Thx very much for the post saxiib it was gr8 to read those qoutes again. Walaahi it doesnt take much to acknowledge what is around u but honesty. Thats is the problem with all too many people who disbelive arrogance that darkens the heart. Keep contributing these postive topics Tenacious_J.

Perhaps instead of dowry arrangements , which most young somali guys like myself, and am sure u will probably not be able to afford. we should come up with a more useful Valution Metric . Becaue lets face it is the revenues and costs after the marriage that should be considered. So i think i have cum up with a modern equvilent. I have an idea of a grading system for those brothers fortunate enough to have finished university which can be used as an approximation for the type of earning power for the future. 5 = very good earning potential 5c = good eearning potential 5 = stable earning potential and it gradual diminishes from that position. Business and Finance 1 degree = 5 2.1 degree = 4 2.2 degree = 3 3 degree = 2 pass = 1 Technology and desgin course 1 degree = 4 2.1 degree = 3 2.2 degree = 2 3 degree = 1 pass = 0 (avoid) Computer and IT 1 degree = 5c 2.1 degree = 4c 2.2 degree = 3c 3 degree = 2c pass = 1c Social Sciences 1 degree = 4 2.1 degree = 3 2.2 degree = 2 3 degree = 1 pass = 0 well thats my suggestion, rather simplistic @ the mo but am sure it can developed further.

Where u @ , na seriously i understand what your saying. I can only speak from my expriences and say that its not only somali girls that play games most do. However i dont no whether somali girls do more. The only expirence i have had with a somali lady was quite the opposite i must say. She was so open, honest, polite and all these inspite of the fact that she was well aware of just how attractive the guys (like myself )found her. But then again i think thats to do with the fact that she isnt ur tybical nomad queeny so who knows. Like Che-Guevara said abayo just hang in there biad ur time and hopefully u will meet someone that u can get on with. My only advise would be to avoid the (younger guys sorry Junior nomads :cool: ) because u'd just be wasting ur time there.

walaahi gr8 post Saxiib enjoyed reading it very much.

Farah i detect an in-genius nomad @ work here , are u perhaps attempting to get some ppl to do an essay u have due under this guise? or am i just imagining things as usual

I have to be honest and say that the vast majority of ethopian gals ihave seen have been quite beautifull and have exhibited those classical features. However i was quite ignorant as to how beautifull and varied in looks our somalia women are up until last year where i had the chance to interact with many of my beautfill sisters in london. I think they are the most beautifull ladies in the world, just a shame that what the posses in beauty the sometimes luck in inteligence.

I think true love is when you cant stop thinking about someone, cant eat because of that, and u feel void.......yes am afriad i have fallen in luv with my Championship manager

I can accept that Rampage.... that is that henry was and still is a winger trying to play in a striking position. As for you comments on Van i agree to a certain extent. He isnt a player like henry but then again not alot of people are Race doggs like Henry , and he hasnt got no finishing power. I conceed that he can score fee kicks some times, and some long shots. But the 'Acid Test' of a gr8 player is the one who scores his 'bread and butter' goals on bigg occasions, And that miss he had yesturday and the one he did againts Man U a week Back is why i personal would have Van instead of Henry. Henry has still got plenty of time to improve, and he should . 1) His heading 2) his left foot shots 3) his one on one with goal keepers 4) his attitude (he thinks his king henry) lol Maybe then he will become a complete player. But rUUD vAN is @ the mo much better. 1) Gr8 @ holding up the ball 2) left foot and right shooting 3) Can header 4) gr8 @ one v one with keepers and finally and most importantly 5) Scores crucial goals i.e. 2 against Leverkuson 2 against Basel

St Teresa's school in nairobi kenya ????

St Teresa's school in nairobi kenya ????

