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Originally posted by OG_Girl: Bint..what Aqeeda? Yes I 'm Shia ethna-Asharey(12 Imams). Salafi, Since you believe we aren't muslims. What we are debating here?To prove that I'm a muslim and register in your book of who is muslim and who he is not?If you have prove that we'ren't muslims Good for you. I thank God that is your only Wahabis opinion. PS:Bent, My Aqeeda is Islam. Allah can change his mind but does he? I don't know!! You even want to control Allah's rights? Can you just wait for Kaberokom(Nur)..lol. Salam Am sorry to note that OG GIRL calls anyone not in the Shia path, a salafi or a wahabi..My freind it has been shown that you SHIA are dwelling on part time issues..meaning You don't want to be straight forward with issues.Someone simply posted the AQEEDAH of SHIAS ITHNA ASHARI...and asked do u accept this is your Aqeedah..?you were supposed to answer YES OR NO...so that someone can ask you another question or help you out.Now inserting issues like KABERKOMI...or KHOMEINI...or other stories..or even talking about 4year kid with 'divine 'powers to counsel the WHOLE MUSLIM NATION...this is ridiculous..even the prophet himself who was the first AHLUL BAYT was given the religion @40years..How come a small kid..@4 years starts preaching the WHOLE MUSLIM NATION...no wonder you don't even accept your own aqeedah... BE STRAIGHT....we ain't here for small timers.. Thank you..

Originally posted by Shams-ud-Din: In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Dear brothers and sisters, I would like to suggest that dealing with the issues of fundamentals in the Islamic creed, needs to be taken one at the time to make any meaningful progress in presenting the truth. If our shiicaa brethren agree with us on the unquestionably of the glorious Qur’aan, I would also like to suggest that we from now on base all our judgments on the Qur’aan. If your are true to your claims of open mindedness and seeking the truth, when the XAQQ comes, BAADHIL vanishes. The ignorant (like me) and the logically challenged should greatly benefit, unlike those who Allah described as “summum bukmun cumyunâ€, also present in the forum. We should present and examine the following shiicaa concepts, such as “caqiidatul badaaâ€, “caqiidatul dhiin†etc. one by one in the light of the Qur’aan and if the Qur’aan supports these concepts, we should accept , but if the Qur’aan rejects these concept, then we should all reject and condemn these stances. I hope you’ll all agree on the rulings of the glorious Qur’aan in which there is no doubt, so we can atleast start a constructive discussion here. Whenever his Lord called upon him to surrender, he readily responded: I surrender to the Lord of all the worlds (suuratul-baqarah 131) I have turned my face to him who is the Creator of the heavens and the earth, having turned away from all else (suuratul-ancaam 79) I’ll be waiting for your responses. Thank you Brother Shamsudin..I appreciate your concern and effort to bring to discussions topics of great importance to our boards.I do appreciate your Concern for all NOMADS to base their arguments and counter arguments on the HOLY QURAAN...But I still assume some NOMADS..will never accept the 'INTERPRETATION'..of the HOLY QURAAN...this seems ridiculous to me and playing with other people conscience..because the Holy Quraan was in Arabic and alhamdulillah many translaters managed to translate in English almost to the degree of 99.9%..So how come you will start a different kind of Translation..of your own with a 0.0001% acceptance? Our Dear Shia freinds, Please first accept we use the Holy Quraan as our way of solving our differences..Instead of resorting to politics and Current world happening..we wish to discuss and accept that ..Shiasm is way far from ISLAM...We don't need to know if London was bombed or not..What we need is to separate 'Wheat From Chaff'..While people are busy trying to sort things out, you go all along singing about fatwas and other unneccesary distractions.. Peace.

Originally posted by The Rendezvous: Inal hamda lillah... Please Help...I want someone to please help me find the answers to some of the following questions...Bro Nur please assist...one by one please..we need to come to the facts... 1.....Where were Shias when Prophet Mohamed(s.a.w)was there..Alive and kicking..I think he would categorically have answered some of their questions... 2.....are Shia Imaams more 'holier' that our prophet(s.a.w)..Why would they stay away from This world Like in 'Mahdis'..for so long that even our Prophet Mohamed couldn't? 3......Why are they refuting the Holy quraan..I think they didn't refute the Holy Quraan when The Holy prophet was there...Why now...? 4....Why has Shia..never spread more than IRAN and some parts of India..Sunnis have spread more than them by far..It has bypassed Indonesia..Malaysia and Philipines..Does this show the spread of Truth over false...?I am sure 'TRUTH' spread by far.. 5....What kind of books do they ascribe to if they don't accept The Holy Quraan..?Do they have a different Quraan...?why didn't they say so when The prophet Mohamed was there... 6....Why do they classify the Sahabas as..Good and adversaries..when Sahabas were one united group during prophet's time...?Why now? 7....Even if they are given the authority to Lead ISLAM...as they say they would have liked...would they still change the Holy Quraan and Hadeeth...I think they would have left it compact and same...And what about the prayers..why do they pray differently...?Why didn't they pray like so...when The prophet was there... 8....Why did the birth place of the Holy Prophet never had many Shias..I mean(MAKKAH)..It was infact supposed to be the 'Centre' of Shia if I am not wrong...Why IRAN...now?If they claim anything to the Ahlul..bait.. 10.....^^^^^My question above...did this have a relation with Christianity/Judaism which started in Jerusalem...and now controlled from The Vatican...(ROMAN EMPIRE)..Christians have no option but to accept orders from The Vatican..did we refuse orders from IRAN(PERSIAN EMPIRE) and continued with the Truth...? 11......was there some kind of political parties after The prophet's death...Which party was Shia..Did they lose the Elections... 12...Now what problems do they have with Sunnis..Why do they hate Sunnis..What brought about this disunity in ISLAM.... 13....Could this be a plan to 'finish' ISLAM which didn't work fine...? 14...Why are they coming back to the fold of ISLAM now after 1200 Years later...?if they didn't prove themselves wrong.. Cajeeeeeeeeeb...No wonder we are seeing an 'Influx of Shia follower'...coming back to the main Branch of islam(SUNNI)...Come to Dubai and arabia..(for those Shias who came into contact with 'Real ISLAM')..and see them IRANIANS and other Shias..denouncing their Poltical party(Shiasm)coming back to the fold of ISLAM..they do regret...walahil cadhiim.... If indeed Shias has the above AQEEDAH...as posted by Brother Nur...I think it is more inclined to CHRISTIANITY than ISLAM... Please our Shia mates help us answer the above questions and thereby also acknowledge if the 'SAID AQEEDAH' is related to SHIA...You will do us great service to know if the Length of the AQEEDAH co-posted by Plasma for Bro Nur is related in any way to SHIASM... Thanks all,

^^^^^Your sister had a baby this morning; but I haven't found out what it is yet so I don't know if your an aunt or an uncle. The baby looks just like your brother.... Thanks discreet....

