Originally posted by nuune: I no longer consider myself to be from Somalia, or a place that used to be Somalia, this is a difficult approach! This is after I witnessed that Somalia is no longer for Somalis, that Somalia has no hope whatsoever, and that Somalis will never have the dignity, sharaf, cizzo, sumcad and magac they used to have and enjoy, and that Somalia will never be a nation that is capable of governing itself while we have munaafiqiin in our midst who bring and invite foreigners without the consent of its citizens . Nunne, Why don't you just say that you are a secessionist who want to dismember Somalia instead of making the rounds assigning blames for your own beliefs. No need to blame the Xaabashi, you know!. People don't just turn secessionist overnight or because of events. They do that because they believe in it. Saying that " you am no longer a Somali citizen and would campaign for the recognition of Somaliland because Ethiopia invaded Somalia" is tantamount to saying "I have to start eating Khansiir because the haalal grocery shop has run out of Baasmaati rice". Incredible !

Originally posted by HornAfrique: quote:Originally posted by Xaabashi: ^^ Caydiid told the truth the other day so now is the time for you to drag him through the mud. What's interesting is that this letter was a response to the Ethiopians kicking Aydiid and the SNA out of Baidoa and installing Shaati-gaduud and the RRA there. But this MMA guy will tell you he didn't know anything about the RRA and Shaati-gaduud until 2000. How convenient ! He must have been born in 1999. Cajib !

^^ Caydiid told the truth the other day so now is the time for you to drag him through the mud.

mystic, What I eat is none of your business. Go eat your baris and claim arabnimo and declare Jihad every other day.

mystic, don't be so boogged down with the raw meat. I eat it every day and I like it. Secondly, your attack on the Jews above is uncalled for. Stick to insulting the Tigree, they are poor and it doesn't cost you anything.

Typical of you all, you want to know what my qabil is instead of challenging the merit of my argument. Let me ask: what is your sub-clans?

Yes we will eat raw meat and fight like real men. At least we are being ourselves. But we will never pretend fake arabnimo, fake waadadnimo, and wear fake pakistani chumla and run our mouth in front of Aljazira. If the Tigre gonna capture Mukdisho? 100%. They begged you to stop calling the Jihad. You refused. Well they got to do what they got to do.

^^^ Yes we will beg Bob Geldof, the Queen Mother and the Dalai Lama and still chase your geeljire *** in the four corners of Somalia. Northerner, I can understand Casro and Mystic, but you, what are you complaining about? You and your cousins on this forum accuse A/Y of bringing the Tigree to Somalia when you were the first to bring Mengistu to Hargeisa in 1988. Not only you brought the Amxaar/Tigree to Somalia, you invented the idea. So stop being a hypocrite. And if the Tigree today is fighting inside Somalia, the guns he is carrying came through Berbera. So go front somewhere else.

^^ Why are you all surprised. You asked for a fight and they gave it to you. The Tigree don't run their mouth, they walk the walk.

When you call Jihad on the " twice-nominated most starving humans on earth", they have every right to chase their geeljire *** all the way to Mukdisho. Poor people you live alone. You don't put on Arab dress and threaten their existance.

^^^ The fake wadaados challenged the Tigree to come out and fight. The Tigree accepted the challenge. So what are you crying about?

They can change their name all they want, Abu Quteeyba, Abu Mansuur, Abu Jahil ..... They can pretend Arabnimo all they want.... They can change their dress code in favor of Arab outfits ......... They can call for Pakistani, Afghani help , all they want .... All of this is not gonna prevent the Tigree from chasing your *** all the way to Xaamar.The whole world will see fake Arabs running for cover. And it will be televised. Threatening with countless Jihadic extermination one of the poorest communities in the Horn is not only unislamic but it is totally unhuman. As such they have every right to defend themselves. Your fashion show is over.

Originally posted by samuraiW: Alle-ubaahane, Whilst your call for jihad against those whom you classify as the enemy is admirable, I am afraid I personally would have to say “NO”. I do so, for I see nothing that which justifies the call for war, let alone jihad. I will for what it is worth go a bit further to add the enemy you speak of is indeed and actually closer to Islam than you and your colleagues here calling for jihad are. In my view, you are [the] quintessential enemy of Islam, and if any jihad is to be declared, it must be upon you. Which Islam, I wonder might you be speaking of? Certain I am, you and I do not subscribe to the same tenets of Islam, nor do we pray to the same God. Perhaps “tollayeey”, which better fits your call for jihad, would be a golden currency to stir the dozy miniatures in your camp for appallingly contemptible rogues, ‘ilma adeer’ you are. You are neither to be trusted, nor heard of let alone heed your foul bellicose and iniquitous call for jihad. In other words, p*** off, mate and may you burn in hell! Tata… Afkaaga Caanoo lagu qabay ! Son, your eloquence is mind-boggling.

