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  1. Inspiring and stunning as well..........many people have started seeing Light at the end of the tunnel..
  2. FF, That was nice walahi.We need such people to help spread Islamic messages across the youth in western world and the upcoming "pretenders" This are the people we need in our society ...Like Ali, who sounds modern and still teaches Islam in a practical manner..
  3. Originally posted by Northerner: Cambarro, forget Dubai. Al Khan Lagoon is a nice place to purchase a flat (if thats what your looking for) its also a nice family area. Beware of all agents...some are Arab purporting conmen/women If you need a flat, let me know
  4. Originally posted by LayZieGirl: Poster, how about a simple answer like, MAYBE THEY DON'T LIKE TALKING TO STRANGERS??? I for one, don't like talking to strangers, somali or no somali, but I still return their greeting and continue to walk or whatever, and I guess some folks find it rude with a quick dismissal like that. Life is tough son, keep ya head up. Somali men are the ONLY strangers in the world ...This is what LAZY is saying..
  5. Originally posted by me: ^^ a Somali would have a higher batting averadge. A Somali man would get 29 children with just 3 wives. With 200 wives it would be about +/- 1400 children. Inspirational thread I would say....But 29 is not a good number..I would be in Guiness books My first three wives would have atleast 201 kids...I admit
  6. Cambaro Cilmi got a point here.. ..Let us involve women in all sectors of our society..Religion,Education, politics, social and cultural relations etc.. Women are near "perfection" especially in moulding our families the way they want them to be, The kids..the Men(Husbands) and relatives.. The whole society may perform well with our women in the front wheel.. I am not sure though..
  7. Originally posted by murefu: quote:Sanbuufis waaba suuro HMMMM...malmahaan xata wajigoda ma fiiriyo cuz i hate sanbuufis.. Zu...He is allergic to seeing xalimoos face..Like he has other places to look @...were you on Khat, Mrefu?? "iyada iyo aniga kaliya madoow meesha kanahay".. you are calling a somali woman black???
  8. You have described the Holy Quraan with all your heart BE...Jazakallah.. Keep posting...
  9. Originally posted by Dabshid: Somalidu waa suntii hargaha, the guy likes to write abt Dubai, leave him alone... Endeaver, welcome to Dubai ^like democrazyyyy
  10. This is an Important Topic that needs a lot of consideration and I think many nomads agree with me.. Jazakallah kheiran for the article..
  11. I think the issue the brother indicated raises a greater concern to any muslim man/woman who values the teachings of his/her religion..to act
  12. Originally posted by RendezVous: This is a crusade against Islam, that started Long time ago.. First: Cartoons against the Prophet---mocking our religion...a religion practised by 1.5 billion people, whites, blacks, yellow, chinese,aborigines and latinos Second: Bush talks about Islamo-Fascists...Islam is not like christinity which has methodists, fascists, nazist, communist..This is meant to cause Divisions In Islam..Next you will hear Islamo-semites, Islamo-cushites, Islamo-blackz, Islamo-Nazis and a host of other ways to destroy Islam. Third: Pope quotes a 13th century Christian monk and says, he is only quoting, but why?? How does Islam concern him, why can't he control his group of christianity and what has Islam got to do with him. Islam set the correct teachings, thus it argues, This current Bible is not a God's word and That the current bible contains/contained almost 50,000 errors and contradictions & That Islam favours Women more than Christianity..........No wonder western women convert to Islam in numbers???? & That Islam denounces Terrorism....although, there are others who use Islam's name So the worst cry comes from learning, that Islam is converting millions from Christianity and that is never to be taken lightly. I remember in Africa, since I was 10, every friday, a group of 10-50 people were converting to Islam..If Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, why cry??. Islam was not spread by Sword as Benedict claimed in his speech..If by sword, How did Islam reach Japan and Hawaii CONCLUSION: Since Islam is against feminism (read Prostitution/Multiple patners), against Liberation( read Stripping and walking semi-naked),homo-sexuality/lesbianism(Read Catholics), against Gambling and clubbing, against all sorts of vices, corruption..Then everyone is feeling a pinch & starts "barking".. But Even Benedict NO.100 reads news, statistics and updates sometimes SB.............Enjoy the thread..