Originally posted by Nur: Dear Sister OG Now that politics is out of the way, the question remains, where did greates Shia scholar Kuleiny who wrote the Kaafi got his teachings? More likely, the Sirdaab ( a hole in the ground where the little 4 year old imaam Saadiq al Mahdi fell in) and for the next 65 years, that Imaam was transmitting Hadeeths from that hole ( Al Ghayba al sughraa ) through two men, who are the only authorized transmitters of hadeeths from the absent Imaams Askari. The problem is not politics, we agree Ali should have been the imaam, even if you want to push for Abubakers place, that is negotiable, but to change the aqeedah,..the true ISLAM.. that is not right, my dear sister, so please read my post again preferably with a cool head and kindly tell me were I went wrong, you owe me an advice if I am wrong, أنا لست دكتاتور Nur Even If we would have made Sayidina Ali Radhiallahu Anhu(The First Calipha)..would Shias still change the Holy Quraan and Other Prophet's Sunnah...ISLAM was already a way of life..many people have already memorised the Holy Quraan as it was revealed by heart.How come you can changed some few few things from the Holy Quraan. Again Why would shia still disintegrate into more complicated classes like the Bohras and Ithna Ashariya...and whatever classes they have... Brother Nur, did u ever see what Bohras believe in..Or the way they pray to Allah..This people are against ISLAM and Ahlu Sunnah...you will associate them with the HINDUS..walahil cadhiim.. Brother Nur please give us all the differences between SUNNIS and SHIAS in a summary so that readers can know what SUNNIS believe in and what SHIAS believe in...Please include their mode of worship and other details that you deem a big difference...and thus remove doubts and stop associating SUNNIS and SHIAS... I didn't know if IMAAM ASKARI is still missing...Where did he go..Even Prophet Mohamed and Sayidina Ali died..Including all of ahlu bayt..Where did he vanish from..and why was he giving sermons from the 'Hole'..? Acudhu Billah...

Originally posted by The Rendezvous: quote:Originally posted by OG_Girl: لا لم أقصد هذا، بل قصدت الأقتناع. لكن لم أقتنع مع أسلوب أهل سنة.كما يسمون أنÙسهم ترى مسأله كلها سياسه أكثر مما هي دينيه TRANSLATED AND QUOTED AS: "No, my intention was not that way,My intention was to be an opening,and I won't ascribe to Ahlu Sunnah(SUNNIS ways of ISLAM).You will find them concentrating themselves to politics in favour of their deen..." am sorry if that made sense... Salam quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by OG_Girl: my religion was found by Mohammed I Think I have read all of the thread from scratch to the above thread and am please to know that there is a discussion going on between Sunnis/Shias... I would love to remind you that, Sunnis/Shias have so many things in Common and so many things dissimilar.. Further proof is required with the authentic narrations especially provided by the Shia group because they have never decided to answer any of my questions posted above...They are feeling Jittery about the questions when Infact if they would have answered some of them, We will today be happy to have found some of the answers on the dialogue between the said groups... To be noted, the Persian and Jews and mushrikin empires played a great role to destroy ISLAM in the wake of the Prophet's death, coz ISLAM was against their beliefs in IDOLS and SHIRK...They planned and crafted their games properly to antagonize ISLAM...They organized a 'propaganda' against ISLAM in the name of supporting Ahlu Bayt..While the prophet himself didn't give them(Ahlul Bayt).. 'MUCH HYPE'..infact the prophet saw said ...Whoever fears Allah much is the most favoured in the eyes of Allah.He didn't include Ahlul Bayt.. Now that they have created a propaganda..against ISLAM...they infact wanted to finish ISLAM...most people refused their version of interpretations..That is why you see they are 'RARE'..not many..only a group of Shias in IRAN/IRAQ..Not like OG GIRL saying we are ..school of thoughts..we are not..we are not a school of thought with shias..we are a school of thought inside Sunni..Like Imaam Malik/Shaafici and Hambal...Shia is totally different and against MUSLIMS coz of various reasons and interpretations...of ISLAM... ISLAM came to remove the idols..ISLAM came for brotherhood..ISLAM didn't come for the Prophet Mohamed saw alone...He was merely preaching what god wanted to be preached..Infact Abubakar Ra said...on the eve of The prophet's death.. MANKAANA YACBUDU MUHAMADAN..FAINA MUHAMADAN QAD MAATA..WAMAN KAANA YACBUDULLAHA..FAINAL LAAHA XAYUN LA YAMUUTU ABADAN.. meaning If someone was Worshipping in Mohamed(Prophet)..Then let him know that The prophet has just died..and anyone who worshipped Allah..let him know that Allah will be there forever... Many Shias have come to realize that they were infact put on a far propaganda until when you meet a shia..he Thinks he has been downplayed and separated from the mainstream ISLAM by unknown cohorts..He starts crying when you tell him the news..about SHIASIM was brought about..Now look at countries like the UAE where a large Shia population wanders..They realize the differences between them and Sunnis and actually accept they have at one given time been under the prophet and Caliphate and someone or a group produced this propaganda to interrupt ISLAM expansion.. Shia was infact introduced to muslims in the persian empire coz they were infact having a problem with ISLAM introduction into their territories..ISLAM had got much power within the persian empire to an extent all the subjects had been told to ascribe to 'Shiasim' or face the Death... Why did SHIASIM..didn't expand to various ISLAMIC countries..It is subjected to a narrow inclinement..This is coz of the TRUTH in the message..few believed what they said..and what early muslims were following..Go to INDONESIA...world's largest ISLAMIC population of around 200 million..there are no shia..and if there are ..then maybe some two to three expatriates working in the country who shifted from IRAN or IRAQ... Shia would have come to Somalia long ago..But no ones ascribes to Shiasim..In somalia and never will you hear any Shia in Somalia unless you raise the population of Shia there ...OG GIRL... You said you would have converted to ...Sunni..Meaning that you assume Sunnis are like Christians to you...When people who join ISLAM are taught the Jurisprudence of Sunni and Shia..They would prefer the Sunni..Coz one would be far much familiar with it's teaching that the Shia..s. ISLAM came to put much claim on the prophecy of all the prophets with a culmination of the prophecy on Mohamed saw...Shias are extending it to say...Someone ..like an Imaam will be missing from this world for close to 1,000 years now.Never has it happened from the Prophet Noah's time upto now...I think Some jews interpreted to them like the JESUS STORY...Our holy quraan tell us that, Prophet Jesus was raised and will come back in the day of judgement Insha-allah. Now that they value and almost equal Their 'imaams 'to lineages more or better than the prophecy itself..I think facts and real evidences are required to straighten things out. I posted some questions for my Shia..Peers to answer and only got answers from my Sunni group.. If Shia would have been so 'TRUTHFUL' or TRUSTWORTHY they would get more followers in the ISLAMIC world than the Sunnis..No wonder they are a bunch that causes Disunity in ISLAM more than even the christians and the jews..The propaganda backfired.. Imaam Bukhari left Central Asia, passed the IRANIAN peninsula when Shia was widespread there..and came all the way to Mecca and Medina.He had all the Hadeeth accumulation and has never got an inclination towards the Sunnis..He was merely compiling the 'Authentic Hadeeths..'In the ISLAMIC world. Notable among them are Hadeeth quoted from Ahlu Bayt..Sayidina Ali RA and AISHA bin Rasulillah..we almost have all authentic hadeeth from Ahlul bayt unless maybe corrupted by the Shias... Nevertheless please assume that on this ocassion, divisions in ISLAM will never do anything good to islam But will further complicate the stories..Right now as I am talking to you, Shias are separated by the BOHRAS...who 'nearly WORSHIP'...an Imaam..they ask him food, they ask him health and so on..and that is just What Prophet Mohamed saw came to destroy from the world. They have little faith in the religion..They assume their ..mode of faith...Is the best... I would appreciate if more concern is raised and mroe questions asked to alienate this kind of Misuse of ISLAMIC teaching... I would prefer a non-Sunni..A SHIA OR A CHRISTIAN/JEW to answer my questions posted above...Please write evrything in English so that people can have the information you are relaying ..I have just tried to translate the above information so that you stop confusing people this is Either ...THE HOLY QURAAN or a HADEETH...people may think the arabic you are writing is genuine..they think anything written in arabic is pure... Thank you... .................... am sorry I mistranslated..But you understood the points we had raised here for all and sundry...You didn't give people your translation on the issues involved and you expect them to translate for themselves meaning you may have a hidden agenda on it. Last but not least, Please arrange to answer my questions asked earlier on on Shiasm...I would be glad if you answer them one by one giving notable explanations. Otherwise It means you reputation on this subject has a backward trend... I am sorry to say all this.