I would hazard a guess that that is exactly what their intent is Jamaal, they have been buildling mass troop numbers in the horn in jabuti and confereing with ethopian govt. And rember this comes just afew days after Minster Melez of ethopia claimed that somalia had links to Al-qaida? I think things a falling into place all to allarmingly well. A picture, a pretext can be set for entering the horn, or @ the very list establish long term bases of one sort or another.

lol Rampage i see ur a gooner huh. well i said henry is a gr8 player, gr8 off the ball running gr8 pace But knowhere near being a complete striker. But then i suppose if he scores so much he doesnt have to be. And com'on u havin a laugh when u say henry has got skill??? u sure there only one i have seen is his speed and that isnt a skill, i can admit though that he has become a bit of a dead specialist in these last few years. But For Van i think that goal against basel a few weeks back said it all.

Fun? for the suffering of your fellow somalis? where is your moral judgement or faith? Cajaiib Badnaa

Salam calaykum first just like to wlcm u to the site aswell saxiib. Secondly i would just Like echo the princple words of muraad. We have have totally negleted our relationship as muslims brothers and sisters to the point where if someone points out this basic hypocrasy of ours (our claim to be muslim, yet we kill each other based on tribe loyalty) they will not acknowledge it, and try to be little you by saying somethin like 'your too religious'. I suspect that most nomads in here have there opnion, and am quite sure the majority of which will be different to each others. What is needed is not to try and resolve the problems that occured in the past coz quite frankly they have already taken their toll i.e. we are displased ppl, without a country, without a govt, without nothin. what is needed is to stop this continued, blantant and unbelivable stupid destructive instinct off ours to attach ourselves to our tribe or some bankrupt nostalger for the area were our fathers and forefathers originated from in somalia. We need to move from our Position of ignorance, and by that i dont mean that of articulation or knowledge in the sense of acdemia. Because we have done that and yet were are still divided around tribe issue??? What i mean is the lack of knowledge of islam, because it is so evident from the actions of the warloads backhome, and unfortunately and sadly in some of those who are fortunate enough to have escaped the carnage back home. I myself firmly belive, that the vast majority of the problem with somalia derives from our hypocracy and total neglet of duties as muslims. And untill we start to behave as muslim and treat each others as brothers and sisters (the most basic of requirments) we will never reslove our problems back home. Infact the current climate of 'am a somalilander, am from puntland, am from somalia' is very depressing, if anything it just shows that we continue in our ignorance and in this ignorance we will continue to suffer back home, and all over the world. we were once leaves resting apone a branch off a great tree. Now we are spread out like leaves that have fallen from a tree. May allah have mercy on us, and continue to guide us from this ignornace that has so darkend our heartss.

LST, Land-locked Ethio may entertain the idea because they are in need of sea port so much that they are making it national security issue at the expense of other national priorities. I'm ofended by the idea. Having hand in the Somalia's civil war, occupying Ogaden illegaly, and lying about facts about Al-itahaad to boost its relative importance to the West, Ethiopia is in a position to have a say about our future government. We don't even have a unified voice that can speak on our behave. It is so sad these Xabashi are acting as a grand architect and indispensible power in horn of Africa. Look at us! What's wrong with the warlords? Don't they even see these grand sheme? That is it! I get that off my chest!..feel better. My setiments exactly.

Well since no clear out right favourite has emerged from the intial group stage 2 matches, i would say man u are still very much in the frame for being one of the favourites, certainly no one is talking to much about their chances @ hme or abroad and i think that coupled with the fact that they are still wining BIGG BIGG games with a re-arranged 11 makes them ,for me anyway, the best english team in europe this year. But to win i dont no very difficult, Inter look gr8, so to do Valencia and Barca, not to mention Depro and Juve and of course there is Ac Milan and Real Madrid.............wow lol that is quite a list i wouldnt hazard a guess myself i think the team who wins tis year's competion will certainly be one of the gr8 teams of all time considering the strengths of tyhe respect squads of the bigg 6 teams.

Personaly myself i would go for Ruud VAN nISRTIORY :confused: , because everytime he is any where near the penalty box he seems to score, where as henry has devastating pace and fantastic off the ball running. But for me henry is a gr8 player, but i dont think a gr8 strker in the traditional sense and on startuday he reminded me why i didnt really rate him above Ruud.Van NIstirouy :confused: . Cum'on Nomads i no there are a lot of Glory hunter in the somali community so the Gonners and Red Devils show urselves.

