This news and the meeting with the President of Yemen is further evidence that Puntland is strengthening it's ties with their regional neighbours. Meeting Presidents of Ethiopia, Djibouti and Yemen. Puntland is known for being a safe haven for so many Somalis and for being a place that takes on criminals regardless of where they may be found. Unlike other enclaves who foolishly wish for recognition, Puntland has stayed loyal to Somalia's Unity.

Ayoub, I am just an observer like all of us. I have no connection to the government, so I am just giving you my opinion on something. I do not know the truth about this incident. One thing I am certain about is that it has brought a lot of attention to piracy in Puntland and how the government needs more help! Basically this incident has said to the world that the government tried to do something, but was no match and needs international help. The question is, why did Garoweonline report it so quickly, why would they mention something that was so embarrassing?

Originally posted by Qandali: The secessionists are in celebratory mood because Puntland minister was attacked Adeer nothing happened, the whole thing is a stunt very well pulled off, and to sell this headline to the world , you all fell for it. That is exactly what I am hearing. It had to do with the meetings in Yemen, in which they met with reps from different governments. Basically the message is "we are trying to do something against piracy but we need more funding". I am certain it worked though in terms of getting funding! But the possibility of back firing is also there. Since it might make the Presidents admin look weak! Not as weak as having 300 ONLF landing on your shores and crossing through your enclave untouched until Ethiopian forces stopped them, the same way they helped in Buhoodle months before that.

Originally posted by NASSIR: quote:Originally posted by Thankful: Actually most UN reports refer to Sanaag as Eastern and Western Sanaag. They actually warn people from travelling there as it is one of the few disputed regions in Northern Somalia. Even the U.S State department does as well. travel.state.gov quote: The Sanaag and Sool Regions in eastern Somaliland, bordering on Puntland (northeastern Somalia), are particularly unsafe due to ongoing border disputes and inter-clan fighting. Thankful, you can't even differentiate the U.S state department press releases on travel from the UN field reports? Sanaag has been the most peaceful region of Somalia This is what he UN says and let me point out they use the term Eastern Sanaag the most, they definitely differentiate between Western and Eastern Sanaag! UN MOHAMED SA'ID "ATOM" has engaged in acts that threaten the peace, security or stability of Somalia. ATOM has directly or indirectly supplied, sold, or transferred to Somalia arms or related materiel or advice, training, or assistance, including financing and financial assistance, related to military activities in violation of the arms embargo. ATOM has been identified as one of the principal suppliers of arms and ammunition for al-Shabaab operations in the Puntland region. He is described as the leader of a militia that emerged in 2006 in the eastern Sanaag region of northern Somalia. The militia comprises as many as 250 fighters and has been implicated in incidents of kidnapping, piracy and terrorism, and imports its own weapons, in violation of the arms embargo. ATOM has established his force as the principal military presence in the area, with a primary base near Galgala and a secondary base near Badhan. According to some information, ATOM is aligned with al-Shabaab and may receive instructions from al-Shabaab leader Fu'aad Mohamed Khalaf. According to the international community it is not one of the safest as there are many warnings of travelling to these areas and if you notice they mention the border area's, meaning their is a split between Eastern and Western Sanaag. British Government The Somali President declared a state of emergency on 22 June 2009. Insurgent activity and political tension remains high. There are ongoing reports of deaths and casualties in continued fighting in Mogadishu and in South and Central Somalia. There is also tension on the Somaliland/Puntland border in the Sool and Sanaag regions. Canadian Government Somaliland and Puntland Parts of Somaliland (a self-declared republic seeking independence) and Puntland (an administrative region in the northeast operating as a separate entity) have experienced relative periods of stability compared to the south-central part of the country. However, violent attacks on foreign targets, including workers and buildings under the auspices of the United Nations, continue to highlight the extremely unstable and unpredictable security situation. Such attacks have been reported in the Sanaag and Sool regions of Somaliland and the border with Puntland. Tensions and escalating violence in the south of the country could also spread to Somaliland and Puntland at any time

Originally posted by NASSIR: quote: quote: Puntland Minister Captured by Somali Pirates October 11, 20100 comments| leave your own! Share Heavily armed pirates blockaded the main road to the town, refusing the minister and his convoy to enter the city. According to local residents there was intense gun battle that ensued the blockade by the pirates. The minister and his convoy were accompanied by at least 7 battle wagons and dozens of armed guards. The minister and his forces were forced to retreat, eyewitnesses say. The minister was again ambushed in the town of Jariban 60km west of Gara’ad. At least 4 local people were wounded in the fighting, two of the Minister’s bodyguards were also killed in the clashes. Later, the minister and his guards surrendered to the pirates after they were encircled in the village of Sallah in Mudug region. The Puntland government has confirmed the clashes, however no one was able to elaborate on the whereabouts of the captured minister and his guards. Ali Yusuf Hosh, the deputy minister of interior blamed pirates from Puntland and southern Somalia for ambushing the minister and his delegation. Horseed Media The Pirates in Gar'ad and Eyl are of the immediate clan members of Faroole and his main financiers of the election campaigns. It took only the spirit of the Elders' recognized position and their traditional skills of negotiation that the minister got released. [/QB]Typical Nassir making things up, Gar'ad "clan" which is based in Mudug gave ALL their votes to Ilka-Jiir in the last elections. In fact Bari gave their votes to Faroole, so stop making things up as usual.