Originally posted by OG_Girl: لا لم أقصد هذا، بل قصدت الأقتناع. لكن لم أقتنع مع أسلوب أهل سنة.كما يسمون أنÙسهم ترى مسأله كلها سياسه أكثر مما هي دينيه TRANSLATED AND QUOTED AS: "No, my intention was not that way,My intention was to be an opening,and I won't ascribe to Ahlu Sunnah(SUNNIS ways of ISLAM).You will find them concentrating themselves to politics in favour of their deen..." am sorry if that made sense... Salam quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by OG_Girl: my religion was found by Mohammed I Think I have read all of the thread from scratch to the above thread and am please to know that there is a discussion going on between Sunnis/Shias... I would love to remind you that, Sunnis/Shias have so many things in Common and so many things dissimilar.. Further proof is required with the authentic narrations especially provided by the Shia group because they have never decided to answer any of my questions posted above...They are feeling Jittery about the questions when Infact if they would have answered some of them, We will today be happy to have found some of the answers on the dialogue between the said groups... To be noted, the Persian and Jews and mushrikin empires played a great role to destroy ISLAM in the wake of the Prophet's death, coz ISLAM was against their beliefs in IDOLS and SHIRK...They planned and crafted their games properly to antagonize ISLAM...They organized a 'propaganda' against ISLAM in the name of supporting Ahlu Bayt..While the prophet himself didn't give them(Ahlul Bayt).. 'MUCH HYPE'..infact the prophet saw said ...Whoever fears Allah much is the most favoured in the eyes of Allah.He didn't include Ahlul Bayt.. Now that they have created a propaganda..against ISLAM...they infact wanted to finish ISLAM...most people refused their version of interpretations..That is why you see they are 'RARE'..not many..only a group of Shias in IRAN/IRAQ..Not like OG GIRL saying we are ..school of thoughts..we are not..we are not a school of thought with shias..we are a school of thought inside Sunni..Like Imaam Malik/Shaafici and Hambal...Shia is totally different and against MUSLIMS coz of various reasons and interpretations...of ISLAM... ISLAM came to remove the idols..ISLAM came for brotherhood..ISLAM didn't come for the Prophet Mohamed saw alone...He was merely preaching what god wanted to be preached..Infact Abubakar Ra said...on the eve of The prophet's death.. MANKAANA YACBUDU MUHAMADAN..FAINA MUHAMADAN QAD MAATA..WAMAN KAANA YACBUDULLAHA..FAINAL LAAHA XAYUN LA YAMUUTU ABADAN.. meaning If someone was Worshipping in Mohamed(Prophet)..Then let him know that The prophet has just died..and anyone who worshipped Allah..let him know that Allah will be there forever... Many Shias have come to realize that they were infact put on a far propaganda until when you meet a shia..he Thinks he has been downplayed and separated from the mainstream ISLAM by unknown cohorts..He starts crying when you tell him the news..about SHIASIM was brought about..Now look at countries like the UAE where a large Shia population wanders..They realize the differences between them and Sunnis and actually accept they have at one given time been under the prophet and Caliphate and someone or a group produced this propaganda to interrupt ISLAM expansion.. Shia was infact introduced to muslims in the persian empire coz they were infact having a problem with ISLAM introduction into their territories..ISLAM had got much power within the persian empire to an extent all the subjects had been told to ascribe to 'Shiasim' or face the Death... Why did SHIASIM..didn't expand to various ISLAMIC countries..It is subjected to a narrow inclinement..This is coz of the TRUTH in the message..few believed what they said..and what early muslims were following..Go to INDONESIA...world's largest ISLAMIC population of around 200 million..there are no shia..and if there are ..then maybe some two to three expatriates working in the country who shifted from IRAN or IRAQ... Shia would have come to Somalia long ago..But no ones ascribes to Shiasim..In somalia and never will you hear any Shia in Somalia unless you raise the population of Shia there ...OG GIRL... You said you would have converted to ...Sunni..Meaning that you assume Sunnis are like Christians to you...When people who join ISLAM are taught the Jurisprudence of Sunni and Shia..They would prefer the Sunni..Coz one would be far much familiar with it's teaching that the Shia..s. ISLAM came to put much claim on the prophecy of all the prophets with a culmination of the prophecy on Mohamed saw...Shias are extending it to say...Someone ..like an Imaam will be missing from this world for close to 1,000 years now.Never has it happened from the Prophet Noah's time upto now...I think Some jews interpreted to them like the JESUS STORY...Our holy quraan tell us that, Prophet Jesus was raised and will come back in the day of judgement Insha-allah. Now that they value and almost equal Their 'imaams 'to lineages more or better than the prophecy itself..I think facts and real evidences are required to straighten things out. I posted some questions for my Shia..Peers to answer and only got answers from my Sunni group.. If Shia would have been so 'TRUTHFUL' or TRUSTWORTHY they would get more followers in the ISLAMIC world than the Sunnis..No wonder they are a bunch that causes Disunity in ISLAM more than even the christians and the jews..The propaganda backfired.. Imaam Bukhari left Central Asia, passed the IRANIAN peninsula when Shia was widespread there..and came all the way to Mecca and Medina.He had all the Hadeeth accumulation and has never got an inclination towards the Sunnis..He was merely compiling the 'Authentic Hadeeths..'In the ISLAMIC world. Notable among them are Hadeeth quoted from Ahlu Bayt..Sayidina Ali RA and AISHA bin Rasulillah..we almost have all authentic hadeeth from Ahlul bayt unless maybe corrupted by the Shias... Nevertheless please assume that on this ocassion, divisions in ISLAM will never do anything good to islam But will further complicate the stories..Right now as I am talking to you, Shias are separated by the BOHRAS...who 'nearly WORSHIP'...an Imaam..they ask him food, they ask him health and so on..and that is just What Prophet Mohamed saw came to destroy from the world. They have little faith in the religion..They assume their ..mode of faith...Is the best... I would appreciate if more concern is raised and mroe questions asked to alienate this kind of Misuse of ISLAMIC teaching... I would prefer a non-Sunni..A SHIA OR A CHRISTIAN/JEW to answer my questions posted above...Please write evrything in English so that people can have the information you are relaying ..I have just tried to translate the above information so that you stop confusing people this is Either ...THE HOLY QURAAN or a HADEETH...people may think the arabic you are writing is genuine..they think anything written in arabic is pure... Thank you...

This were only Jokes..and nobody should take them serious....I am sorrt I did post this... Originally posted by The Rendezvous: A MAN ESCAPES FROM PRISON WHERE HE HAS BEEN FOR 15 YEARS. HE BREAKS INTO HOUSE TO LOOK FOR MONEY AND GUNS AND FINDS A YOUNG COUPLE IN BED. HE ORDERS THE GUY OUT OF BED AND TIES HIM TO A CHAIR. WHILE TYING THE GIRL TO THE BED HE GETS ON TOP OF HER, JUST KISSES HER NECK, THEN GETS UP AND GOES INTO THE BATHROOM. WHILE HE'S IN THERE, THE HUSBAND TELLS HIS WIFE: "LISTEN, THIS GUY'S AN ESCAPED CONVICT! LOOK AT HIS CLOTHES! HE PROBABLY SPENT LOTS OF TIME IN JAIL AND HASN'T SEEN A WOMAN IN YEARS. I SAW HOW HE KISSED YOUR NECK. IF HE WANTS SEX, DON'T RESIST, DON'T COMPLAIN, DO WHATEVER HE TELLS YOU. SATISFY HIM NO MATTER HOW MUCH HE NEEDS THE 'THING'. THIS GUY IS PROBABLY VERY DANGEROUS. IF HE GETS ANGRY, HE'LL KILL US. BE STRONG, HONEY. I LOVE YOU!!" TO WHICH THE WIFE RESPONDS: "HE WASN'T KISSING MY NECK. HE WAS WHISPERING IN MY EAR. HE TOLD ME HE IS A GAY, THOUGHT YOU WERE CUTE, AND ASKED IF WE HAD ANY VASELINE. I TOLD HIM IT WAS IN THE BATHROOM. BE STRONG HONEY. I LOVE YOU TOO!!" Hayeeeeeeeeeeey