Tell me about it Khar, being a last year student (Inshallah) a lot of students have sort to make friends with me in these remaning weeks .

We have a lot of problemsb MsWord And i dont no how we might seek to solve them all. All i no is that ur right, we have been in the west for a relativly short space of time, and yet we have managed to assimilate to the point were we have the situations you described above in ur posting. We have had a disastors recent history, and its no shock to me that some have gone astray (may allah gide tehm back to the rigth path) however what is really worrying, and indeed sad to see is teh extent to which A LOT of somalia men and increasingly women are doing all sorts of ****

"People are beginning to recognize that al-Ittihad is indeed a threat linked to al-Qaeda" What else would an etho minster say. "He offered no evidence to substantiate these views". Thats very intersting "But with senior US officials due in Addis Ababa next week, Mr Meles will have every opportunity to convince them that the group had a hand in the attacks". Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm perhaps negotiate some potential deal (forerign Aid, militray add?, Water ) in exchange for somethin the americans require about somalia. "The prime minister was speaking after his return to Addis Ababa from the United States, where he said he had DISCUSSED SECURITY MATTERS with President George W Bush." lol BOLLOCKS who gives a **** wot he thinks. Growing threat :mad: The attacks on Israelis in the Kenyan port of Mombasa have reinforced Ethiopia's long-held belief that Somalia is a source of instability throughout the region. There are thousands of Somalis in Kenya "Ethiopia has frequently warned about the dangers posed by the obscure al-Ittihad group." But no one has seemed to have reported about its contnious support for warloads and independant interfrence in somalia. The BBC report continues : The group is seen not only as a threat to Ethiopian security, but - because of its links to al-Qaeda - as a cause of international concern. Before the Kenyan attacks these warnings tended to be treated with some scepticism in the West. Now, says Mr Meles, they are receiving greater attention: "People are beginning to recognise that al-Ittihad is indeed a threat linked to al-Qaeda." I mean how Transparnt is this attempt to try and win some form of favour from the west. The indians are certainly doing the same claiming the same about pakistan. So to do the jews, but wot else would they say. The russians aswell against the Cheychans. The list seems to grow quartely. I just dispare when reading such articles, because regardless of the validity of them the is no credible oposition to them, which in a way makes me understand why the ethoy govt would do so. wE ARE NOT wE but uS (NORTH,SOUTH, PUNT,SOMALILAND). dIvided we stand and aLone we will continue to fAll, in the process suffering all sorts of problems @ teh hands of our enemies.

I am left really sickned and feel a sense of dispare after reading such a flithy disgusting and frightening article. Why Frightening? well where are in a very bad situtuion as somalis right now. Those stories in that Distugustong article can go on indefinately unchallanged and those sick *******s that are Qanis and those gay movements can claim all sorts of things without somalis being able to counter them. And even more serious is the prospect of ppl like that Qanis Doctor, Subxanllah, going back to somalia and posining our desparte ppl with their flith. They call as savages for rejecting there disgusting practise.One of them speaks about rejecting our arabic tradition (Islam) and going back to being animals. May God help our ppl back home from Savages and animals like these ppl, becaue those in power in somalia certainly cannot and worse yet maye actually wlcm these qanis back into somalia in return for some kind of incentive. May Allah help as indeed.

"gunners fans are such bad losers!! i mean you guys lose!! my cuzins are arsenal fans and Rio, my cuzin friend who plays for united got them tickets to watch the game 2day at old trafford and i told him to get me Wes Brown's shirt but the sore loser couldnt be bothered to go the players lounge and chill wid the players.. instead they go to the town centre to met up wid rio!! i was waiting for shirt " I no just what u mean, my friends brother Ronnie playes for Real Madrid invited us and some other guys down to his house and when we got there, the lost an important game, and when ronnie came hone to eat is FAAV bEABS He found them all gone some of them took the piss and and eat all his brazillan beans. But what can u do

lol @ C C am not ready to go into rehabilitation abayo.

lol @ C C am not ready to go into rehabilitation abayo.

Just a little up date naomds Miss Turkey won , coincidence or Not?? Well just thought i would post my opnion on that.