  13. This is a crusade against Islam, that started Long time ago.. First: Cartoons against the Prophet---mocking our religion...a religion practised by 1.5 billion people, whites, blacks, yellow, chinese,aborigines and latinos Second: Bush talks about Islamo-Fascists...Islam is not like christinity which has methodists, fascists, nazist, communist..This is meant to cause Divisions In Islam..Next you will hear Islamo-semites, Islamo-cushites, Islamo-blackz, Islamo-Nazis and a host of other ways to destroy Islam. Third: Pope quotes a 13th century Christian monk and says, he is only quoting, but why?? How does Islam concern him, why can't he control his group of christianity and what has Islam got to do with him. Islam set the correct teachings, thus it argues, This current Bible is not a God's word and That the current bible contains/contained almost 50,000 errors and contradictions & That Islam favours Women more than Christianity..........No wonder western women convert to Islam in numbers???? & That Islam denounces Terrorism....although, there are others who use Islam's name So the worst cry comes from learning, that Islam is converting millions from Christianity and that is never to be taken lightly. I remember in Africa, since I was 10, every friday, a group of 10-50 people were converting to Islam..If Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, why cry??. Islam was not spread by Sword as Benedict claimed in his speech..If by sword, How did Islam reach Japan and Hawaii CONCLUSION: Since Islam is against feminism (read Prostitution/Multiple patners), against Liberation( read Stripping and walking semi-naked),homo-sexuality/lesbianism(Read Catholics), against Gambling and clubbing, against all sorts of vices, corruption..Then everyone is feeling a pinch & starts "barking".. But Even Benedict NO.100 reads news, statistics and updates sometimes SB.............Enjoy the thread..
  14. Originally posted by Tyjwania: Shaggy calls a shop ^ Am tellin ya, bloody Brits have no sense of humour. Prank Call 2 walahi somebody is a freak here........................
  15. Hamid Ansari, chairman of the Indian National Commission for Minorities, said: "The language used by the pope sounds like that of his 12th-century counterpart who ordered the Crusades." "This is the second time such an offence has been give before Ramadan," he said, referring to last year's publication of cartoons in a Danish newspaper that led to violent protests by Muslims around the world Sheikh Hamza Mansour, who heads the Shura Council of the Islamic Action Front, Jordan's largest opposition party, said only a personal apology could rectify the "deep insult made by the provocative comments" to over one billion Muslims. In Egypt, Muhammad Mahdi Akif, the leader of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, called for an apology. "The remarks do not express correct understanding of Islam and are merely wrong and distorted beliefs being repeated in the West," Akif said in a statement.