A MAN ESCAPES FROM PRISON WHERE HE HAS BEEN FOR 15 YEARS. HE BREAKS INTO HOUSE TO LOOK FOR MONEY AND GUNS AND FINDS A YOUNG COUPLE IN BED. HE ORDERS THE GUY OUT OF BED AND TIES HIM TO A CHAIR. WHILE TYING THE GIRL TO THE BED HE GETS ON TOP OF HER, JUST KISSES HER NECK, THEN GETS UP AND GOES INTO THE BATHROOM. WHILE HE'S IN THERE, THE HUSBAND TELLS HIS WIFE: "LISTEN, THIS GUY'S AN ESCAPED CONVICT! LOOK AT HIS CLOTHES! HE PROBABLY SPENT LOTS OF TIME IN JAIL AND HASN'T SEEN A WOMAN IN YEARS. I SAW HOW HE KISSED YOUR NECK. IF HE WANTS SEX, DON'T RESIST, DON'T COMPLAIN, DO WHATEVER HE TELLS YOU. SATISFY HIM NO MATTER HOW MUCH HE NEEDS THE 'THING'. THIS GUY IS PROBABLY VERY DANGEROUS. IF HE GETS ANGRY, HE'LL KILL US. BE STRONG, HONEY. I LOVE YOU!!" TO WHICH THE WIFE RESPONDS: "HE WASN'T KISSING MY NECK. HE WAS WHISPERING IN MY EAR. HE TOLD ME HE IS A GAY, THOUGHT YOU WERE CUTE, AND ASKED IF WE HAD ANY VASELINE. I TOLD HIM IT WAS IN THE BATHROOM. BE STRONG HONEY. I LOVE YOU TOO!!" Hayeeeeeeeeeeey

^ ^ I am in marketing and you have exactly expressed them fairly...cajeeeeeeeeeeeeb

^^I am and alhamdulillah something will be on this year..Can someone please compile the final list here to measure the impact of the thread.. Real men are 'rare'..

Originally posted by The Rendezvous: Inal hamda lillah... Please Help...I want someone to please help me find the answers to some of the following questions...Bro Nur please assist...one by one please..we need to come to the facts... 1.....Where were Shias when Prophet Mohamed(s.a.w)was there..Alive and kicking..I think he would categorically have answered some of their questions... 2.....are Shia Imaams more 'holier' that our prophet(s.a.w)..Why would they stay away from This world Like in 'Mahdis'..for so long that even our Prophet Mohamed couldn't? 3......Why are they refuting the Holy quraan..I think they didn't refute the Holy Quraan when The Holy prophet was there...Why now...? 4....Why has Shia..never spread more than IRAN and some parts of India..Sunnis have spread more than them by far..It has bypassed Indonesia..Malaysia and Philipines..Does this show the spread of Truth over false...?I am sure 'TRUTH' spread by far.. 5....What kind of books do they ascribe to if they don't accept The Holy Quraan..?Do they have a different Quraan...?why didn't they say so when The prophet Mohamed was there... 6....Why do they classify the Sahabas as..Good and adversaries..when Sahabas were one united group during prophet's time...?Why now? 7....Even if they are given the authority to Lead ISLAM...as they say they would have liked...would they still change the Holy Quraan and Hadeeth...I think they would have left it compact and same...And what about the prayers..why do they pray differently...?Why didn't they pray like so...when The prophet was there... 8....Why did the birth place of the Holy Prophet never had many Shias..I mean(MAKKAH)..It was infact supposed to be the 'Centre' of Shia if I am not wrong...Why IRAN...now?If they claim anything to the Ahlul..bait.. 10.....^^^^^My question above...did this have a relation with Christianity/Judaism which started in Jerusalem...and now controlled from The Vatican...(ROMAN EMPIRE)..Christians have no option but to accept orders from The Vatican..did we refuse orders from IRAN(PERSIAN EMPIRE) and continued with the Truth...? 11......was there some kind of political parties after The prophet's death...Which party was Shia..Did they lose the Elections... 12...Now what problems do they have with Sunnis..Why do they hate Sunnis..What brought about this disunity in ISLAM.... 13....Could this be a plan to 'finish' ISLAM which didn't work fine...? 14...Why are they coming back to the fold of ISLAM now after 1200 Years later...?if they didn't prove themselves wrong.. Cajeeeeeeeeeb...No wonder we are seeing an 'Influx of Shia follower'...coming back to the main Branch of islam(SUNNI)...Come to Dubai and arabia..(for those Shias who came into contact with 'Real ISLAM')..and see them IRANIANS and other Shias..denouncing their Poltical party(Shiasm)coming back to the fold of ISLAM..they do regret...walahil cadhiim.... I am waiting...Brother Nur take over... Why are people avoiding my questions..This is not empty 'Space'..I need someone to help resolve the 'stalemate..'..By the way, is there anyone who needs 'Disunity in ISLAM'...Count Rendezvous Out..

Inal hamda lillah... Please Help...I want someone to please help me find the answers to some of the following questions...Bro Nur please assist...one by one please..we need to come to the facts... 1.....Where were Shias when Prophet Mohamed(s.a.w)was there..Alive and kicking..I think he would categorically have answered some of their questions... 2.....are Shia Imaams more 'holier' that our prophet(s.a.w)..Why would they stay away from This world Like in 'Mahdis'..for so long that even our Prophet Mohamed couldn't? 3......Why are they refuting the Holy quraan..I think they didn't refute the Holy Quraan when The Holy prophet was there...Why now...? 4....Why has Shia..never spread more than IRAN and some parts of India..Sunnis have spread more than them by far..It has bypassed Indonesia..Malaysia and Philipines..Does this show the spread of Truth over false...?I am sure 'TRUTH' spread by far.. 5....What kind of books do they ascribe to if they don't accept The Holy Quraan..?Do they have a different Quraan...?why didn't they say so when The prophet Mohamed was there... 6....Why do they classify the Sahabas as..Good and adversaries..when Sahabas were one united group during prophet's time...?Why now? 7....Even if they are given the authority to Lead ISLAM...as they say they would have liked...would they still change the Holy Quraan and Hadeeth...I think they would have left it compact and same...And what about the prayers..why do they pray differently...?Why didn't they pray like so...when The prophet was there... 8....Why did the birth place of the Holy Prophet never had many Shias..I mean(MAKKAH)..It was infact supposed to be the 'Centre' of Shia if I am not wrong...Why IRAN...now?If they claim anything to the Ahlul..bait.. 10.....^^^^^My question above...did this have a relation with Christianity/Judaism which started in Jerusalem...and now controlled from The Vatican...(ROMAN EMPIRE)..Christians have no option but to accept orders from The Vatican..did we refuse orders from IRAN(PERSIAN EMPIRE) and continued with the Truth...? 11......was there some kind of political parties after The prophet's death...Which party was Shia..Did they lose the Elections... 12...Now what problems do they have with Sunnis..Why do they hate Sunnis..What brought about this disunity in ISLAM.... 13....Could this be a plan to 'finish' ISLAM which didn't work fine...? 14...Why are they coming back to the fold of ISLAM now after 1200 Years later...?if they didn't prove themselves wrong.. Cajeeeeeeeeeb...No wonder we are seeing an 'Influx of Shia follower'...coming back to the main Branch of islam(SUNNI)...Come to Dubai and arabia..(for those Shias who came into contact with 'Real ISLAM')..and see them IRANIANS and other Shias..denouncing their Political party(Shiasm)coming back to the fold of ISLAM..they do regret...walahil cadhiim.... I am waiting...Brother Nur take over...

