LOOL, I have no idea and it's quite strange. You have to ask Qudhac, I had posted something from the New York Times about the new pres of NW Somalia fighting for recognition and for some reason it was posted twice, so i deleted this one and Qudhac finds it amusing.

Riyaale must be commended for stepping down when, even though he tried to hold on to power years after his term should have expired.

Ny Times New President of Somaliland Fights for HARGEISA, Somalia (AFP) — The newly-elected president of Somaliland, Ahmed Mohamud Silaanyo, vowed on Friday to campaign “vigorously” for international recognition of his breakaway republic in the Horn of Africa. “During my tenure as president I will vigorously fight for the recognition of Somaliland. The world must recognize our democracy,” Mr. Silaanyo said a day after the announcement of his election victory. “The first part of recognition of our independence is acquired as our people recognize themselves as a free country. What we are seeking is recognition by the outside world,” he said in an interview. Mr. Silaanyo, a member of the dominant ***** clan, studied economics in Britain and served in the government of former Somali president Mohamed Siad Barre. A former British colony tacked on to Somalia when the latter gained independence from Italy in 1960, Somaliland has remained reasonably stable, spared the clan warfare that has dogged Somalia because of the domination of the ******. It broke away from Somalia in 1991 after the overthrow of Siad Barre plunged the country into chaos and anarchy. An official of the hard-line Shabab militia that controls much of southern Somalia said: “The election is a sham and a dictation of anti-Islamic forces.” “Silaanyo must denounce secession,” added the official, who did not want to be named. Mr. Silaanyo, elected for a five-year term, said his government will “concentrate on development and rehabilitation of public services.” He expressed gratitude to outgoing president Dahir Riyale Kahin, from the Gaddabursi clan, “for his services to the nation, including the holding of democratic elections.” Mr. Kahin, who came to power in 2002, conceded on Friday night. “This was a friendly match and at the end somebody had to emerge as a winner,” Mr. Kahin said. “I congratulate President Ahmed Mohamud Silaanyo and his Kulmiye party for winning the presidential election.” He added: “I will remain in the country as an opposition leader and I will hand over my responsibilities immediately, in accordance with the law.” Mr. Silaanyo said he would maintain close links with Ethiopia and called on Somalia to sort out its problems. “Our neighbor Somalia needs peace more than anyone and it is the Somalis themselves who can achieve that. We are praying for peace in their country,” he said. “The Ethiopians are our neighbors. They have always been friends of Somaliland.” Mr. Silaanyo’s election marks the second democratic transfer of power in Somaliland since 1991.

Drs Adna Aadan, ohhhhh no! I thought we were rid of her and her obsession with kissing British butt, I thought she went quietly in the win! She is by far the biggest qabiilist coming out of the NW Somalia camp, calling Puntland (*******taniya). It's expect though when a president is elected from the triangle, that he'll pick with him some of his tribal hawks. Definitely helps in alienating many other regions, which has already been done with the elections that only allowed one group to run, and focused in one area!

Lol, no no. It was an article that showed that the IRI had only sent independant observers to the triangle and borama. Nassir had brought it to my attention, so I made a thread and thought meh, i'll just keep it in Odweyne's IRI thread. Plus, I deleted it in June 29th, before the Somalia Indepedence Day of July 1st, which is the same day that the NW Somalia admin in Hargeysa choose to release the results of their election to commemorate that historic day in our history (the chances of it happened on that day are so small, it must have been planned.) Anyways, It's interesting though if you go on NW Somalia.org , the only video's of celebrations are from the triangle. Burco, Bebera, Maroodi. It's seems the only evidence of elections or celebrations comes from the triangle only.

Originally posted by Qudhac: WWW.CALAACAL.COm what do we have here, the defeated lot once more crying their eyes out i wonder who is going to be the next baffoon to their pirateland they had the petrol station worker and cab driver i heard its going to be PLUMMER next. indeed the defeated lot are alot are alot of comedy. None of those profession have blood on your hands. Now, lets compare all the NW Somalia leaders and how much blood they have on their hands. Riyaale worked for a murderous National Security Service in the same area that many war crimes took place. Lets not start with the SNM, Mohamed Said Barre is not alone in his guilt for these crimes against humanity, for which no-one has yet been prosecuted. Some of the other key architects of this policy of annihilation, men like Mohamed Saeed Morgan, Mohamed Hashi Gaani and countless other collaborators, continue to wreak havoc in Somalia. Others, including Mohamed Ali Samater, live in comfortable exile in the United States and elsewhere in the world. And then others are right here in Somaliland. And they include President Dahir Rayaale, who was head of the feared and powerful secret service, the National Security Service (NSS) in Berbera. President Rayaale is named in A Government at War With Its Own People. Link

Jb no offense, but you are like Rudy, I rarely understand what you two are talking about.