  16. Originally posted by bilan: Pope Seen Criticizing Islam IslamOnline.net & News Agencies "This is maybe the strongest criticism because he doesn’t speak of fundamentalist Islam but of Islam generally," Renzo Guolo, a professor of the sociology of religion at the University of Padua, told The New York Times on Wednesday, September 13. "Not all Islam, thank God, is fundamentalist." In 2004, Pope Benedict also caused a stir by opposing Turkey's accession into the European Union. He said Turkey should seek its future in an association of Islamic nations, not with the EU, which has Christian roots. Why should the pope quote from a christian of the 13th Century and claim it's not his words..Does that mean, he is partisan to stem the current trend that the world is being Islamized by attacking Islam directly now.. By the way, there is nothing like Islam and Fundamentalist...Islam is Islam...we need no division in Islam
  17. Warning against the anti-Islam missionaries of "">www.QuranBrowser.com!![/b] Dear brothers and sisters in Islam,Our brother, Mr.Osama Abdullahi, who previously owned http://www.anweringchristianity.com, which was attacked million of times, which changed it's name to Answering Christianity would like to warn you..Keep reading: As'salamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh (may Allah Almighty's peace, mercy and blessings be upon you) and also be upon your families as well. I want to warn you against the anti-Islam Christian missionaries of www.QuranBrowser.com. This web site uses the most lethal and stealthy methods to attack Islam. In their output result pages, they have links that are aliased with asterisks (*) that route the user, if he/she clicks on it, to a different web site. I have noticed that they link heavily to www.answering-islam.org and debate.org web sites. Now those who are familiar with these anti-Islam web sites would immediately see that the missionaries of www.QuranBrowser.com are striking Islam in very special and unique ways. They want to gain the trust of all Muslims by having them use their site for searching and researching the Noble Quran, and then they strike Islam by linking to these rubbish web sites. Very slick, but not any more! The game stops right here!! This is the main reason why I have decided to strengthen my www.QuranSearch.com project. I have far more translations than them with the same advanced features and capabilities that they offer. So there is not a single reason whatsoever for any Muslim, after this warning, to use their despicable and deceptive web site for researching the Noble Quran!! Please pass this warning message to all of the Muslims that you know who use the internet and whom you think would research the Noble Quran online. This is not about me and my web site. I do not collect any money for the work that I do for the sake of Allah Almighty, and I made this loud and clear on the site. So please don't think that I am taking advantage of this situation for personal gain. It is our duty as Muslims to protect Islam and to cherish it! This is what I am doing, and this is what Allah Almighty also expects you to do. I am not saying that you must use my web site brothers and sisters. But if you fear Allah Almighty, and you have the least respect and admiration for Islam, then you must discontinue, at once, using these infidels as a helpful resource, and to also discontinue helping their rank on the web by discontinuing to visit them. Not only that, but you must also warn all of the Muslims around you from them! By the way, you can also download my FREE Noble Quran Search Software, which will soon insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing) contain all of the English translations, the Arabic Noble Quran, and the world's major language-translations in it all for FREE! Thank you very much for reading my warning message dear beloved brothers and sisters in Islam, and may Allah Almighty greatly bless you and your families! Ameen. Your humble brother in Islam, always, Osama Abdallah
  18. Originally posted by Nubia: For the ladies: If romance is ebbing from your relationship then train yourself to be a sensuous woman. Arm yourself with the right tools and master the arts of been sensuous. Lo siento can not be more descriptive without been labelled immoral by pugnacious upstarts. Wierd...are you urging Xaliimos to "do" it without their men....You are so wierd..Just do it yourself...and those Gaalo instruments are not allowed in Islam...anyways Read Islam properly ...
  19. Issues are going X-rated mode.......I need to fly