Inal hamda lillah... Please Help...I want someone to please help me find the answers to some of the following questions...Bro Nur please assist...one by one please..we need to come to the facts... 1.....Where were Shias when Prophet Mohamed(s.a.w)was there..Alive and kicking..I think he would categorically have answered some of their questions... 2.....are Shia Imaams more 'holier' that our prophet(s.a.w)..Why would they stay away from This world Like in 'Mahdis'..for so long that even our Prophet Mohamed couldn't? 3......Why are they refuting the Holy quraan..I think they didn't refute the Holy Quraan when The Holy prophet was there...Why now...? 4....Why has Shia..never spread more than IRAN and some parts of India..Sunnis have spread more than them by far..It has bypassed Indonesia..Malaysia and Philipines..Does this show the spread of Truth over false...?I am sure 'TRUTH' spread by far.. 5....What kind of books do they ascribe to if they don't accept The Holy Quraan..?Do they have a different Quraan...?why didn't they say so when The prophet Mohamed was there... 6....Why do they classify the Sahabas as..Good and adversaries..when Sahabas were one united group during prophet's time...?Why now? 7....Even if they are given the authority to Lead ISLAM...as they say they would have liked...would they still change the Holy Quraan and Hadeeth...I think they would have left it compact and same...And what about the prayers..why do they pray differently...?Why didn't they pray like so...when The prophet was there... 8....Why did the birth place of the Holy Prophet never had many Shias..I mean(MAKKAH)..It was infact supposed to be the 'Centre' of Shia if I am not wrong...Why IRAN...now?If they claim anything to the Ahlul..bait.. 10.....^^^^^My question above...did this have a relation with Christianity/Judaism which started in Jerusalem...and now controlled from The Vatican...(ROMAN EMPIRE)..Christians have no option but to accept orders from The Vatican..did we refuse orders from IRAN(PERSIAN EMPIRE) and continued with the Truth...? 11......was there some kind of political parties after The prophet's death...Which party was Shia..Did they lose the Elections... 12...Now what problems do they have with Sunnis..Why do they hate Sunnis..What brought about this disunity in ISLAM.... 13....Could this be a plan to 'finish' ISLAM which didn't work fine...? 14...Why are they coming back to the fold of ISLAM now after 1200 Years later...?if they didn't prove themselves wrong.. Cajeeeeeeeeeb...No wonder we are seeing an 'Influx of Shia follower'...coming back to the main Branch of islam(SUNNI)...Come to Dubai and arabia..(for those Shias who came into contact with 'Real ISLAM')..and see them IRANIANS and other Shias..denouncing their Poltical party(Shiasm)coming back to the fold of ISLAM..they do regret...walahil cadhiim.... I am waiting...Brother Nur take over...

Jaz......Are muslims being treated like that also in Other western countries..Notable UK and Other european countries..? What is the future of muslim communities living in those areas.Am sure they find it tough..and especially our women..and kids..