Originally posted by Qudhac: duke is having heart attack trying to put a good spin on all these bad news coming from the pirate enclave. mr somalia you not helping duke either.... that minister learned a big lessomn dont cross into rival cartels territory. Like Silanyo learned....don't leave the triangle, especially Sool and Awdal!

Actually most UN reports refer to Sanaag as Eastern and Western Sanaag. They actually warn people from travelling there as it is one of the few disputed regions in Northern Somalia. Even the U.S State department does as well. travel.state.gov The Sanaag and Sool Regions in eastern Somaliland, bordering on Puntland (northeastern Somalia), are particularly unsafe due to ongoing border disputes and inter-clan fighting.

Originally posted by AYOUB: ^^ Read about it here >>> “The pirates hijacked five trucks with nine people onboard and took them to their base in Garaad. They are demanding the release of their colleagues arrested recently by the Somaliland security forces,” Abdullahi Mohamed, a security official in Galkayo, said by phone. quote: Originally posted by Qandali: FYI, the said minister is not from Nugaal, he is even not one of the SSDF clans. He represetents the state and engaged with these last remaining strong hold of pirate bases in Puntland i.e. Gara'ad. The pirates have long moved away and run off from Eyl, even there is small number in Ga'arad, most of the pirates that operated in Puntland have moved to and joined the Harardhere group other have ceased their activities like Mr. Boyax who once interviewed by the CNN but now is living in Garowe as good citizen. Thank you very much for your info. Everyone now knows it's not about Clans but Cartels. Boyah and Faroole are now good law-abiding citizens. Soo maaha? PS Good night boys, thanks for the laugh. Again you are being reckless with the truth, these men were never captured by your forces, they were captured by international flotilla. If you see the link I posted to you from your own site it states that on February 14, 2010 your authorties convicted the men that EU forces gave then....and the truck drivers were taken on February 26 according to your thread you just providedl. Nice try though NW Somalia.org SOMALILAND: Somali pirates get 15-year sentences – officials BERBERA (Somalilandpress) — A court in Somalia handed out 15-year prison sentences to 11 pirates on Sunday, the presiding judge said. Prosecutors at the court in Berbera, in the breakaway northern state of Somaliland, brought a number of charges against the men, including piracy and attempted armed kidnapping. They showed the court photos obtained from NATO naval forces showing the pirates when they were arrested last December. “The trial, which lasted a week, was finally concluded today after the evidence brought before the court showed that the eleven were involved in piracy and hijacking. The court finally announced its verdict — a jail term of 15 years each”, Osman Ibrahim Dahir, the presiding judge, told AFP by phone from Berbera. The pirates were detained last December after they attacked an international naval force ship mistaking it for a commercial ship off the Somali coast.

Originally posted by AYOUB: quote:Originally posted by Thankful: They weren't pardoned according to JB, they were swapped for prisoners..... The point is; members of this hostage-taking cartel were apprehended by the SL Navy when they entered our waters. Released or swapped, they're your problem now. No No, you are mistaken or be reckless with the truth. These men were never apprehended by your "navy", they were handed over to your authorties after Foreign forces captured them, they were then put on trial and after a week were sent to jail. Do you think you guys are capable of locating a few men, when you cannot even find 300 at sea?

They weren't pardoned according to JB, they were swapped for prisoners.....remember JB admitted that your government negotiates with people they claim are criminals! Piracy Cartel, 571 Allah Amin Drug Cartel....Somalia needs to get to work and eliminate them.

It's kind of like the civil war you guys have when the Khat Drug Cartel 571 Allah Amin was victorious and now controls that lucrative business in Hargeysa, Somalia.

Maybe the pirate cartels can teach you guys how to keep 300 ONLF from landing on your shores and crossing the entire length of your enclave without being stopped!

The question is, if you can give other people shelter. Why hasn't your president left the triangle yet? You are in no position to talk about the minister being attacked when your leader hasn't left a small portion of the enclave you claim to control.

Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: you think we are like the pirates like your former tribal chief Mr tuute Muuse who stayed his entire term in bosaaso and not in his so called capital garowe because he feared tribal uprise from reer garowe so he decided to stay in his boosaaso his traditional territory Now let's go back to the topic when will this poor minister be freed Xaaji your are the king of making up false news. You were caught editing news and posting it. So now you are saying Cade Muse only went to Bosasso? Forget about Garoowe, he actually went to Lascaanood many times! RadioLascaanood Cadde muuse oo ka anbabaxay magaalada laascaanood Laascaanood 23 Sep 2006 Madaxweynaha DGP maxamuud muuse xirsi, cadde ayaa manta gelinkii hore ka anbabaxay magaalada laascaanood oo uu dharaarihii lasoo dhaafayba ku sugnaa. Madaxweyne cadde iyo weftigii safarka ku weheliyay ayaa, u anbabaxay magaalada garoowe ee caasimada maamul goboleedka puntland. I am saying that your leader Siilayno has not even once travelled outside of the Triangle, he won't dare go to Boorama. Show us one pic of him outside of the triangle. Sure a Puntland minister was attacked...but your president can't even tour outside of the triangle.....are you ones to talk?

