Originally posted by ibtisam: no; the only somali's i see at uni are sisters and 60yr old somali men :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Nice try and welcome to the sea of Somali 'eligible' Bachelors.U only see the ones who are 60 years Old.you ain't a blind...? By the way I saw lot of rich somali bachelors who work for many MN companies..who keep low profile..don't marry..and just single.Age bracket 23-34 years...The list is growing as days go..coz you only see the sisters at Uni...do u mean there are or were no brothers at various universities..?what about the ones who completed schooling 5-6 years ago? I don't know why Many bachelors are avoiding Somali sisters..Should there be a reason to worry..?

Originally posted by ibtisam: ...so there is better chance i will marry a none somali, beacuse i meet more non somali; see the logic ppl peace out The only 'Somali' eligible to marry you are the ones who tend to chat up with you on Bus parks...and 'You refuse'..Oh that is good.No wonder you don't meet those with Degrees and work in Multinational Companies...Ibtisaam..you got a lot of work to do.. >>>>Marry those white skinnies and make yourself even more coloured..

Originally posted by Lozt: quote: Flipmode wacha siasa bro, Our Grandfathers are from somalia...most of my cousins are from somalia..and now the way i speak somali lang is just like them and i add the word *NOOH* sometimes... P:s am a sujuu from jiji/Nairobi born and breed there...but i still consider myself as a somali qaxooti all thou i have kenyan baasaboor..hehehe... So who said Siujis are Not Somalis..or you felt like writing and you are actually doing it..we differed on some principles with 'Other'Somalis. Nobody said we ain't somalis or our grand fathees weren't from Somalia. Read Paragraphs properly..Wacha kusinzia jo bestee

Originally posted by Fidel: "This year approximately 200,000 more women will receive bachelor's degrees than men," Mortenson says. "That means 200,000 women will not find a college-educated husband to marry. Next year there will be 200,000 more, and on and on. Women are being faced with two bad choices: not to marry at all, or marry a guy who delivers pizzas." In a more general sense, he argues that a culture filled with ill-educated, drifting men does not add up to a pretty picture for anyone, including women. Mortenson cites a conversation he had with the president of an historically black college where the female/male ratio had reached the startling figure of five to one. Read the whole article . These numbers in the article are in the United States. Any idea what the ratio is in the expatriate Somali communities? What about in Somalia? A father to two girls (with hopes of being a grandfather someday), this is very disturbing indeed. I wonder what it will be like in 20-25 years.

Lost Generation..we need to do something...

This is also a fine topic worth discussion..Let it go for mroe discussion.

^^^This is also another superb article.Let us concentrate to build an information gathering of things that concern us most..

^^^Thanks for this kind of Research..I have a lot of respect for YOU Brother Nur. Brothers and sisters, please listen to those words and try to do something..

Asalam aleykum, To follow your conscience is what one wishes to do in life, be it or not.Preference is also another part of life. Most Somali ladies marry Somali men coz of Family connections, Honesty, trust relationship, culture, religion, background, freindship and more so Somalinimo. What you don't find with other cultures is Lack of Honesty and privacy,dishonesty(although a small margin is there in somali communities), and mismatch in culture. An example is that many of the white communities had generations of Christianity which collates other forms of cultures attached to it.They call it freedom.Their men will go in length to 'court' another lady or groove with another lady right there as you are watching..when you ask about it, they will claim 'she is my freind', they have a supposed freedom and unless you are courting for a legal case, stay far.He may have several 'freinds' and still be with you. He may even treat you like a freind. Their families are mostly christian, so you will never associate with them freely.They may at times call you for a family party, where whisky and drinks are normal.They may spray whisky on you assuming you don't have any problems with it.when you object, they will go in great length to say you messed their parties and toe xplain that whisky has not been mentioned in Islam..so on and so forth.That is their culture.When they accompany you for a small journey..they can make your daily Islamic routines just Nasty. Ok, I don't refuse some caucs are Muslims Down heart and would try to isolate their families, but Family is family...No matter how you isolate his family..You will always feel uncomfortable.I have talked to some somali ladies about this and they agreed. Likewise many Somali men would love to marry white Blondes and brunnettes simply by watching lots of interesting 'porno' online'.Still thinking You get what you see..They may be sweet and attractive but not sweeter than the Normal Xaliimo..who are more Honest and more relaible. The 'Blondes' are generally not Honest..They can get one kid with you and you start Legal tussles.I got to chat with a simple blonde from Germany sometime ago and told me a great story.This people don't have religion even will not accept Christianity itself.They will go a great length to just 'enjoy life'..This lady whenever she goes for her assignment, she tells me she has a man there..She has been in Brazil ,Japan, Africa and Arabia and was telling me about her brazil Boyfreind.I wondered what kind of a man would marry such a lady..But that is their culture..They call it freedom..which Our Religion doesn't accept. Wasalam. have a nice day, won't you

