Thankful
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Italian Somali land or British Somali land.....either way we dont use terms colonialists gave us.
Anywho,
Hopefully I will see Somalia prosper from Oil and as a trade center because of our strategic location!
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Hiding from Somali Land?:confused:
Faroole was hiding from his own land? Why did he return to it then?
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President Sh Sharif says the country is not ready for a new president"The Country," If you were speaking of another country you would have said it by name!
I think deep down Xaaji knows his secessionist cause is hopeless! But he is in denial!
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Jacaylbaro;704971 wrote:Cabaadka jooji waaryaa ..........I enjoy when i'm reading about "separation of an Arab country" ........ Sudan was a success. Next please ??? .......
Those "Arab" countries have OIL....Sudan also! That is the reason why they are that way!
I love Suldaanka's articles, they are always meant to support NW Somalia indirectly, but then he'll try to convince us that they are not.
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Orrrrr, your news story is make believe! Evidence being that you are incapable of catching 300 people crossing land, how can you catch 6 men in a massive ocean.
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Wow, your militia is incapable of locating and stopping 300 ONLF crossing through NW Somalia months ago, but somehow you can catch 6 guys at sea.
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Jacaylbaro;704660 wrote:All what u need is to get their voice from previous speeches/interviews ,, then it is done.LOOOOOOOOL,
Jb you should take your show on the road! It's comedy GOLD!!! Can you imagine - if this technology was so easily available on the net for us - what governments and intelligence agencies have? We wouldn't be able to believe any speeches or conversations! All, those government officials that get caught talking about stuff could just use JB's excuse!!! All criminals who have been taped by law enforcement would just use the "voice changer software excuse" at their trial.
We should have SOL person of the year! JB's my early candidate!
(It's one thing if a website written by someone high on khat says this, but for any of us to actually believe this ridiculousness...come on....the scariest part is that I don't think JB is joking and actually believes this)
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Xaaji Xunjuf;704111 wrote:Not really Pakistan will open a trade office in Somaliland Hargeysa , and Somaliland will open a trade office in pakistan islamabad another step forwardas for Mark bowden atleast he is safe in burcoThe problem with your made up news is that only one side (NW Somalia) makes press releases. Do you have any Pakistani Government links that make this bogus claim??? Of course not!
Oh yeah, didn't Bowden only spend a few hours and left right away?
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He'll never go outside the triangle.
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Seems the Arab league (like the AU) are reluctant to see greedy western nations attacking a resource rich nation!
Arab League condemns broad bombing campaign in Libya
Video: The Pentagon held a briefing about operation "Odyssey Dawn." Vice Admiral William Gortney gave statement on the specific goals of the operation and took questions from the media. (March 19)
By Edward Cody, Sunday, March 20, 1:01 PM
CAIRO—The Arab League secretary general, Amr Moussa, deplored the broad scope of the U.S.-European bombing campaign in Libya on Sunday and said he would call a new league meeting to reconsider Arab approval of the Western military intervention.
Moussa said the Arab League’s approval of a no-fly zone on March 12 was based on a desire to prevent Moammar Gaddafi’s air force from attacking civilians and was not designed to embrace the intense bombing and missile attacks—including on Tripoli, the capital, and on Libyan ground forces—that have filled Arab television screens for the last two days.
“What is happening in Libya differs from the aim of imposing a no-fly zone,” he said in a statement on the official Middle East News Agency. “And what we want is the protection of civilians and not the shelling of more civilians.”
Moussa’s declaration suggested some of the 22 Arab League members were taken aback by what they have seen and wanted to modify their approval lest they be perceived as accepting outright Western military intervention in Libya. Although the eccentric Gaddafi is widely looked down on in the Arab world, Middle Eastern leaders and their peoples traditionally have risen up in emotional protest at the first sign of Western intervention.
A shift away from the Arab League endorsement, even partial, would constitute an important setback to the U.S.-European campaign. Western leaders brandished the Arab League decision as a justification for their decision to move militarily and as a weapon in the debate to obtain a U.N. Security Council resolution two days before the bombing began.
As U.S. and European military operations entered their second day, however, most Arab governments maintained public silence and the strongest expressions of opposition came from the greatest distance. Presidents Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua, Evo Morales of Bolivia and Fidel Castro of Cuba condemned the intervention and suggested Western powers were seeking to get their hands on Libya’s oil reserves rather than limit the bloodshed in the country.
Russia and China, which abstained on the U.N. Security Council resolution authorizing military intervention, also expressed regret that Western powers had chosen to get involved despite their advice.
In the Middle East, the abiding power of popular distrust against Western intervention was evident despite the March 12 Arab League decision. It was not clear how many Arab governments shared the hesitations voiced by Moussa. But so far only the Western-oriented Gulf emirate of Qatar has announced it would participate despite Western efforts to enlist Arab military forces into the campaign.