  20. CHRISTIANS MISSIONARIES DECEPTION IN AFRICA- SOMALIA AND THE SO CALLED SOMALI CHRISTIANS This guide is intended to improve awareness about the tactics used by some groups and cults. The tactics of missionaries and missionary groups may vary, but there are some basic guidelines to keep in mind that will be helpful in dealing with them. HIDDEN AGENDA Some missionaries attempt to develop a rapport with their subject without divulging their own religious affiliation or intention. As an example to make making them seem less "Christian" missionaries are coached by their superiors to avoid using words such as "Christ" or "savior" or "baptize".If you are not sure about the religious identity of the stranger who begins talking to you about religion, ask him directly about his beliefs and agenda. Be suspicious of an indirect answer. Remember these people aren't interested in dialogue or trying to improve Anglo-Muslim links but are often in SECURE PAID EMPLOYMENT to Sell Christianity. CREATING DOUBT IN MUSLIMS When talking to a Muslim about religion, a missionary may attempt to elicit as many "I don't know" responses as possible, in order to establish his superiority in matters of religion.Don't allow yourself to be intimidated!Remember, the missionary has studied Islamic beliefs for the sole purpose to sell Christianity to Muslims. There heart are sealed and they are no longer interested in truth. Keep in mind that he is not speaking to you in order to exchange ideas, but rather to create as much doubt in your mind and lead you away from your faith. If you want to learn more about the Quran, doso from someone who doesn't have hidden motives. Therefore, feel free to simply end the conversation and walk away. Remember that many of these questions and associations they are trying to sell have been debunked many times by more learned Muslims. If they were interested in dialogue the would be speaking to respected elders and community leaders exploring common ground improving understanding and faith in the community, but all one sees are the often the same questionagain to unsuspecting victims. Ask yourself what do they hope to gain ?However, some of you may want to listen to their arguments and then learn the Muslim response, in order to be better prepared for future encounters. One must also remember that many missionaries intentionally go into Muslim areas in Britain sothey train themselves and create the most seductive "Sales Pitch" they can manage. Once they have finished there training in salesmanship they will target unsuspecting Muslims (thelonely, vulnerable and weak) lacking in knowledge.The following pointers should give you a basic idea of what to look for. VARIOUS WAYS OF DECEPTION The missionary may tell you that he (or a Christian friend or acquaintance) was once an Muslim, or that he had a solid Muslim education, a traditional Muslim family life, etc. This is almost always a lie, so don't let him fool you. The hidden message that he is attempting to convey is that he came to accept Christianity after knowing and overcoming all of the Muslim objections (Jesus being son of god, Bible being corrupted by man etc.), and therefore, why should you bother tocheck it out? He may drop certain Islamic phrases or talk about the details of his "traditional" Muslim upbringing, in order to lend more credence to his story. In fact, his "memory" is often the result of careful coaching.The missionary might tell you that he knows the Islamic objections to his arguments, and will then proceed to show how such objectives are ill-founded. Don't expect to hear the real Islamic response from such a source. GOOD, BAD OR UGLY Don't be taken in by the "good cop - bad cop" routine. This routine involves a "bad cop" who threatens the subject, and a "good cop" who protects him from the "bad cop". The subject isso grateful to the "good cop", and so worried about losing the good-will of his protector, that he invariably shows his appreciation by telling the "good cop" what he wants to hear. In similar fashion, the "good" Christian talks about how much he loves and respects Muslims, while denouncing the "bad" Christians who hate and have persecuted Muslims. The naive and ones lacking in knowledge of Christian history and bigotry will feel grateful to the "good cop", and may automatically judge him to be a friend and reliable ally. Watch out for hidden motives behind such "friendship". WHO BELIEVES IN THE SON OF GOD? At the outset, the missionary will talk about his belief that Jesus is the messiah. Many Muslims don't find out until later, often after they have joined a Christian friendship group, that their fundamental belief is that Jesus is god. Any talk about "the messiah" or "son of god" is merely a cover for that belief, basic to Christianity . However, since such a concept is repugnant in Islam, this most basic belief of Christianity is glossed over as much as possible when missionaries talk to Muslims. DOES HE HAVE ANY PROOF or IS IT SPOOF ONLY? Don't be impressed by the claim that Christians have 50, or 100, or 300 "proofs" that they are correct in their claims