Originally posted by Dhubad: Sxb all Somalia girls look the same to me, there is no difference(in terms of look) whether she was born in Borama or Garisa. You can tell Sijuu guys easily by the way they dress. Trouser + Trainers = styles. as far am concerned, Genes of all Somalis from Djibouti to Garissa down In Kenya are same.Ladies are also same.But one thing.. Talk about Quality and not quantity.Sijui ladies are a crop of their own. The way we treat them ladies is in contrast with the way you treat them down there in Burco and Xamar.Sijui ladies are gentler and understanding unlike the 'Swindlers' as is with the attires,..am sure you wouldn't argue if I add the pairs with Nike Shoes. anyways It is better Than Macawiis you adore in the City Centres and at the airports

Originally posted by rayaana: I never in my life thought one would deny their own identity. Flip mode can you add to your prestigious suijinimo list -ignorance rates with suijis THEY CALL THE PLACE 'LITTLE LONDON' ...It looks like any other african country except there are some few high rise buildings in the city. These ain't Sijuis But whole Kenya But did u see Those Macawiis fellows and STATISTICS OF AIDS IN SOMALIA.. There are wandering street kids and prostitutes who (the reporters say all carry the aids HIV virus) *People cannot talk on the mobile phone outside of their homes or walk with a hand bag safely walking in the neighbourhood. SO U THOUGHT.. Ok ...about sujui girls being better looking when compared to somali girls: This one you will 'NEVER' win

Originally posted by MR ORGILAQE: Ok people enough of this sijui bashing........... While going to Somalia...ORGILAQE...Me myself and I ( I don't know why I like swallowing a whole Mbuzi) has all this to say: POOR INFRASTRUCTURE: ..The plane was landing and all i could see was water...it turns out the approach was over the sea and the runway close to it.The plane landed safely and to my shock i see a few skinnies with their macawis on the runway!!!!! POOR HEALTH AND ILLITERACY: ...to make matters worse they were busy brushing their teeth off a stain that didnt seem to be going away with their stick brushes. LACK OF CUSTOMER SERVICE: ..but then this jareer dude half naked all sweaty was running around with the luggage and shouting people's names. ..He called out my name and i responded and he threw the bag at me. Suprises didnt end there. LACK OF COMMUNICATION: Family members were waiting for me that i had never met in my life as yet and i easily recognised the family look and walked up to them.To cut a long story short we all got to know each other and drove to their house. LACK OF ADMINISTRATION: On the way we passed the Xawo taako monument and shabelle centre near the old parliament building and i was told this was the centre of the city and what do i see "ari carbeed" nice...... a bit further and this dude with his donkey cart was busy whipping his donkey.Cimaamad flying all over the place like a charging cavalry officer on his horse! MISMANAGEMENT: We finally got there in a place called bakaaraha and i must say it took me a while to actually manage to walk in the damn place all sandy no roads kids shitting in every corner, PUBLIC HEALTH: The milk was un pasteralised and the first few days couldnt take in my tea and i could not understand for the life of me the fascination with saliid macsaro....you see dudes actually drinking OIL!!!!! UNHEALTHY: .... for instance the ladies who made muufo! she wipes her sweat on the same hand she then uses to make the muufo without washing.... suffice to say i stopped eating the damn thing!.and the cinemas ......no roofs apart from one i saw and when it rains everybody runs for cover.!!!!!! my point is dont bash others when you aint exactly perfect ok? Now Non-sijuis..Please pretend you have never heard of all this and ask A Sijui anything you wish to ask. :mad: :mad: ..!!!!!This is a real Life story..Dare Talk

Originally posted by A l l a m a g a n: Sujui, What were you before 1990s in the kenyan societies? C'mon nacasnimo yeesan idin qaadin ee shib iska dhaha. We were still educated and prosperous without Corruption from Somalia.Infact our standards went down following the influx of the refugees. We would take a flight direct to London without Visas..do u understand dude.. yaa kuu warama :cool: :cool:

^^Surely one of the most interesting articles at SOL.Thanks for sharing with us.. However, all indications written for 'MAN' in ISLAM in some cases also refers to man and Woman as in Mankind..

Originally posted by McPharax: quote:Waarye Brownie, so you saying Dude! Get real! Ninka baq-baqdiisa meesha hakala tago I dont think this fella is a sujuu,he comes across as Sheegad. The many sujuus that i have come across are much humbler and quite wittier. Like i said any farax who comes yapping about how somalis look different,is definetly somewhat coo-coo.[Hence the example i gave on all the ugly seatlites ]. Can you try spotting the difference btwn the Farax from Burhaje & Elwaaq?? . I think it is very shallow to even urgue with this dude[btw,what it dooo??] You see reffering to ^^^..This is Good.Now everyone is talking sense..