The Qatari prime minister, Hamad bin Jassem Al-Thani, told reporters Qatar made its decision in order to “stop the bloodbath” that he said Gaddafi was inflicting on rebel forces and civilians in rebel-controlled cities. He did not describe the extent of Qatar’s military involvement or what the mission of Qatari aircraft or personnel would be alongside U.S., French and British planes and ships that have carried out the initial strikes.
Islam Lutfy, a lawyer and Muslim Brotherhood leader in Egypt, said he opposed the military intervention because the real intention of the United States and its European allies was to get into position to benefit from Libya’s oil supplies. “The countries aligned against Libya are there not for humanitarian reasons but to further their own interests,” he added.
But the Muslim Brotherhood and its allies in the Youth Coalition that spearheaded Egypt’s recent upheavals took no official position, busy instead with Saturday’s referendum on constitutional amendments designed to open the country’s democracy. Similarly, the provisional military-run government took no stand and most Cairo newspapers gave only secondary space to the Libya conflict.
When the Arab League approved imposition of a no-fly zone, only Syria and Algeria opposed the league’s decision, according to Egyptian officials. The Syrian Foreign Ministry on Thursday reiterated Syria’s opposition, as diplomatic momentum gathered for the U.S.-European operation.
“Syria rejects all forms of foreign interference in Libyan affairs, since that would be a violation of Libya’s sovereignty, independence and the unity of its land,” it said in a statement.
Al Qaeda, which could be expected to oppose foreign intervention in an Arab country and embrace Gaddafi’s qualification of the campaign as a new crusade, made no immediate comment. This likely was due in part to the Qaeda leadership’s difficulty in communicating without revealing its position. But it also was a reminder of Gaddafi’s frequent assertions that Al Qaeda was behind the Libyan revolt and that he and the West should work hand-in-hand to defeat the rebels.
Iran and its Shiite Muslim allies in Lebanon’s Hezbollah, reflexively opposed to Western influence in the Middle East, also were forced into a somewhat equivocal position, condemning Gaddafi for his bloody tactics but opposing the Western military intervention.
“The fact that most Arab and Muslim leaders did not take responsibility opened the way for Western intervention in Libya,” declared Hassan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah leader, in video speech Sunday to his followers. “This opens the way for foreign interventions in every Arab country. It brings us back to the days of occupation, colonization and partition.”
At the same time, Nasrallah accused Gaddafi of using the same brutality against his opponents as Israel has used against Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza.
The Iranian Foreign Ministry, which previously criticized Gaddafi’s crackdown, on Sunday expressed “doubts” about U.S. and European intentions. Like the Latin American critics, it suggested the claims of wanting to protect civilians were just a cover for a desire to install a more malleable leadership in Tripoli and make it easier to exploit Libya’s oil.
Gaddafi has been on the enemies’ list of Shiite activists in the Middle East since 1978, when Lebanon’s paramount Shiite leader, Imam Musa Sudr, disappeared during a fund-raising visit to Tripoli. His fate has never been officially cleared up but Palestine Liberation Organization investigators determined that he was probably killed by Gaddafi’s security agents after they misunderstood an order from Gaddafi to “get rid of” Sudr and his pestering for money.
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I missed our secessionist brothers response and I couldn't agree more! Somali land is everything!! Insha'Allah it will rise again!
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You're just arguing for arguments sake!
My Objection???
Our best example is Iraq! The U.S using a multitude of excuses for justifying Saddam removal, from WMD's to liberating the people. Even though Saddam needed to go and the people had a right, the way it went down was not just! I think we know why they had their eyes set on Iraq for a long time. Also, the unknown hundreds of thousands that perished since the war began. Where now religious groups are being attacked i.e. the Christian population being almost cut in half as people have fled the county because of attacks and the fact that people can no longer live in diverse neighborhoods because of the same reason.
The bottom line is that foreign intervention will destabilize the situation greatly, just like it did in Iraq. And despite that fact that you feel a certain group of Libyans want to see Qaddaffi's removal, does not mean it has to be done by any means necessary. The way you get the man out of power is critical to how the country will look after he is gone and allowing greedy foreign nations with their eyes on oil is almost a guaranteed recipe for future suffering.
If Iraq is any indication, the AU is very wise not to immediately condone the plan of Western powers attacking Oil rich Libya.
You should let it go...
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Naxar Nugaaleed;703491 wrote:LOL, sick minds indeed. so all those Libyans fighting to overthrow a dictator are fighting to supply people with oil?The Libyans are fighting for freedom and the hopes to get rid of Qadaffi, their struggle is legitimate! The West however is fighting only because of the importance of Libya's OIL wealth!!! Does your common sense really tell you that the West is truly concerned about the potential massacre that might take place? Do you have any Idea how much Oil Libya supplies to Europe and other American Allies?
