslim nations. I also think they are very clever in the way they have managed to higten fears about 'rogue'nations (the to me to are the biggest rogue nation)that allegadly posses or a seeking to develop nuclear capabilities, as a means to an end, the end being the contining and indeed expansion further east into the asain continet. I view american involvment either direct, or by proxiy (which is what the do most of the time) to be the greates threat facing the world.

Basketball is a gr8 spectartor sport, for somethin like NBA final's, howvere to watch it all year around, na i think its abit to repetitive, besides its not somethin that most ppl here in the uk particapte in. Where as am sure in the us, its the other way around with the home grown sports, i.e. Basketball Baseball American hand ball , domenating and soccer popularoty is confined to the womens game only.

I think this particular tobic has been debated to its death, and perhaps should be left alone. Of course as we are now we are 100% somali's, the country we come from is situated on the horn of east africa (a quick reminder), hence on that bases one can conclude that we are african. However i think it is very important to never forget our origins, the thing i keep noticing is that we are saying that just becauze were muslims that doesnt make as arabs, thats true indeed. Islam is the religion of mankind, and muslims, as i know come from as far a reach as china to Brazil. What i dont understand is the dislike ppl in this debate seem to exude against any suggestion that we do share a heritage with arabs, just as some eritreans, and some ethopians undoubtly do, and am in no doubt also that some tanzinians,and other coastal countries on the east coast of africa do. We should acknowledge that we do share an ancestory with, in particular yemeni's, but rember when it comes down to it we are, like brother Mujahid rightly pointed out Muslims, it just so happens African muslims.

salam aleikum saxib, am sure u will indeed find this site to be of worth, am already an addict myself.

if thats correct then it's sad to here, i always viewed wot ppl said about ethiopa's envolvment within somalia with sincesim, but if this true then its very sad to here indeed.

The worst thing about this all is that most ppl are quite aware of the acctualties of this so called war on terrorism, and the real reasons for wanting to invade iraq, and indeed to employ other policies around the region. But the still stay silen, the is a shocking lack of dervisty and critisms in the 'free press'? why. lol Hypocoracies one after the other.

KOOL CUSHTIC CUTIE,

My dream team would have been as follows Formattion: 3, 5 , 2 Goal Keeper (1)Peter Shimicheal (2) Dino Zoff Defence: Baresi (CB), BecknBaur (CB), Rikaard (CB) Medfield: Revilno(LM), E.Davids(DM) ,Zidane (MC), Cafu (RM), Maradona (AMC) Attack: Ronaldo (CF) M. VanBasten (CF).

lol very good COVER!!! of Joe's Dont wanna be a 'player' no more, my intentions are not to exposes u saxib, rather to appalude u on ur good taste in muzic

we failed to recognize that.there's a clear line between religion and selfserving common iterest.i have to say all the views you presented here are motivated by religion.my dear somali sisters and brothers why are your opinions so religion centered???it's one thing to have religion morals but it's another to center that to all your opionions. khadar01 Saxib, my opnion is religous centered bacuase the specific problem being debated here, and the root of most problems that we (somali's in the developed countries)find ourselves in these days is through ignorance saxib, ignorance of islam. Indeed islam is more than juts MORALS saxib, its is a complete way of life, with solutions to everthin politcal economical social and so forth. It is my opnion , and this is a introspective outlook, that most of use are bankrupt when it comes to having the requried knowledge of Al-islam, consequently we find ourselves in a position where we start to look for solutions in the wrong places, an air of arogance creep's into our thinking without us being knowing about it unless its pointed out to us. so my answer to u Khadar bro is , with me @ least, that when i see a problem i know that the solution to that porblem can adressed by adopting and most importnatly Implementing islam in my life's affairs, whether it be regarding the smallest matter, to the biggest, nothing is devioed of islam Bro. I hope that answered ur question

well my thoughts on this really comes in two parts saxib. I would think most nomads when they start replyin to this post would say its a good thing that they do possess or on the way to possing nuclear capabilities. I would agree in the sense that it gives it that extra political dimensoon to disagree ideologicaly with america and the west and hence put of a gradutal dominitation of their very existence polticaly, economically and so forth. However it does mean that yet another country has a nuclear weapon, and thus it increases even more the risk of the eventuality of some event like so happing in the future. however my final (and hopefully ) anmbigous opnion is that its a good thing. Isreal has nuclear Capabilities why isnt it being chalanged, so to does India and Pakistan why werent they stoped. America and britian do so who are they especialy america and britian to say on the one hand the reserve the right to use , and have used them (hiroshima, Nagasaki)such weapon of mass destructions (WMD) will preaching that those countries, regimes who seek them are 'evil, threat to 'civiliastion'. It is all a smoke screen developed with startegic prosition to enable a continum of the currnet status Quo, i.e. Western Imperilism