Originally posted by STOIC: ........ conclude your "survey" like this: that all the Somalis(from somalia) are dull, ****** and lack the vitality for a civilized social convention? Good boy.Thanks for your REVIEW of my personal "survey"as you call it..Sometime, Brother STOIC, I wish you were 'our' King.Thank you for stating the 'Obvious'..I like you. Real Shit is Happening.. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Originally posted by Kashanre: quote:Originally posted by Brown McPharax: Waarye Brownie, so you saying statistical estimates about Kenya itself proofs the incoherency of the dude who started this thread? LOL! Then I would like to take this opportunity to let it be known that Somali-Americans are better looking, smarter, have better geno-codes, and better tempered then their sijui Somali-Kenyan brethern who are in turn more beautiful, smarter, confident, and have better geno-codes then their nomadic Somali brethern in Somali Republic. :rolleyes: [/QB]^^^Dude, you were almost to the point but missed just one point.It was supposed to be a sub-zero meeting point for all sijui folks..Nevertheless, let Sijuis Rock Your Boat..am sure they do.. Worse still(Facts) Sijuis were infact the people who managed to get Somalis from burden(am certain some did for money, others for God's sake)but many walahi tried to assist the refugees from Somalia.Infact some of the people were affiliated to our own clans in Kenya and Tanzania.We would assist lots of somalis with papers, travel & logistics, material(I know of one somali Refugee who upto now can't locate)who I assisted with a place to sleep and eat for a period of one year and imagine, free without any clan affiliation..Imagine, That is how sijuis were and are..Flash!!! We used to call many refugees.. wajuajis ..pretend they know much than us, can teach us,..when in real sense, one can't even read and write..How many do I know we were assisting for translation at the Embassies to get a Visa to travel to Australia, UK and Canada..This same fellows think smart coz now they are abroad and Speak English, Thanks to the World Church Council..But By finishing their crooked deals in kenya and doing corruption..like feeling Smart..??????? In a more civilized world, Corruption is Highly regarded as backward while this wajuajis think it is ok with them and something to be proud of. Many later realized that Refugees were stranded coz of Money and corruption which was started by their refugee brothers from Somalia.Approximately 10% managed to get out and live fine while the rest 90% were caught in bad scenarios..coz of their Ujuajis ..Smartness they call.Fair, is that being Smart anyways.No wonder we call them Wajuajis.. This same people Think they are smart now than the Sijui(Some Somali americans may also be Sijuis from Kenya).. one thing to note however is that Sijuis never change But amn't sure the brethrens from Somalia may have Gene-codes more or less Jam-americans.. or Do I say? :cool: :cool:

^^The aim of the thread wasn't to rant as you said...It was to give Non-sijuis the chance to ask any question they deem important to ask.You have an option to shut your mind and just see.. To look like them physically doesn't mean we are them.We have values, and lots of differences.You may never compare us with 'them'.There are many issues that I raised at the start of the thread and many have debated for or against them. We are not like them and I have no worries to make.So let it stay like that.But it was 'empty'to just say.. Originally posted by Xalimopatra: We are ALL Somali for those of you that doubt sijuis....? :cool: :cool: :cool:

There was this BIG post put in one of the bars which made my HEART fly.....which says ... ......TO ALL ARABS AND MUSLIMS..THIS BAR KINDLY REQUESTS YOU TO LEAVE FONDLING OF WOMEN AND DRINKING ALCOHOL.WE RESPECT YOUR RELIGION ISLAM IN THIS BAR........... :mad: :mad: :mad:

Originally posted by Brown McPharax: quote:Thanks for the reply. I don't believe in those statistics, however. For Kenya, those stats are relatively accurate because they do keep track of such things occassionally. Who knows what the real numbers are for Somalia - a nonexistent state? For Somalia, the CIA, the UN, World Bank and all other orgs use "estimates" with higher margin of error than a nation like Kenya. Include that fact as a footnote next time you compare such stats Y'cieri;You are correct.Data is collected from an educated mass that already knows how to keep records of such stuff,Being the illitrates that we are; we probably dont have any records. In all fairness, I dont think you need a CIA data fact to tell you the appalling state of the education system back home(Wow,Did i just say that?).As i said to Castro;15yrs of chaos has its toll. I'd agree, but I'd add that we're 50 years ahead of Kenya in freedom - that intangible aspect of life, but so essential for the mind, body and soul of a Republic. Why do you think they refer to Nairobi as "Little London"? Kenya is, in reality, the poster boy for neo-colonialism You are just being blindly patriotic...Lol. But i guess opinions vary. Actually you know i think it is fair to ask you to bring "Facts" about that statement. I am actually curious too Much has been said and swallowed.Still I stand by my accurate statistics..By the way do u think I can't make my own statistics..Is Mathematics anyway...But One point to note was that: Y'cieri;You are correct.Data is collected from an educated mass that already knows how to keep records of such stuff, Being the illitrates that we are; we probably dont have any records. reffering to who..Obviously The Walendos...