This will be an occasional series xasuusin u ah walaalaheena jecel inay isiloowsiyaan cadowgooda ugu horeeyo ee adduunweynaha ka jiro -- Amxaaro/Tigreey. MMI, you are making it sound that Somali love and happiness and unity is inversly related to tears, sadness and misery in Ethiopia. 1977-78 indeed a glorious time for brave Somalis who killed lots of Ethiopians, many kids in ethiopia became fatherless, many women became widows. You are reminding us as if those were days all somalis were like brothers. 1977-78 was also the beggining of civil war in Somalia. Since those days, Somalia never had peace. It was all downhill from there on. Today Somalia is down with stab wounds from her own children yet the Tigre/Amxaara ennemy is not finishing her. They say " you don't kick when a man is down". Good for them. Even when these shameless Arabized blacks call Jihad on them, they have refrained from attacking. They trid to work with the elected government. I don't think these people like to fight ignorant clansmen who wouldn't last half a day. So Mr MMA, go ahead and make peace among yourselves first. Recover first. War can wait. Once you are fully recovered, and the rains are in and it is all prosperity, and you start exporting some goats and camels to the Saoudis, and you finish burning the forest to sell the charcool to who else and from those proceeds you buys some guns and bombs, then, then my friend, then you will attack Ethiopia and celebrate Somali love.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: Martida tag mala yiraahdo, wuxuu ku tago ayaa la tusaa. [Maahmaah] I second that.

Originally posted by Mr. Red Sea: your identity has been robbed as it seems 'Xabashi',because I don't quite get how you may speak Somali,be in Somali forum,then claim that you are xabashi while advancing the dark idealogy of the Zenawi regime in Addis Ababa,which most of ordinary Ethiopians appose. Let me answer your question with a question "How come you, Mr Red Sea, be in a Somali forum, claim Somalinimo while advancing a dark ideology of munaafiqnimo known as goonigosatinimo, which most Somalis oppose?" Once you answer that, I want to say that you are one of the people encouraging a clash between ICU and Tigre. Would you have accepted if war was to take place in your Somaliland "dearest"? No, you woudn't want a gun-battle in Hargeisa and Burco where your uncles and your second wife live. So be a man, stop your spiniless-ness. Don't call for a war that would destroy lives other than yours.

Originally posted by Mr. Red Sea: ^lol.Mengistu was an Oromo. It doesn't matter Xabashi,I still prefer an Oromo over you anyday,how does that work for you? And I prefer Faisal Ali Waraabe to you. At least he has a spine. You don't. Are you Somali or Somalilander. Circle one now.

^^^ Oromia, Mengistu Hailemariam Ayaana is an Oromo, born in Salalee. You are allowed to lie about this until I provide a link. Now you can go back to liying.

^^^ It is not who I am that matters; is the merit of my argument.

^^^ Ahmed_beenaalee, this is the truth. Read. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/756845.stm

Oromia wrote:** Since when #1 beggar of the world has become a 'respectable nation' ? Oromia, I am often amazed at how you are here pretending to be friends with the Somali. Didn't Mengistu kill many Somalis? Isn't Mengistu an Oromo, just like you? We will bring you and Mengistu to justice. Northerner wrote: Yes lets all believe what Mr Zenawi (corrupt leader of Ethiopian who has killed and stifled public descent with the gun in the past), says, as he is a man of the greatest integrity. Don't lecture me about Meles when you have Rayaale. Well, they just did exactly that, didn't they ? ie, kill your people. And your vaunted response ? An appeal(baryo) to the international community for 'understanding our position'(read: the Etho empire is about to collapse, whatwith the resurgence of rebel groups, defection of generals, and the rise of the ICU)ou dig your own grave, Xabashi. The international community can go to hell. They don't live in the getto with us. As Meles said, there is no waiting for green, amber, red light from any body. In fact, as of last Thursday, the preparation is complete and we are ready to go.

"Hundreds of them have been smuggled in and they have been involved in clashes with security forces in Ethiopia." "I want to stress again that we are not saying we might be attacked, we have already been attacked," Meles said of the Islamists, who have declared holy war on Ethiopian troops in Somalia deployed to protect the Somali government. Now that they have fired the first shots, we as a respectable nation should respond in kind. They just can't kill our people and run to Mukdishu.