Xaaji and other secessionists. Your leader Silanyo has not travelled outside of the triangle of Hargaysa, Bebera and Burao.....he's been in office for over 2 months. Most leaders tour their region, he knows if he leaves that area and travels to places like Awdal, he will be attacked.

This is unbelievable news, Puntland will now show these Pirates in Mudug that what happened in Galgala can be repeated. Criminals cannot run free like this. President Faroole needs to return immediately and solve this problem.

They are secessionists what do you expect....their President hasn't even ventured out once from the triangle! He is too scared! Even know Boorama he won't dare visit.

Sometimes I wonder about you JB are you really like this??? So if he is unwilling to take a picture, will he show himself face to face? If he is doing something that is just, why can't they bring forward just one single image?

Originally posted by NASSIR: he urges the leaders like Faroole and Gen. Ilka-jir to sit down with Sh. Atam and resolve outstanding issues. How are they suppose to sit down with him, he refuses to show a single photograph or video of himself. He will never sit down with anyone!!! You are calling for them to sit down with a man you are unwilling to show an image of!

Nassir can you provide us with an image of Atam?

If I keep hearing that garbage that Clan is everything! Wallahi anyone with basic historical knowledge would know that clans were invented and exploited by COLONIALISTS. The British (mostly but other Europeans have also) have been blamed for exploiting the most minor linguistic or physical difference - they would find out how people spoke and arm both sides to fight each other, threatening one group with the fact that they will help the other side destroy them. It was a way for them to pit one group against another or divide and conquer! It's sad that some raised in the west (like me) have fallen for this B.S. We were getting along peacefully before they arrived to exploit our resources! Look at Rwanda, Kenya and practically every African Country and read up about history!! You would think people raised outside of Somalia wouldn't think that way! You are just carrying the legacy that they planted generations ago,

If there is one thing this thread is proof of, is the powerful legacy that Abdullahi Yusuf has left in Somali politics. With both his supporters and enemies! Somali politics is boring with out him! You see the welcoming he received in Germany, France and other nations......has any Somali President ever been given that kind of a welcoming? No!

Originally posted by Xudeedi: Xaaji Xunjuf's argument is parallel to Thanksful's main stand on SOL, so why bluff? You attack many for clan sake, so as many solers, thus i don't think Xaaji is doing anything out of the ordinary. You are all defending yey for clan sake as they are attacking him. Seem's to me that the equation certainly cancells its self out. Waxaad maalin-waliba caysiin niman dhintay oo eebahood la jooga, marka nin nool la weeraray maxaad ula yaabaysaan. Xudeedi, you have this unhealthy obsession with clan! I think it's a way to avoid your flip flopping. Atam is a man that was forced to retreat in a day, now if he had clan support would that have happened? Attacking Atam does not mean people are attacking his clan, because he does not represent anyone but himself and his clan has refused to protect him! If they supported him, would he be in hiding? Get off this nonsense tribe garbage, no one cares about it. Xaaji is not attacking because AY is another tribe, he is because Abdullahi Yusuf humiliated Riyaale in Lascaanood and his government was too scared to do anything. He is pissed because Abdullahi Yusuf received meetings with world leaders from France, Germany and even spoke at the UN and after 20 years his enclave can't get 1 single country to recognize them or give them an official visit. I said it before Xudeedi, I am starting to believe that what you are doing is politically motivated so you can win the next Puntland elections. There is no way someone can speak so highly about Faroole and call him educated one day and support his victory and now say the whole admin is a tribe this and that. Right now people are preparing to have their candidates run and organizing fundraisers and other functions, I know for fact Gaagaab and Nuradin are.... you need to start to. Because we both know you will be back supporting Puntland, just like you did last time when you claimed Maakhir broke away!

I understand that Zack, but I honestly don't understand. How he can use evidence against him like Ethiopians. If Ethiopians committed crimes in the south, does he really want them in his enclave? Atleast attack a person for something that your government isn't guilty of as well.

Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: i mean how many old people did he kill with his Ethiopian friends. You keep mentioning the Ethiopians and the war crimes they committed. But when your government says nothing when they enter you land, why are you silent. If ethiopia did so many crimes in the south of Somalia then explain to me why you are not protesting your governments close relationships with them? Didn't the local community not free men in Boorama because your government was going to hand them over to Ethiopians, did they enter buhoodle and Adwal this year alone? It's simple, if Ethiopia is so bad, why are you okay when your government says nothing when they enter your enclave?