^^^^^ Originally posted by MR ORGILAQE: wewe nflipmode umetoka "lift varrey" halafu nalitea ujinga yako............sikiza wewe mimi ni mzee wa pwani kiswahili ni lugha yangu siyo kama wewe mkikuyu ama mbaluya kutoka luakhakaha ^^^ C am talking about half caste between Sijuis (a combination Maybe a Sijui blonde..and a mlendo(Qaxooti)..am sorry I have to say... :cool: :cool: but with confidence..Dare say it...Yourself You will see a lot of differences..Like this fellow is trying to squeeze himself fit in a Sijui World... Fala sana ..Is that Sijuinimo...

This is part of the reason why I say...Sijuis are a bit eduacted, speak/write fine English I couldn't comprehend what This Sister was writing...Can anyone help? Please separate Paragraphs and sentences. Thank you

Originally posted by Idil: is their forehead larger or smaller then the regular faraax? Good... Sister Idil..Laakin please avoid 'High' outward motives and Ill chilling abusive languages..was it meant? No wonder I keep scribing about Respect and Smartness, I talked about Confidence.I opened this thread with confidence..If not confidence ..then what? If u Talk about something we can relate..maybe that comes from Being a somali Sis Idil..any other relations will be reffered back to the Nomads.. Ask yourself why Sijuis are: Better educated More Romantic/beautiful..with a cartoonized forhead which looks nice anyway. More respectful.. Please Refer...To the start of the thread...for some more details.. Concentrate on that only..OrgiLaqe..as Mbuzi Man keeps telling us he is half caste Sijui and Walendos...VERY BED..those are the ones born in 'UTANGE REFUGEE CAMP' may be..we Sijuis have no Half caste..That is another problem altogether. ama unataka nianze..Fala mangaaaaaa wewe :cool: :cool:

PREFACE Sijuinimo waa Soomali.. So much has been said about The 'Sijuis' that some of us have come to be totally associated with 'Sijuinimo'and Somalia ..to an extent that our everyday's life is now being classified as .. Sijui or Sijui-not.Many people will welcome you on hearing that you are a sijui and others will refrain..Someone even scribbled about being a SUJUI/SUJUILIZED on his chest and am sure many tatoos will follow..it is going down the heart of some.This is great..Others are giving Sijuinimo a host of other unique words.Factors to consider someone a sijui normally includes Education, Respect,Sense,Nationalism and Modernity..I raised this topic for the sole objective of defining..re-defining the Word 'Sijui'so that our 'other' Somalis whom we share SOL together have atleast the correct picture of who we are. Now let me take the opportunity to discuss the issues that are associated or come up when you utter "..Waryaa 'Sijui". 1. EDUCATION: You will find Sijui people are more learned than their 'other' brothers and sisters from greater Somalia.They tend to Grasp/concentrate and study more. 2. ENGLISH: Most sijuis will probably speak fluent English and have good comprehension of any typical English word unlike the 'others'..U will find a sijui speaking to someone in English and Somali meshed up. 3. RESPECT/EMOTIONS: Sijuis are well respected people like the 'others' and will maintain RESPECT until u betray them.In that case they will just keep quite and pretend that 'Nothing' happened. 4.ROMANTIC/BEAUTIFUL: You will find most of them 'Handsome and Romantic. I don't need to describe the Sijui Sisters..Sijui ladies are TOP of Their class.. ..Find out why? 5.NATIONALISM: Sijui people are more nationalists than their 'peers' from Somalia.A sijui will debate a lot to make sure u understand he is not from Somalia..But that is a fact. 6.MODERNITY: Although many Sijuis behave more or less like the 'Others'..They are smart in any of their Dealing with the 'outer' world.They will prove more modern than their peers from across te Border.The president of Somalia will certainly argue with a Macalin Duksi while a 'simple sijui' will take him for a cup of Coffee. I am a sijui..Please ask me anything about The acronym..SIJUINIMO..

No.2. They know it's not the length of the vector that counts, but how you apply the force Sure.. are u talking about System Engineers mise Roads and Bridge Engineers Actually, The word ..Engineer..has come from the word 'Engine'.. No wonder they like talking about Engines or Do I say?