We got the following details SECURELY from research papers involving how muslims are treated and Harassed in The USA.... 1.1 Classified U.S. immigration records show Anwar Nasser Aulaqi, the 9/11 imam, was detained about a year after the attacks -- October 10, 2002 -- upon reentering the U.S. from Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. He shows up as a match on the terrorist watchlist and is referred to secondary inspection. 1.2 A restricted federal database called TECS II (TECS stands for Treasury Enforcement Communications System) reveals that the subject of a federal investigation by the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Houston "sent money to Aulaqi." The imam, who listed Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, Virginia, as his address, is a "silent hit" in connection with the case, records show. The probe is still active, according to Pamela L. Rhames, an FBI agent detailed over to Customs after 9/11 who now works in the Houston office of the JTTF. 1.3 TECS II reveals Aulaqi also has been the target of a terrorism-financing investigation led by Customs special agent David C. Kane out of Washington. "Subject is former Imam of Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, Virginia," the classified record states. 1.4 A TECS II incident log reveals that Aulaqi was released from custody at JFK International Airport in New York after agents there got word from Washington that an arrest warrant for him "had been pulled back" on October 9, 2002 -- the day before he arrived. He and his family were ordered released. He later fled the country on a Saudi jet. Both Congress and the 9/11 Commission have criticized law enforcement for not thoroughly investigating Aulaqi's ties to the 9/11 hijackers and other terrorists. The FBI is now trying to locate Aulaqi overseas. The independent 9/11 panel and joint congressional inquiry apparently were not aware of the sensitive incident at JFK. 1.5 Page two of the classified incident log, disclosed here for the first time, says Aulaqi was "escorted to Saudi rep in order to continue with flight to Wash. D.C." 1.6 U.S. immigration records list Aulaqi's place of birth as Aden, Yemen. The imam, however, claims he was born in New Mexico. Records also show he first entered the U.S. June 5, 1990, on a J-1 visa. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2.1 According to this sensitive intelligence document, the Department of Homeland Security is worried about Pakistani-Americans training at terrorist camps in Pakistan and then reentering the U.S. to carry out attacks here. News of active terror camps in Pakistan is alarming by itself, because Washington has told the American people that Islamabad has cracked down on terrorist activity in its country, where much of the 9/11 plot was hatched.) The highly unusual action bulletin advises Customs and Border Protection officers to examine Pakistani passengers for "rope burns," "unusual bruises," scarring from firearms discharge and other signs of injury suffered while training at terror camps. I have redacted a part of one particularly sensitive recommended action to protect future operations against suspicious Pakistani travelers. 2.2 Parts of another highly sensitive action listed on page two of the DHS alert -- "Intelligence Driven Special Operation" (Operation 2004-022) -- have also been redacted to protect future operations. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3.1 Department of Homeland Security advisory, marked For Official Use Only, warns law enforcement to beef up security based on "increasingly sophisticated" al-Qaida bombings overseas and "information suggesting al-Qaida continues to plan attacks against U.S. targets." 3.2 The five-page DHS advisory warns of new truck-bombing tactics such as using forward ramming cars to "gain access to target" and using "innocous-looking vehicles" (sic) such as food-catering trucks to fool gate security guards. 3.3 I redacted portions of the more sensitive protective measures that building security guards are advised to undertake to thwart truck bombers. 3.4 Some portions redacted related to protective measures against terrorists rigging planes and air cargo with explosives. (Air cargo shipped in the belly of passenger jetliners is still not scanned for bombs.) Same DHS memo also warns law enforcement personnel that male suicide bombers may "dress as females in order to discourage scrutiny." 3.5 Final page of sensitive DHS memo warns that al-Qaida has designed a "crude chemical dispersal device" that can spread deadly cyanide gas and asphyxiate victims in crowded indoor facilities such as subways. "The device could be placed near air intakes or ventilation systems," document says. (On this same page, I redacted a very specific protective measure recommended for port and harbor security.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4.1 Restricted document distributed by Department of Homeland Security that shows a map of U.S. detailing "Significant Terrorist Incident Locations During Two Weeks in 2002." The document notes, "These incidents demonstrate the need for continued viligance on a daily basis." Many of the perpetrators are identified as Muslims or individuals from Middle Eastern countries. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5.1 Fairfax County, Virginia, property records reveal Muslim activist Jamalal-Barzinji authorized the development of the Dar al-Hijrah mosque, where some of the 9/11 hijackers received aid and comfort. The U.S. government has accused Barzinji of being "closely associated" with the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Hamas and other terrorist organizations. Records also show the Saudi-affiliated North American Islamic Trust holds the deed to the Wahhabi mosque. Barzinji is listed as a NAIT trustee on the document. 5.2 Dar al-Hijrah has been a major beneficiary of funding from the U.S. branch of the Saudi-based International Islamic Relief Organization (IIRO), one of Osama bin Laden's favorite charities. This is a statement of grants the group attached to its 1998 tax form filed with the IRS. The group was raided by federal agents after 9/11. 5.3 According to the same tax document, IIRO gave $13,000 in emergency relief aid to Dar al-Hijrah that year. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6.1 First letter from FBI whistleblower Sibel Dinez Edmonds to former Senate Judiciary Chairman Sen. Patrick Leahy warning of security breaches and Muslim moles in the foreign language department of the FBI's Washington field office. 6.2 Termination notice the FBI sent Edmonds after she blew the whistle on fellow disloyal translators and a supervisor. It states she was fired "completely for the Government's convenience." The inspector general later determined that Edmonds' shocking allegations were supported by the facts and were a factor in her dismissal, suggesting FBI headquarters has been trying to cover-up another embarrassing espionage scandal. 6.3 Second page of April 2, 2002, termination notice. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7.1 IRS 990 form filed by the Washington office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a powerful Muslim group now under federal investigation for ties to terrorism. At least three of its officials have been indicted on terrorism-related charges. 7.2 Statement attached to 1999 tax filing by CAIR disclosing $2.1 million loan from the Bank of Kuwait, which until recently owned CAIR's national headquarters building under a lease-to-purchase contract. 7.3 CAIR claims it receives no foreign support, but this land record contradicts that claim. In fact, the United Arab Emirates owns its property. This is the first page of the document filed with the District of Columbia as a Deed of Trust, or mortgage agreement, between CAIR and the Al Maktoum Foundation of Dubai, UAE -- which put up nearly $1 million for CAIR's headquarters. CAIR Chairman Omar Ahmad's signature appears on page four of document. UAE was one of only three countries to formally recognize the Taliban, which sheltered al-Qaida. Funding for the 9/11 hijackings went through a bank in Dubai. And two of the hijackers were Emirates. The Dubai-based Al Maktoum Foundation, moreover, donates money to families of Palestinian suicide bombers. This is who backs CAIR, in addition to Saudi-based interests. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8.1a Canceled checks for major donations to GOP powerbroker Grover Norquist's nonprofit Islamic Institute from now-convicted terrorist Abdurahman Alamoudi, who provided seed money for the controversial Washington think tank, which has a stated goal of "promoting the appointments of Muslims to positions of influence." 8.1b Check for donation to Norquist's Islamic Institute from the Safa Trust, and alleged terror-underwriter based just outside Washington. It is part of the notorious Safa group, which investigators believe runs a terror-support group using Muslim charities and think tanks as cover. 8.1c Checks to the Islamic Institute from Saudi interests. 8.1d Checks to Islamic Institute from the government of Qatar. 8.1e Checks to Islamic Institute from government of Kuwait. 8.2a Norquist's Islamic Institute was a sponsor of the 2000 anti-Israel rally at the White House in which Muslim leaders such as Alamoudi shouted their support for terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah. This press release called a "Friday Brief" -- which has been removed from the institute's website -- shows that it strongly advised Muslim members to attend the event. It directs questions to the institute and also to Alamoudi's American Muslim Council, which has staffed much of the institute. 8.2b Second page of Friday Brief rallying Muslims to bash Israel. Note the Islamic Institute listed among the sponsors. 8.3a White House-generated list of Muslim- and Arab-American leaders and activists -- along with their birthdates and Social Security numbers (which I've redacted to protect their privacy) -- used by Secret Service for security screening. The 83 activists on the list, generated in April 2001, were invited to the White House -- even though some of them, such as Jamal Barzinji, had come under federal scrutiny in counterterrorism investigations. Topping the list is GOP strategist and Islamic Institute founder Grover Norquist, who is engaged to a Middle Eastern woman. 8.3b White House guest Taha al-Alwani of the Graduate School of Islamic and Social Sciences (GSISS) is now an unindicted co-conspirator in the Sami al-Arian terrorism case. GSISS, part of the Safa group, was raided by federal authorities after 9/11. Also on the White House guest list: Susan Douglass, listed as a "Muslim Educator." Turns out she's not just any educator. She and her husband have been on the Saudi payroll for years teaching at a notorious Saudi academy in Virginia that has graduated terrorist suspects including Abu Ali, accused of plotting to assassinate President Bush. Remarkably, textbook publishers and school districts across the country hire Douglass to help them teach kids in public schools about Islam. Not surprisingly, she sugarcoats over all its warts, including violent jihad. 8.3c A Muslim leader from Dar al-Hijrah, the Washington-area mosque that gave aid and comfort to the hijackers, is also on the invite list. 8.3d Nos. 75 through 83 are listed on a page that is hard to read. It includes David Hossein Safavian, a former Alamoudi lobbyist and Islamic Institute director who landed a high-ranking position in the White House. 8.4a Senate lobbying registration form filed by Janus-Merritt Strategies in late 2000 lists Adburahman Alamoudi as a "client." Norquist was a founding partner of Janus-Merritt (now Williams Mullen). 8.4b Page two of the three-page disclosure clearly lists David Hossein Safavian as the lobbyist for Alamoudi. Yet Safavian, now a high-level White House official, did not list Alamoudi as a client in disclosure statements to the Senate during his recent confirmation. Safavian, a Muslim lawyer, also lobbied Congress to deny law enforcement key tools to crack down on terrorists, from the use of undisclosed evidence to deport Middle Eastern immigrants suspected of terrorist activities to airport profiling of suspicious Arab and Muslim passengers. 8.5 Islamic Institute co-founder Khaled Saffuri is listed in this 1996 Senate lobbying registration form as the director of governmental affairs for the American Muslim Council. His assistant is listed as one Randall Royer -- a Muslim convert who last year was convicted of helping lead the Virginia jihad network. 8.6 Memo from former press secretary Phaedra Baird to U.S. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher urging him to sever his close ties with Khaled Saffuri, Alamoudi's former deputy and now head of the Islamic Institute. "In fact, Khalid[sic] went on to tell me he even sponsors an orphaned child of a [Palestinian] suicide bomber," Baird wrote in the Dec. 7, 2001, memo. "He said he sees nothing wrong with his support of these people." 8.7 Republican Muslim activist and lawyer Kamal Nawash -- a friend of Grover -- has told the media he has never represented convicted terrorist Abdurahman M. Alamoudi. But this Fairfax County Circuit Court document says otherwise. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9.1 Textbook publisher's statement that confirms that the Muslim activist group Council of Islamic Education (CIE) revised its interactive educational module on Islam used in public schools in several states, including California. The role-playing module instructs public school children to "become Muslims" for three weeks, reciting Muslim prayers and Quranic verses without any critical analysis of Islam. Susan Douglass -- the devout Sunni Muslim, Saudi schoolteacher and special White House guest -- is CIE's top "scholar" and the exclusive consultant to the nation's largest history textbook publishers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10.1 Recent Department of Homeland Security memo to border authorities listing 35 countries designated "special-interest countries," or countries requiring increased security scrutiny because of their terror risk. Nearly all of them have predominantly Muslim populations. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11.1 This high-level Department of Homeland Security memorandum, marked LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE, orders U.S. border authorities to stop fingerprinting as many foreign visitors, including those from Muslim nations, as needed to reduce "delays and wait times" caused by the new US-VISIT security program -- even under code-red terror conditions, if Washington authorizes it! Airport inspectors complain the so-called "mitigation strategy" appeases the travel industry at the expense of homeland security. 11.2 Foreign visitors under 14 are exempt from US-VISIT. 11.3 Washington is monitoring delays at airport terminals and other federal inspection areas. Inspectors have one hour to clear all international flights, no matter how large. And the clock starts ticking when the plane is blocked at the gate, before passengers even deplane. Yet Congress and the president supposedly did away with such passenger-processing deadlines under the USA Patriot Act to make sure antiterrorist screening is not rushed. The 19 hijackers entered the U.S. with visas, some illegally. 11.4 "It is imperative that delays and wait times be kept to a minimum," says page 4 of the 6-page DHS memo. It sets a "1-hour" deadline. 11.5 DHS exempts teens, elderly, families, foreign pilots and religious workers, among others, from US-VISIT screening to reduce flight delays if necessary. Foreign aircrew are exempt even though a number of Saudi and other foreign Muslim airline pilots have been linked to terrorism. At the same time, religious workers, including Muslim clerics, have been ranked among the "lowest threat" among the 10 visa classifications. (I have redacted the specific rankings, from highest threat to lowest, for obvious reasons.) Yet hundreds of Muslim clerics have been linked to terrorism (many of whom still preach in the U.S.). 11.6 Foreign workers handling cargo at U.S. port facilities are not fingerprinted and processed under US-VISIT, as of the writing of the memo. "Cargo crew processing cannot be initiated until future implementation of remote US-VISIT processing is developed," says the memo, written Jan. 2, 2004, by Jason P. Ahern, assistant commissioner of field operations for the U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Department of Homeland Security. TRUTH HURTS...and USA knows...