about Jesus. As proof after proof is shown to be meaningless, the missionary will hide behind his numbers, as if to say: "Well, we have so many more proofs, what's the difference if you can disprove some of them". He will attempt to "split the difference" with you: "Well, even if half our proofs prove nothing, we still have another 25 or 50, or 150". Remember, all of their proofs can be shown to be untenable. Keep in mind that a faulty point is not worth 50% of a good point, or 25%, or 10%. It is worthless. The simple mathematics are: 50 x 0 = 0, 100 x 0 = 0, 300 x 0 = 0. CIRCULAR REASONING-CHECK THIS ONE Very often, the reasoning used by Christian missionaries is circular. That is, the "proof" only points to something is if you believe it in the first place, and therefore is no proof at all. MISTRANSLATION OF ISLAMIC FACTS AND THE HOLY QURAAN AND HADEETH Be aware of the problem of mistranslating. A person who is not familiar with Arabic can be lead to accept a mistranslating which puts a Christian "twist" on a verse that never had such a meaning in the original. If you can't check it out yourself, talk to a reliable person who can. Remember, it is no coincidence that the Muslims of past generations, who were much better versed in the Arabic, never had any serious problems refuting Christian missionary arguments. In addition beware of Christian Translations of the Quran, many date from sixteenth to the eighteenth century with the sole intention of to discredit Islam.Please keep in mind ANY translation (interpretation) of the Quran will most definitely contain errors In its natural language (Arabic), the Quran is the direct Word of Allah (God) to mankind through the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him). Any translation of the Quran no longer retains that 'official' and perfect status, however it can be tremendously helpful to beginning students wanting to learn more about Islam.We would strongly encourage those want to learn about Islam to purchase a copy of the Quran but with the following conditions: 1. get one with commentary (tafseer) 2. make sure the tafseer is scholarly (e.g. references to reasons behind a verse, references to hadith and sunnah, etc.) 3. An excellent English translation and commentary of the Quran is Maududi's recently published work "The Meaning of the Quran". QUOTING OUT OF CONTEXT OF ISLAMIC FAITH Often a verse will be quoted to you that has been taken entirely out of context. When the entire chapter that contains that verse is read, it becomes clear that it does not corroborate the Missionary._ CONCLUSION OF THE SON OF GOD BELIEVER Selling Timeshare or Christshare? You may recognize many of the tactics used by some Missionaries in selling there faith as they have similarities to disreputable Timeshare and Double glazing salesman, and this raises someinteresting points: Why would one propagate faith in such a deceitful and underhanded way, is it because: God will not aid ones seeking the true path? A bad product is difficult to sell unless you dupe someone? If you are genuinely interested in faith... Why don't you go ask someone with a sound knowledge and understanding of Islam, instead of targeting the naive, vulnerable and the weak. Why do you seek out the naive and weak and then intentionally ask Mischievous questions, when they have been answered many times by learned scholars and by people that youhave approached over the years? Surely this does not add to knowledge or understanding. Why do you target Muslims Considering the moral depravity often in your own family and neighbourhood and within so called Christians. Is it because Muslims are wealthy in faith?Is it because you have so much hatred for us and you are unable, incapable or tired of other methods: RIDICULE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER There is a very large number of publications by Muslims explaining Islam in plain and simpleEnglish. Look in any public library for books on Islam, a large proportion of them will be byorientalists and Christian missionaries, what do you think motivates someone to write a book on a subject one does not believe in and an area that has been already covered by numerous other books? Remember Christian "Translations" of the Quran whose sole intention was to discredit Islam. THE CRUSADES AND CHRISTIAN TERRORISM Butchered everyone including defenseless women and children or any one else that got in there way. Although it has taken many hundreds of years Crusaders have improved they now only kill some women and THEY RAPED THE REST- NOW THEY ARE THE GOOD GUYS. The twentieth centuary has seen "Ethnic Cleansing" replace the word Crusade, in 1996 one of the youngest recorded victim of rapein Bosnia was a baby of 4 Months old. Many women and children had two of there fingers severed by the Serbs so that the three remaining