http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/391551 Ethiopia ready to attack Somali Islamists Sunday, November 26, 2006 at 07:13 EST ADDIS ABABA — Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi said Saturday his country would not wait for foreign approval to attack powerful Islamists in neighboring Somalia that many fear could lead to a regional war. As the powerful Islamist movement poured troops into frontline positions outside the Ethiopian-backed weak Somali government's seat, Meles called for international understanding but said he needed no "green light" to fight. Speaking to reporters in Addis Ababa two days after announcing to parliament that Ethiopia had completed preparations for war, he said he understood calls for restraint and was committed to dialogue but would act to defend his country. "We respect their views but because it is our country which is being attacked, naturally we do not seek any light — green, red, amber — from anyone to protect ourselves," Meles said Saturday. "The international community should be more supportive of Ethiopia," he said, asserting as he did to lawmakers on Thursday that his nation faced a "clear and present danger" from the Islamists. Meles said radical Islamists were arming and training Ethiopian separatist rebel groups to foment unrest. "Those elements have been engaged in activities of destabilization in Ethiopia," he said. "Hundreds of them have been smuggled in and they have been involved in clashes with security forces in Ethiopia." "I want to stress again that we are not saying we might be attacked, we have already been attacked," Meles said of the Islamists, who have declared holy war on Ethiopian troops in Somalia deployed to protect the Somali government. "We are not declaring war on Somalia, we are simply responding to repeated acts of invasion," he said. "We'll be patient. If we fail, we reserve our right to defend ourselves in the face of violation of our national sovereignty." Many in the international community fear that all-out conflict in Somalia could engulf the Horn of Africa, drawing Ethiopia and its arch-foe neighbor Eritrea, which is accused of supporting the Islamists. Meles repeated that Ethiopia wanted dialogue to resolve the tensions. "We agree that dialogue is the best way forward, nevertheless, we, as the direct victims of this aggression, feel that we might be forced, at some stage, to respond in kind," he said. But even as the Islamists braced for conflict and accused Ethiopia of sending airpower to strike them, the prime minister said he had not yet made a decision on whether engage in direct military action. "We do not yet feel the need to respond," he said, repeating that Ethiopia had several hundred military advisers, trainers and support staff in Somalia but not the thousands of combat troops alleged by U.N. experts and others. He also maintained that no Ethiopian troops had yet been involved in combat with the Islamists who claim to have attacked several Ethiopian military convoys this week. "There have been some clashes between elements of the Somali government and the Islamists, minor incidents here and there, but in any case our troops have not been involved," Meles said. Mainly Christian Ethiopia has watched with growing concern the rise on its southeastern border of the Islamists, who seized Mogadishu in June and now control most of southern and central Somalia. The patriarch of Ethiopia's Orthodox church Abuna Paulos said Addis Ababa was working to uphold peace with its neighbor and called on the international community to offer support. "The Ethiopian authorities are trying to do their best to maintain peace. They are trying to deal peacefully with all our neighbors and I think it is up to international bodies to support the peace-seeking people," Abuna said. With a large ethnic Somali population, Ethiopia fears radicalization of its sizable Muslim minority by the Islamists, some of whom are accused of links to al-Qaida, who have imposed strict Sharia law in areas they control.

Ur country will not gain anything by an invasion,and i don't think the TFG or the federal government we have now, will permitt ur government to invade Somalia so as to deal with the Clan court's threat. The TFG considers the clan courts as an internal threat,true,and should Ethiopia invade somalia,it will only happen if the Ethiopian forces come as peace keepers together with the other foreign troops that our President has already asked for.Another way of Ethiopia's military involvement can be to provide Arms to the TFG or give them air cover while they execute the threat Lieutenant Xaalane, I don't think their should be any war. This is the last thing we need. But if these people follow up their call for Jihad with gun fire, then we have no choice but to stop them. They just can't kill us and run to Mukdisho. That is all.

Originally posted by Lieutenant Xalane: Xabash,somalia is not gonna be like the trenches of Eritrea whereby ur Tigre Generals adopted the ''Human wave'' tactics,and even so,they horribly suffered totalizing almost a whole brigade with out first capturing anything.Somalia is not that strong,but it will wc the invasion and adopt an insurgency case for ur troops.Thats when military might whithers.So we wait,and we'll see.Ur Generals are not fools,they understand whats at stake,and they will avoid an invasion as best as they can,even though they will heavily be depending on their Airforce,where they have Total air superiority.So talk,talk, for talk is cheap,and with out weighing matters,conclude that everything is like a mere punch.No sir it ain't so,but as said,we'll wait and see. Lieutenant who said we are going to do all that. What do you think we are? What we are going to do is to land about 5000 of our para-commandos around Afgooye. Then we will fight our way into Mukdisho, control the airport and the port. Then you will see what we are going to do. Meanwhile, our specially trained forces supported with helicopter gunships will chase and capture Sheik Aweys and Sheik Indcaade and Sheik Turki alive. They will be tried by the International Terrorism Court. Let it be known to friends and foes, whatever we capture will not be returned. So, shoot at us at your own peril.