We got the following details SECURELY from research papers involving how muslims are treated and Harassed in The USA.... 1.1 Classified U.S. immigration records show Anwar Nasser Aulaqi, the 9/11 imam, was detained about a year after the attacks -- October 10, 2002 -- upon reentering the U.S. from Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. He shows up as a match on the terrorist watchlist and is referred to secondary inspection. 1.2 A restricted federal database called TECS II (TECS stands for Treasury Enforcement Communications System) reveals that the subject of a federal investigation by the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Houston "sent money to Aulaqi." The imam, who listed Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, Virginia, as his address, is a "silent hit" in connection with the case, records show. The probe is still active, according to Pamela L. Rhames, an FBI agent detailed over to Customs after 9/11 who now works in the Houston office of the JTTF. 1.3 TECS II reveals Aulaqi also has been the target of a terrorism-financing investigation led by Customs special agent David C. Kane out of Washington. "Subject is former Imam of Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, Virginia," the classified record states. 1.4 A TECS II incident log reveals that Aulaqi was released from custody at JFK International Airport in New York after agents there got word from Washington that an arrest warrant for him "had been pulled back" on October 9, 2002 -- the day before he arrived. He and his family were ordered released. He later fled the country on a Saudi jet. Both Congress and the 9/11 Commission have criticized law enforcement for not thoroughly investigating Aulaqi's ties to the 9/11 hijackers and other terrorists. The FBI is now trying to locate Aulaqi overseas. The independent 9/11 panel and joint congressional inquiry apparently were not aware of the sensitive incident at JFK. 1.5 Page two of the classified incident log, disclosed here for the first time, says Aulaqi was "escorted to Saudi rep in order to continue with flight to Wash. D.C." 1.6 U.S. immigration records list Aulaqi's place of birth as Aden, Yemen. The imam, however, claims he was born in New Mexico. Records also show he first entered the U.S. June 5, 1990, on a J-1 visa. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2.1 According to this sensitive intelligence document, the Department of Homeland Security is worried about Pakistani-Americans training at terrorist camps in Pakistan and then reentering the U.S. to carry out attacks here. News of active terror camps in Pakistan is alarming by itself, because Washington has told the American people that Islamabad has cracked down on terrorist activity in its country, where much of the 9/11 plot was hatched.) The highly unusual action bulletin advises Customs and Border Protection officers to examine Pakistani passengers for "rope burns," "unusual bruises," scarring from firearms discharge and other signs of injury suffered while training at terror camps. I have redacted a part of one particularly sensitive recommended action to protect future operations against suspicious Pakistani travelers. 2.2 Parts of another highly sensitive action listed on page two of the DHS alert -- "Intelligence Driven Special Operation" (Operation 2004-022) -- have also been redacted to protect future operations. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3.1 Department of Homeland Security advisory, marked For Official Use Only, warns law enforcement to beef up security based on "increasingly sophisticated" al-Qaida bombings overseas and "information suggesting al-Qaida continues to plan attacks against U.S. targets." 3.2 The five-page DHS advisory warns of new truck-bombing tactics such as using forward ramming cars to "gain access to target" and using "innocous-looking vehicles" (sic) such as food-catering trucks to fool gate security guards. 3.3 I redacted portions of the more sensitive protective measures that building security guards are advised to undertake to thwart truck bombers. 3.4 Some portions redacted related to protective measures against terrorists rigging planes and air cargo with explosives. (Air cargo shipped in the belly of passenger jetliners is still not scanned for bombs.) Same DHS memo also warns law enforcement personnel that male suicide bombers may "dress as females in order to discourage scrutiny." 3.5 Final page of sensitive DHS memo warns that al-Qaida has designed a "crude chemical dispersal device" that can spread deadly cyanide gas and asphyxiate victims in crowded indoor facilities such as subways. "The device could be placed near air intakes or ventilation systems," document says. (On this same page, I redacted a very specific protective measure recommended for port and harbor security.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4.1 Restricted document distributed by Department of Homeland Security that shows a map of U.S. detailing "Significant Terrorist Incident Locations During Two Weeks in 2002." The document notes, "These incidents demonstrate the need for continued viligance on a daily basis." Many of the perpetrators are identified as Muslims or individuals from Middle Eastern countries. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5.1 Fairfax County, Virginia, property records reveal Muslim activist Jamalal-Barzinji authorized the development of the Dar al-Hijrah mosque, where some of the 9/11 hijackers received aid and comfort. The U.S. government has accused Barzinji of being "closely associated" with the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Hamas and other terrorist organizations. Records also show the Saudi-affiliated North American Islamic Trust holds the deed to the Wahhabi mosque. Barzinji is listed as a NAIT trustee on the document. 5.2 Dar al-Hijrah has been a major beneficiary of funding from the U.S. branch of the Saudi-based International Islamic Relief Organization (IIRO), one of Osama bin Laden's favorite charities. This is a statement of grants the group attached to its 1998 tax form filed with the IRS. The group was raided by federal agents after 9/11. 5.3 According to the same tax document, IIRO gave $13,000 in emergency relief aid to Dar al-Hijrah that year. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6.1 First letter from FBI whistleblower Sibel Dinez Edmonds to former Senate Judiciary Chairman Sen. Patrick Leahy warning of security breaches and Muslim moles in the foreign language department of the FBI's Washington field office. 6.2 Termination notice the FBI sent Edmonds after she blew the whistle on fellow disloyal translators and a supervisor. It states she was fired "completely for the Government's convenience." The inspector general later determined that Edmonds' shocking allegations were supported by the facts and were a factor in her dismissal, suggesting FBI headquarters has been trying to cover-up another embarrassing espionage scandal. 6.3 Second page of April 2, 2002, termination notice. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7.1 IRS 990 form filed by the Washington office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a powerful Muslim group now under federal investigation for ties to terrorism. At least three of its officials have been indicted on terrorism-related charges. 7.2 Statement attached to 1999 tax filing by CAIR disclosing $2.1 million loan from the Bank of Kuwait, which until recently owned CAIR's national headquarters building under a lease-to-purchase contract. 7.3 CAIR claims it receives no foreign support, but this land record contradicts that claim. In fact, the United Arab Emirates owns its property. This is the first page of the document filed with the District of Columbia as a Deed of Trust, or mortgage agreement, between CAIR and the Al Maktoum Foundation of Dubai, UAE -- which put up nearly $1 million for CAIR's headquarters. CAIR Chairman Omar Ahmad's signature appears on page four of document. UAE was one of only three countries to formally recognize the Taliban, which sheltered al-Qaida. Funding for the 9/11 hijackings went through a bank in Dubai. And two of the hijackers were Emirates. The Dubai-based Al Maktoum Foundation, moreover, donates money to families of Palestinian suicide bombers. This is who backs CAIR, in addition to Saudi-based interests. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8.1a Canceled checks for major donations to GOP powerbroker Grover Norquist's nonprofit Islamic Institute from now-convicted terrorist Abdurahman Alamoudi, who provided seed money for the controversial Washington think tank, which has a stated goal of "promoting the appointments of Muslims to positions of influence." 