fingers would remind them of the Trinity. A WAY FORWARD FOR MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS While we as Muslims believe that the entire Quran is the word of God and we would like every one to accept it as such, God Himself has given the freedom of religion which we respect.With that in mind, all we hope is that non-Muslims will at least enlighten themselves with an open heart and mind by knowing what Islam is. We hope that Muslims, Christians andJews will find ways to work together to bring peace on earth by eradicating immorality, fear, hate, disease, poverty and injustice.Muslims welcome the chance improve dialogue and understanding with all faiths. In addition we do not object to other groups explaining there ideas and faith to whomever expresses aninterest, but we do think it is unacceptable that missionaries demean other faiths, use deceitful methods and harass communities with what can be described highly trained and focused door to door salesman. MUSLIMS ARE ADVISED TO BE AWARY OF THEM AND TO DO A LOT OF RESEARCH IN ISLAM Most Muslims spend their time studying Islam trying to find a path to true enligtenment, and therefore may not be familiar with the "curve-ball" approach of missionaries. If you need advice concerning a problem of this sort, get in touch with people whoare familiar with the tactics being used and who know how to deal with them. You can read How Sheikh Ahmed Deedat cast "Doubts" about Christianity, Including the 50,000 Errors in the bible here
  21. CHRISTIANS MISSIONARIES DECEPTION IN AFRICA- SOMALIA AND THE SO CALLED SOMALI CHRISTIANS This guide is intended to improve awareness about the tactics used by some groups and cults. The tactics of missionaries and missionary groups may vary, but there are some basic guidelines to keep in mind that will be helpful in dealing with them. HIDDEN AGENDA Some missionaries attempt to develop a rapport with their subject without divulging their own religious affiliation or intention. As an example to make making them seem less "Christian" missionaries are coached by their superiors to avoid using words such as "Christ" or "savior" or "baptize".If you are not sure about the religious identity of the stranger who begins talking to you about religion, ask him directly about his beliefs and agenda. Be suspicious of an indirect answer. Remember these people aren't interested in dialogue or trying to improve Anglo-Muslim links but are often in SECURE PAID EMPLOYMENT to Sell Christianity. CREATING DOUBT IN MUSLIMS When talking to a Muslim about religion, a missionary may attempt to elicit as many "I don't know" responses as possible, in order to establish his superiority in matters of religion.Don't allow yourself to be intimidated!Remember, the missionary has studied Islamic beliefs for the sole purpose to sell Christianity to Muslims. There heart are sealed and they are no longer interested in truth. Keep in mind that he is not speaking to you in order to exchange ideas, but rather to create as much doubt in your mind and lead you away from your faith. If you want to learn more about the Quran, doso from someone who doesn't have hidden motives. Therefore, feel free to simply end the conversation and walk away. Remember that many of these questions and associations they are trying to sell have been debunked many times by more learned Muslims. If they were interested in dialogue the would be speaking to respected elders and community leaders exploring common ground improving understanding and faith in the community, but all one sees are the often the same questionagain to unsuspecting victims. Ask yourself what do they hope to gain ?However, some of you may want to listen to their arguments and then learn the Muslim response, in order to be better prepared for future encounters. One must also remember that many missionaries intentionally go into Muslim areas in Britain sothey train themselves and create the most seductive "Sales Pitch" they can manage. Once they have finished there training in salesmanship they will target unsuspecting Muslims (thelonely, vulnerable and weak) lacking in knowledge.The following pointers should give you a basic idea of what to look for. VARIOUS WAYS OF DECEPTION The missionary may tell you that he (or a Christian friend or acquaintance) was once an Muslim, or that he had a solid Muslim education, a traditional Muslim family life, etc. This is almost always a lie, so don't let him fool you. The hidden message that he is attempting to convey is that he came to accept Christianity after knowing and overcoming all of the Muslim objections (Jesus being son of god, Bible being corrupted by man etc.), and therefore, why should you bother tocheck it out? He may drop certain Islamic phrases or talk about the details of his "traditional" Muslim upbringing, in order to lend more