They were legit, but only in the Triangle! So now you are saying you have left Somalia? Lol, that was a quick trip. You must be rich, if you can afford a ticket and stay such a short time. Give it a rest! You posted on June 18th saying you were leaving on the weekend, it's friday and you have already left NW Somalia after staying less then 2 weeks. Lol

I wonder if African own is really in Africa, someone check his IP address, something doesn't seem right.

Ngonge, wants us to be impressed with an election that involved the elites in their society. Which didnt allow all to run for office. The triangle is where all the opposition came from and the triangle is the only area that video's and pics of long lines come from. (Expect for a blurry pic from Erigavo.) Just like the celebrations now are coming from the triangle. Of course we won't get conclusive evidence of celebrations outside of the triangle, we'll have to take your word on it.

NGONGE, We will make sure we have "proper" elections, We will have only two opposition parties and make sure they only come from the triangle. No one from Sool or Sanaag can run, just those that come from the same family. Come on, there was nothing proper about that, when the exact same guys that ran 7 years ago are running again, and if they come from the region that makes up a small portion of your enclave. Atleast, Puntland let everyone from every corner run, where someone from Sanaag came in second, and someone from Sool is the vice-pres. But your election were only proper in the triangle!

Chief_Aaqil, I am very concerned with them, especially the fact that they are killed for no reason, as well they are not your people. Africanown, Of all the things mentioned in article, your only concern is with name of your region? It just proves to me that what is being said must be true, if someone like you raised abroad couldn't even careless about the suffering.

Originally posted by *Ibtisam: With that said, I'm done with the going in circles nacnac with none-shareholders of SL. And we know which group owns the vast majority of shares

General Duke, I dont know if he has accepted it, usually the exiting President Makes a speech to his support the day he finds out about the loss, shakes the hands of the incoming president. I am not sure, but did any of this happen yet? Maybe there is something out there that shows this, but I haven't come across it,yet.

Qudhac Why don't you comment on what this poor old man was saying? Why are you avoiding the discrimination he is complaining about.

IRIN SOMALIA: Ahmed Shide Jama, "It is as if no one knows we are here" Photo: Jane Some/IRIN Ahmed Shide Jama, an elder of the Gaboye clan in Somaliland HARGEISA, 2 July 2010 (IRIN) - Ahmed Shide Jama, in his late 60s, is the leader of one of Somaliland's marginalized minority groups, the Gabooyo. He lives in the Daami area of Hargeisa, capital of the self-declared republic of Somaliland, with at least 8,000 other families (48,000 people). Minority groups such as the Gabooyo experience discrimination, mostly for the work they do, such as shoemaking and iron-smelting. In Somaliland, most of the Gabooyo also work as barbers, a job no other clan will perform. Minority groups such as the Gabooyo are not allowed to marry into the larger Somali community or socially interact with them in any way, despite the fact that they are Somalis and Muslims. Jama spoke to IRIN about the plight of his people: "I am the leader of this community in Daami; there are at least 8,000 families here but no one knows or cares we are here. It is as if they [the majority Somaliland clans] don't see us or know we even exist. "If one of our boys is foolish enough and marries a girl of the majority community, I can guarantee you that he will be killed and so will the girl who marries him. "Imagine, we are all Somalis, Muslims and all God's children and should be treated equally. When you die your deeds will count, not your clan. "For this entire community, there is not a single facility for mother-child healthcare. We had women who died in childbirth because we have no access to healthcare. As you can see, we have no money to go to private hospitals. "It is [presidential] election time here in Somaliland [voting took place on 26 June] and only one party sent someone to lobby us to vote for their candidate. The others don’t care because we are not an important clan. "We have no representation in the Somaliland government or parliament. If we had representation, we could at least go and complain but who would listen to an old Gabooyo man? When you are not represented anywhere, it means you are not there. "When the new government comes in, all I want is for it to first acknowledge that we are here and are a part of this country and that we are Somalis and we are Muslims. "Please give us our rights. I hope whoever gets elected will do better and address our problems. It is a hope but I don’t expect much to change."

Al Jazeera "There's a lot of jubilation on the streets today as the country is also celebrating 50 years of independence from Italy," Al Jazeera's Mohamed Adow, reporting from the Somaliland capital of Hargeisa, said. They are also celebrating because it was the 1st of July and the fact that 50 years earlier the Italians left the other part of our country.