8.1b Check for donation to Norquist's Islamic Institute from the Safa Trust, and alleged terror-underwriter based just outside Washington. It is part of the notorious Safa group, which investigators believe runs a terror-support group using Muslim charities and think tanks as cover. 8.1c Checks to the Islamic Institute from Saudi interests. 8.1d Checks to Islamic Institute from the government of Qatar. 8.1e Checks to Islamic Institute from government of Kuwait. 8.2a Norquist's Islamic Institute was a sponsor of the 2000 anti-Israel rally at the White House in which Muslim leaders such as Alamoudi shouted their support for terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah. This press release called a "Friday Brief" -- which has been removed from the institute's website -- shows that it strongly advised Muslim members to attend the event. It directs questions to the institute and also to Alamoudi's American Muslim Council, which has staffed much of the institute. 8.2b Second page of Friday Brief rallying Muslims to bash Israel. Note the Islamic Institute listed among the sponsors. 8.3a White House-generated list of Muslim- and Arab-American leaders and activists -- along with their birthdates and Social Security numbers (which I've redacted to protect their privacy) -- used by Secret Service for security screening. The 83 activists on the list, generated in April 2001, were invited to the White House -- even though some of them, such as Jamal Barzinji, had come under federal scrutiny in counterterrorism investigations. Topping the list is GOP strategist and Islamic Institute founder Grover Norquist, who is engaged to a Middle Eastern woman. 8.3b White House guest Taha al-Alwani of the Graduate School of Islamic and Social Sciences (GSISS) is now an unindicted co-conspirator in the Sami al-Arian terrorism case. GSISS, part of the Safa group, was raided by federal authorities after 9/11. Also on the White House guest list: Susan Douglass, listed as a "Muslim Educator." Turns out she's not just any educator. She and her husband have been on the Saudi payroll for years teaching at a notorious Saudi academy in Virginia that has graduated terrorist suspects including Abu Ali, accused of plotting to assassinate President Bush. Remarkably, textbook publishers and school districts across the country hire Douglass to help them teach kids in public schools about Islam. Not surprisingly, she sugarcoats over all its warts, including violent jihad. 8.3c A Muslim leader from Dar al-Hijrah, the Washington-area mosque that gave aid and comfort to the hijackers, is also on the invite list. 8.3d Nos. 75 through 83 are listed on a page that is hard to read. It includes David Hossein Safavian, a former Alamoudi lobbyist and Islamic Institute director who landed a high-ranking position in the White House. 8.4a Senate lobbying registration form filed by Janus-Merritt Strategies in late 2000 lists Adburahman Alamoudi as a "client." Norquist was a founding partner of Janus-Merritt (now Williams Mullen). 8.4b Page two of the three-page disclosure clearly lists David Hossein Safavian as the lobbyist for Alamoudi. Yet Safavian, now a high-level White House official, did not list Alamoudi as a client in disclosure statements to the Senate during his recent confirmation. Safavian, a Muslim lawyer, also lobbied Congress to deny law enforcement key tools to crack down on terrorists, from the use of undisclosed evidence to deport Middle Eastern immigrants suspected of terrorist activities to airport profiling of suspicious Arab and Muslim passengers. 8.5 Islamic Institute co-founder Khaled Saffuri is listed in this 1996 Senate lobbying registration form as the director of governmental affairs for the American Muslim Council. His assistant is listed as one Randall Royer -- a Muslim convert who last year was convicted of helping lead the Virginia jihad network. 8.6 Memo from former press secretary Phaedra Baird to U.S. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher urging him to sever his close ties with Khaled Saffuri, Alamoudi's former deputy and now head of the Islamic Institute. "In fact, Khalid[sic] went on to tell me he even sponsors an orphaned child of a [Palestinian] suicide bomber," Baird wrote in the Dec. 7, 2001, memo. "He said he sees nothing wrong with his support of these people." 8.7 Republican Muslim activist and lawyer Kamal Nawash -- a friend of Grover -- has told the media he has never represented convicted terrorist Abdurahman M. Alamoudi. But this Fairfax County Circuit Court document says otherwise. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9.1 Textbook publisher's statement that confirms that the Muslim activist group Council of Islamic Education (CIE) revised its interactive educational module on Islam used in public schools in several states, including California. The role-playing module instructs public school children to "become Muslims" for three weeks, reciting Muslim prayers and Quranic verses without any critical analysis of Islam. Susan Douglass -- the devout Sunni Muslim, Saudi schoolteacher and special White House guest -- is CIE's top "scholar" and the exclusive consultant to the nation's largest history textbook publishers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10.1 Recent Department of Homeland Security memo to border authorities listing 35 countries designated "special-interest countries," or countries requiring increased security scrutiny because of their terror risk. Nearly all of them have predominantly Muslim populations. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11.1 This high-level Department of Homeland Security memorandum, marked LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE, orders U.S. border authorities to stop fingerprinting as many foreign visitors, including those from Muslim nations, as needed to reduce "delays and wait times" caused by the new US-VISIT security program -- even under code-red terror conditions, if Washington authorizes it! Airport inspectors complain the so-called "mitigation strategy" appeases the travel industry at the expense of homeland security. 11.2 Foreign visitors under 14 are exempt from US-VISIT. 11.3 Washington is monitoring delays at airport terminals and other federal inspection areas. Inspectors have one hour to clear all international flights, no matter how large. And the clock starts ticking when the plane is blocked at the gate, before passengers even deplane. Yet Congress and the president supposedly did away with such passenger-processing deadlines under the USA Patriot Act to make sure antiterrorist screening is not rushed. The 19 hijackers entered the U.S. with visas, some illegally. 11.4 "It is imperative that delays and wait times be kept to a minimum," says page 4 of the 6-page DHS memo. It sets a "1-hour" deadline. 11.5 DHS exempts teens, elderly, families, foreign pilots and religious workers, among others, from US-VISIT screening to reduce flight delays if necessary. Foreign aircrew are exempt even though a number of Saudi and other foreign Muslim airline pilots have been linked to terrorism. At the same time, religious workers, including Muslim clerics, have been ranked among the "lowest threat" among the 10 visa classifications. (I have redacted the specific rankings, from highest threat to lowest, for obvious reasons.) Yet hundreds of Muslim clerics have been linked to terrorism (many of whom still preach in the U.S.). 11.6 Foreign workers handling cargo at U.S. port facilities are not fingerprinted and processed under US-VISIT, as of the writing of the memo. "Cargo crew processing cannot be initiated until future implementation of remote US-VISIT processing is developed," says the memo, written Jan. 2, 2004, by Jason P. Ahern, assistant commissioner of field operations for the U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Department of Homeland Security. TRUTH HURTS...and USA knows...

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Who didn't see ISLAM in RWANDA and other African countries..It is in Australia, Latin America and almost in all parts of the world.. Allah said..IN SURATUL SAFF..holy Quraan chapter. " 8 Fain would they put out the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light however much the disbelievers are averse." " 9 He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may make it conqueror of all religion however much idolaters may be averse."