credence to his story. In fact, his "memory" is often the result of careful coaching.The missionary might tell you that he knows the Islamic objections to his arguments, and will then proceed to show how such objectives are ill-founded. Don't expect to hear the real Islamic response from such a source. GOOD, BAD OR UGLY Don't be taken in by the "good cop - bad cop" routine. This routine involves a "bad cop" who threatens the subject, and a "good cop" who protects him from the "bad cop". The subject isso grateful to the "good cop", and so worried about losing the good-will of his protector, that he invariably shows his appreciation by telling the "good cop" what he wants to hear. In similar fashion, the "good" Christian talks about how much he loves and respects Muslims, while denouncing the "bad" Christians who hate and have persecuted Muslims. The naive and ones lacking in knowledge of Christian history and bigotry will feel grateful to the "good cop", and may automatically judge him to be a friend and reliable ally. Watch out for hidden motives behind such "friendship". WHO BELIEVES IN THE SON OF GOD? At the outset, the missionary will talk about his belief that Jesus is the messiah. Many Muslims don't find out until later, often after they have joined a Christian friendship group, that their fundamental belief is that Jesus is god. Any talk about "the messiah" or "son of god" is merely a cover for that belief, basic to Christianity . However, since such a concept is repugnant in Islam, this most basic belief of Christianity is glossed over as much as possible when missionaries talk to Muslims. DOES HE HAVE ANY PROOF or IS IT SPOOF ONLY? Don't be impressed by the claim that Christians have 50, or 100, or 300 "proofs" that they are correct in their claims about Jesus. As proof after proof is shown to be meaningless, the missionary will hide behind his numbers, as if to say: "Well, we have so many more proofs, what's the difference if you can disprove some of them". He will attempt to "split the difference" with you: "Well, even if half our proofs prove nothing, we still have another 25 or 50, or 150". Remember, all of their proofs can be shown to be untenable. Keep in mind that a faulty point is not worth 50% of a good point, or 25%, or 10%. It is worthless. The simple mathematics are: 50 x 0 = 0, 100 x 0 = 0, 300 x 0 = 0. CIRCULAR REASONING-CHECK THIS ONE Very often, the reasoning used by Christian missionaries is circular. That is, the "proof" only points to something is if you believe it in the first place, and therefore is no proof at all. MISTRANSLATION OF ISLAMIC FACTS AND THE HOLY QURAAN AND HADEETH Be aware of the problem of mistranslating. A person who is not familiar with Arabic can be lead to accept a mistranslating which puts a Christian "twist" on a verse that never had such a meaning in the original. If you can't check it out yourself, talk to a reliable person who can. Remember, it is no coincidence that the Muslims of past generations, who were much better versed in the Arabic, never had any serious problems refuting Christian missionary arguments. In addition beware of Christian Translations of the Quran, many date from sixteenth to the eighteenth century with the sole intention of to discredit Islam.Please keep in mind ANY translation (interpretation) of the Quran will most definitely contain errors In its natural language (Arabic), the Quran is the direct Word of Allah (God) to mankind through the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him). Any translation of the Quran no longer retains that 'official' and perfect status, however it can be tremendously helpful to beginning students wanting to learn more about Islam.We would strongly encourage those want to learn about Islam to purchase a copy of the Quran but with the following conditions: 1. get one with commentary (tafseer) 2. make sure the tafseer is scholarly (e.g. references to reasons behind a verse, references to hadith and sunnah, etc.) 3. An excellent English translation and commentary of the Quran is Maududi's recently published work "The Meaning of the Quran". QUOTING OUT OF CONTEXT OF ISLAMIC FAITH Often a verse will be quoted to you that has been taken entirely out of context. When the entire chapter that contains that verse is read, it becomes clear that it does not corroborate the Missionary._ CONCLUSION OF THE SON OF GOD BELIEVER Selling Timeshare or Christshare? You may recognize many of the tactics used by some Missionaries in selling there faith as they have similarities to disreputable Timeshare and Double glazing salesman, and this raises someinteresting points: Why would one propagate faith in such a deceitful and underhanded way, is it because: God will not aid ones seeking the true path? A bad product is difficult to sell unless you dupe someone? If you are genuinely interested