On the contrary to your gibberish. The very reason why the AU is quiet about the change which is led by the people in North Africa is symoblised by the current leader who serves as the President of the African Union. Teodoro Mbasogo came to power in Equatorial Guinea about 31 years ago, he himself is a despot and a dictator by all difinitions of the word. He commands neither any credibility nor legetimacy whatsoever to challenge the Libyan dictator to listen to the people and leave office.Teodoro Mbasogo is scared to death that sparks of liberty and people power in North Africa will reach his home and he would do exactly the same tactics employed by Gaddaffi to quell and put down any challenge to his despotic rule.What you think the AU is some kind of Dictatorship that is lead by him? That he has all the power and what he says is the final world?? The AU is a collection of African nations, regardless of what the leader chooses it is the majority that will decide!!! Europe has exploited African resources for centuries and this is just another example.
You enclave has everything to do with why you posted the article. With your own personal title "The irrelevance of the African Union", why are they irrelevant? I think it's quite clear your grievance with them lies with the fact they refuse to allow your secessionist agenda!
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The African Union has the courage to stay out of a war that is solely based on Oil (like always when it comes to Africa and the Middle East). Yet the secessionists are going to use it as a way to call them "irrelevant?" Just because they don't want foreign intervention to take place that can potentially destabilize the entire region, doesn't mean they are irrelevant. More importantly, just because the AU refuses to accept the illegal secessionist’s agenda in NW Somalia like every other country and international body does; doesn't mean you need to criticize them now.
The AU seems to know that France and the rest of the West are just defending their oil interests and have absolutely no concerns of the civilians! The West wants a puppet and useless government in place - like Iraq - that they can exploit.
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Somalina;701912 wrote:lol... you always have too much fun with JB's threads.They are legendary! One of the top reasons I come on the site!!!!
The delusions, even the so-called Foreign Minister and the stuff he makes up, that make no sense and yet actually believes people will fall for it. I want to visit the triangle just to experience this!
It hilarious and quite enjoyable........."NW Somalia inspires Egypt".....classic!
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Lol a month after it started!
I guess better late than never!
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Lol, we are jealous because their regional government announces that they are getting their so-called people out of Libya almost a month after the fighting started? When the rebels were winning their supporters were going around attacking anyone that looked black because they believe Qaddaffi brought them into Libya to fight them, but now things have changed the rebels are losing and it is only yesterday that NW Somalia says they are getting it's "people" out.
Yeah really jealous about that news! I think it is comical to be honest!!!!!
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Jacaylbaro;701884 wrote:just wait and see ???The answer you give to any question about your enclave for the past 20 years!
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Who's getting them out that makes me pissed?? I am sorry I only see Somalia in the UN's list of member states when I look at countries that start with S-o-m!
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Many sub-Sahara Africans who became stranded have been mistaken as being mercenaries by rebels and their supporters and as a result came under attack, many were beaten up, detained or killed.African Own I have no idea what you are talking about because you are from Somalia!!!
Anyways, the story is is ridiculous. Just because numerous western countries made announcments about getting their citizens out, doesn't mean your enclave needs to make up the same announcment almost a month later. Is it a way to get media attention?
The Somaliland government said it was launching efforts to rescue several hundred Somalilanders stranded in Libyaon Sunday.The statementencouraged Somalilanders in Libya and their relatives to contact the Ministry of Foreign Affairs on the following:When the rebels started advancing almost a month ago the news of sub-saharan Africans believed to be working for Qaddaffi were being attacked and killed, was all over the news, but its only yesterday when Qaddaffi has turned the tide that your enclave is annoucing they are getting it's "citizens out." Lol!
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LOOOOOOOOOOL
First it was the enclave inspiring Egypt and now this!!! Real nations did it weeks ago at the beginning of the unrest!
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The minister added that the meeting which was held this week in New York between representatives of Somaliland and Puntland and the TFG (Transitional Federal government of Somalia) was under the supervision of the United Nations, as he described that it was only to discuss the risks of piracy off the coast of Somalia.Discuss the risks off Piracy off Somalia? So why wasn't Kenya, Djibouti, Yemen and other nations that are in close proximity of Somalia involved? Or what about accepting the 2-track Policy with Puntland for Somalia? The so-called Foreign Minister - who has been proven to be dilusional - needs to realize that he says one thing but his actions are completely something else.
He can claim all he wants that his enclave is independent but he is clearly involving it in international policies and meetings that are meant for no other country but Somalia!
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LOOOOL, it's one thing if the courts closed it down, but when your regional minister does, you cant claim to be a democracy.
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Just ignore Xaaji, he and his secessionist media are trying to divert the topic away from the fighting that is taking place in Cayn and Sool. He likes to show off Siad Barre era weapons and vechicles that were left in the NW by the regime, but we all know what the SSC did to them!
When Atam comes out of hiding then talk about him.....but the SSC leaders are in the open and exposing the destructive ways of Siilaanyo....a man that has brought so much fighting in such a shot time in office.
The Scramble of so Called ‘SL' has begun
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You can declare that! And if you did, your Xaji Xunjuf state would have the same amount of recognition as your current enclave does....ZERO!
They'll be no difference between your Xaji State or Hargeysa's admin!