Just like our fellow country men are celebrating on the streets of Hargeysa the date of July 1st (as Mohamed Adow reports), which is the 50th anniversary of independence from Italy, we also celebrate with them an amazing accomplishment in our countries history. We will all have reason now to celebrating two historic moments on July 1st. Well done. Al Jazeera Opposition wins Somaliland vote Opposition leader Silanyo won 49.59 per cent of all votes casted in Somaliland elections [AFP] Ahmed Mohamed Silanyo, the leader of the opposition, has won presidential elections in the breakaway region of Somaliland, northwest of Somalia, electoral officials said. The head of the Tulmiye (Unity) party won 49.59 per cent of all votes cast, while the party of Dahir Rayale Kahin, the incumbent president, managed just 33.23 per cent, the National Election Commission (NEC) said on Thursday. The Justice and Welfare party was third with 17.18 per cent of the vote. "There's a lot of jubilation on the streets today as the country is also celebrating 50 years of independence from Italy," Al Jazeera's Mohamed Adow, reporting from the Somaliland capital of Hargeisa, said. "[silanyo] is a very well-known figure and somebody who is clearly held with high esteem since he won the majority of votes in the elections. "He is an economist who graduated from the University of Manchester and also has a degree from the London School of Economics. "Afterwards he joined the government of Somalia in the capital Mogadishu, but then led the Somali National Movement, a rebel group which liberated the northern territory on which Somaliland now stands." 'Step towards democratisation' International observers said the election had been largely free and fair despite some irregularities, such as the ruling party using public funds, state media and vehicles for its campaign. "This is an important election for the people of Somaliland. It is also one more step toward the democratisation of the country," Essa Yusuf Mohammed, the NEC chairman, said in announcing the results. "The election was free and fair as witnessed by the international observers and this is a step that will lead to the recognition of the country." Somaliland, colonised by Britain while the rest of Somalia was under Italian administration, declared independence in 1991 as the remainder of the country disintegrated into anarchy. Despite its relative stability and the establishment of democratic institutions, Somaliland has yet to be recognised internationally but hopes a smooth transition of power will help its international image. There were 1.09 million registered voters in the region of 3.5 million people, and 538,000 valid votes were cast. The supreme court must endorse the results within 15 days and the incumbent president hand over within 30 days.

The family is definitely united today! Giving advice and everything to each other.

Oodwenye, I give credit where it is due. Unlike many who only want to support their unclave. Now the south has it's issues but in some area's they have limited or got rid of the drug trade of khat, which is no small feet. Puntland was able to have someone step down and let another take over, which is also impressive. NW Somalia held democratic elections in the heart of their region. Now we just need to put everything together, take the good and get rid of the bad. All Somalis should be happy about with what happened today in NW Somalia.

Oodweyne, every other country in the world considers it a region in Somalia. So please dont blame me for saying it also. But let's not take away from this day, I believe the fact the results were released on July 1st might be a sign of things to come. At the very least we still have another reason to celebrate the 1st of July! Because, NW Somalia had a peaceful transfer of power. I am certain that the 3 party leaders will sit side by side and accept this. It's a day for all to celebrate.

When ever a region in Somalia is capable of switching power peaceful, it's a cause for celebration. Hopefully all parties will shake hands and agree to work together. Regardless this is a monumental time in Somalia's history.

Journalists and other influential figures here believe that Somaliland could solve the whole piracy problem with investment of a couple of million quid They man is probably having a reaction to Khat which is in abundance there. He believes them when they say that a couple million pounds can solve the whole piracy issue?. Is this guy mad?? Dozens of navies spending 100's of millions are incapable of doing it. For him to even quote these guys makes him look like a complete fool, anyone reading this will realize any person who says a couple million pounds can solve the piracy issue is insane.

Does any really think Riyaale a former Siad guy will step down peacefully? After being vice President and President for so long, he'll just retire and leave politics? Of course this won't lead to some huge civil war or deaths, but he will come back again, no doubt about it. If he loses he'll contest it and come back or he will win.

I think I have proven your statements are not credible. I provide links to back up what I say and even use yours. You want your word to be taken. Now you are saying that I wrote things that I never did. Well for the record I never said voting didn't took place in Sool and Sanaag, I said no evidence has ever been provided like in the triangle, because I believe that the majority of places did not hold elections or attendence was low. All photographs except some grainy ones from Erigavo, which for some reason are the poorest quality while the triangle is clear. I also said that the international observers were not credible because they either did not go to disputed area's outside of the triangle or they were made up of diaspora members. The international observers were heavily influenced by the NW Somalia diaspora. I even provided you with names of those who were part of the international election observer groups. All I ever said was that, I do not believe that if long line ups of voters turned up, there would be no video or picture taken, like the triangle. If the line ups were big in the disputed area's, their would be evidence of this. But pics and vids were only shown from the triangle, and you want us to take the word of international observers and their fact sheets for the rest the enclave? ( observers who are made up of and are heavily influenced by NW Somalia Diaspora) I believe that, if there was substantial voting taken in disputed area's we'd be flooded with pics and vids from it. But anyways, I am done with proving my point, you can go ahead and produce the poll numbers when the NW Somalia diaspora comes out with it what happened in Sool and Sanaag! I will give full credit to NW Somalia if they have a change in leadership which is done peacefully!