in faith... Why don't you go ask someone with a sound knowledge and understanding of Islam, instead of targeting the naive, vulnerable and the weak. Why do you seek out the naive and weak and then intentionally ask Mischievous questions, when they have been answered many times by learned scholars and by people that youhave approached over the years? Surely this does not add to knowledge or understanding. Why do you target Muslims Considering the moral depravity often in your own family and neighbourhood and within so called Christians. Is it because Muslims are wealthy in faith?Is it because you have so much hatred for us and you are unable, incapable or tired of other methods: RIDICULE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER There is a very large number of publications by Muslims explaining Islam in plain and simpleEnglish. Look in any public library for books on Islam, a large proportion of them will be byorientalists and Christian missionaries, what do you think motivates someone to write a book on a subject one does not believe in and an area that has been already covered by numerous other books? Remember Christian "Translations" of the Quran whose sole intention was to discredit Islam. THE CRUSADES AND CHRISTIAN TERRORISM Butchered everyone including defenseless women and children or any one else that got in there way. Although it has taken many hundreds of years Crusaders have improved they now only kill some women and THEY RAPED THE REST- NOW THEY ARE THE GOOD GUYS. The twentieth centuary has seen "Ethnic Cleansing" replace the word Crusade, in 1996 one of the youngest recorded victim of rapein Bosnia was a baby of 4 Months old. Many women and children had two of there fingers severed by the Serbs so that the three remaining fingers would remind them of the Trinity. A WAY FORWARD FOR MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS While we as Muslims believe that the entire Quran is the word of God and we would like every one to accept it as such, God Himself has given the freedom of religion which we respect.With that in mind, all we hope is that non-Muslims will at least enlighten themselves with an open heart and mind by knowing what Islam is. We hope that Muslims, Christians andJews will find ways to work together to bring peace on earth by eradicating immorality, fear, hate, disease, poverty and injustice.Muslims welcome the chance improve dialogue and understanding with all faiths. In addition we do not object to other groups explaining there ideas and faith to whomever expresses aninterest, but we do think it is unacceptable that missionaries demean other faiths, use deceitful methods and harass communities with what can be described highly trained and focused door to door salesman. MUSLIMS ARE ADVISED TO BE AWARY OF THEM AND TO DO A LOT OF RESEARCH IN ISLAM Most Muslims spend their time studying Islam trying to find a path to true enligtenment, and therefore may not be familiar with the "curve-ball" approach of missionaries. If you need advice concerning a problem of this sort, get in touch with people whoare familiar with the tactics being used and who know how to deal with them. You can read How Sheikh Ahmed Deedat cast "Doubts" about Christianity, Including the 50,000 Errors in the bible here
  22. Israel is operating the Holocaust of the 21st Century If you ever read about holocaust, then you are actually seeing so much now.. Israel and the Jews are above the world laws
  23. :mad: :mad: Racists, war mongers, Terrorists who want to divide Muslims are calling all Muslims "Islamofascists".. Osama and AlQaeda helped the USA to root Russia(Then USSR) from Afghanistan.America was providing Money, logistical support, armour and heavy weapons like our ARRPT(Anti-Terrorism Coalition) In somalia to make sure the Russians take no control of the region. The Russians withdraw,but not defeated after learning America is involved.The Group (Alqaida) then demanded their share of newly found territory and some wads of cash.Disagreement started and the tall building started to cramble. Now again to link Osama and Islam, Terror and Islam...They got a point here: Although Osama is a muslim, They still need to prove that Islam and Muslims are Terrorists and can't live in this era of the 21st Century..But who cares :mad: :mad: Did they forget the Crusades they carried before..killing millions of Muslims... and Is Killings of Israeli of Innocent Civilians not Terrorism...????
  24. My advice to the somali girls is, come back to your senses, we only called you "queens" to make you feel good inside not to behave like a phoney queen. My advice to guys is, it is time we should be assessing the possibility of intergrating with non-somali girls, they are cool and understanding. Nasty phoneys......
  25. Shukaansiga waa banaanka... please Waanba maseeyray..thing