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Aslong as they are flying under the Somali Flag, who can complain!!! I find it interesting though last month when Somaliland encrouched on their territory it was the Puntland Admin that addressed the situation, and the leader of Maakhir was no where to be seen or more shockingly even heard from.
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Garowe, Puntland:Madaxweynaha DGPL ayaa maanta dhagax dhigay dhisme cusub oo loogu talagalay in laga dhigo xabsi weyn oo ay yeelato Caasimada DGPL. Dhismahan laga dhisayo Caasimada Garowe ee ah jeelka ayaa waxa iska kaashaday maalgelintiisa xukuumada DGPl iyo Hay;ada UNDP. Dhagax dhigan ayaa maanta waxa goob joog ka ahaa guddoomiyaha gobolka nugaal Cabdi Xirsi Cali,duqa degmada Garowe ahna guddomiyaha golaha degaanka ee Garowe,agaasimaha guud ee wasaaradda arrmaha gudaha,agaasimaha waaxda Maamulka ee wasaaradda arrimaha gudaha,agaasimaha guud ee Howlaha guud iyo gaadiidka,agaasimaha waaxda baratakoolka ee Madaxtooyada,saxaafada iyo marti sharaf kale. Dhismahan ayaa waxa loogu talagalay in uu noqdo jeel ay yeelato Magaala Madaxda Puntland ee Garowe,iyadoo jeelkii hore uu noqday mid yar kuna dhex yaala Magaalada dhexdeeda. Hadaba dhagax dhiga ka dib ayaa waxa ay saxaafadda weydiisay Madaxweynaha DGPl sida uu u arko dhismahan uu dhagax dhigay,waxaanu ku jawaabay waxaan u arkaa wax fiican waayo awal hore waxa jira jeel yar oo noqday magaalada gudaheeda,wuxuuna kaloo intaa raaciyey waxaanu jeelkan ugu talagalnay in lagu xiro dadka dambiilayaasha ah,wuxuuna ku dhamaan doonaa sidaanu ugu talagalnay in uu socdo dhismahani muddo 90beri ah haddii alla idmo. Intaasi ka dib ayaa waxa hadal kooban soo jeediyey guddoomiyaha gobolka Nugaal cabdi Xirsi wuxuuna mahadnaq u soo jeediyey Madaxweynaha DGPL Mudane Maxamuud Muuse Xirsi oo isagu soo jeediyey in la helo jeel ay yeelato Caasimadu maadaama kii hore yar yahay,waxaana loo dhamayn doonaa sida ugu dhakhasaha badan. sidoo kale waxaa isna hadal kooban yidhi Taliye xigeenka Ciidanka Asluubta C/dillaahi Maxamed Mire,wuxuuna mahadcelin u soo jeediyey Madaxweynaha DGPL. Intaasi ka dib ayaa waxaa iyana halkaasi ka hadashay Shamis Shaywaal oo sheegtay in ay jeelka hadda jira in ay ka soo qaadatay kaalin buuxda muddo labaatan sanno ah oo ay iyadu maxaabiista quudin jirtay,hadana ay aad ugu faraxsan tahay in la dhiso jeel cusub oo ay yeelato Caasimada Garowe ee Puntland,waxayna intaasi raacisay in jeelkaasi hadda la dhagaxdhigay in ay ka qaadan doono kaalin wax ku ool ah.
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Asmara: Poor Eritrea to kick out opposition groups based in Asmara --
Thankful replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
Iraq is completely different. Their leadership had the world’s most powerful army after them with a coalition of western countries. Even though they had the opportunity to leave and seek refugee with their wealth they stayed. The clan courts leadership fled the second they heard poor and third world Ethiopian tanks coming. Iraq did everything they could to avoid war and complied with every demand. The clan courts and their supporters wanted a fight and thought they could beat any force because they pacified Mogadishu and what happened in 1993. Of course the TFG is there because of Ethiopia no one can deny that. But everyday the TFG is becoming stronger. -
Asmara: Poor Eritrea to kick out opposition groups based in Asmara --
Thankful replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
You're right General. Those guys stayed in xamar sent young boys to die, students from all over the world. The second the ethiopians came to xamar they fled, even after they swore never to leave their lands. Also, the TFG is not being defeated by anyone. They are in MOGADISHU and there wasn't a soul on earth that thought it was possible in 2004, controlling all the most important life lines in the city. If it was so bad would AU countries be sending more and more troops and would the UN contemplate going? -
Good Points Naxar, Like I said before. I am telling you exactly what people on the ground there are thinking. They are sick and tired of these people from the west rushing back and running for public office. It's a fact on the ground there I advise you to go see for yourself. President Cade came in 2002 to fight Abdullahi yusuf, and won very narrowly by a few votes in 2005 in the elections against Hashi. He didn't rush there in 1998 when the state was formed, or in 2002 when Jama Ali Jama came into office. He came after that you know it and I do. He made a name for himself and did something unheard of and fought Abdullahi Yusuf(no one does that), what did Jama Ali Jama do? Because of his actions the people were forced to respect him and forgot about the time he spent outside the country.(he personally almost lost his life). He would never have had a chance of winning had he not fought Abdullahi Yusuf, NO CHANCE AT ALL. You are right he won because Faroole gave his votes to president Cade and this was because of his hatered of Hashi. But when Gagaabe got the the minister of Finance position under the current admin, (the same position faroole had under Abdullahi Yusuf, which faroole had expected to retain), this resulted in him changing his tone taking over parliament and being humiliated and sending his nephews to their death and ever since has tried to undermine the admin every chance he can. Finally, there still a lot of time before the elections and all I am asking people is one thing, WHO IS A PERSON YOU THINK WILL TAKE OVER? What's their names? If you can't name that, then President Cade will win again, people in Puntland wont allow what happened in 1991 to happen again so dont expect some war like so many wish for. Getting rid of Afweyne and having no one to take over taught them a valuable lesson. In Puntland they avoid war at all costs, they tried to negotiate, they'll keep President Cade in Power if there is no viable alternative like right now, you'll see.
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Baashi, I don't read articles by people who can't even sign their names to it. It's one thing if they are scared of arrest back home, but they are based in Australia. And yes, the owners of the portal's motives are extremely important when believing the article.
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Garowe Online is written by the sons of Abdirahman Faroole, the disgraced Puntland minister who tried taking over parliment and rob Puntland when he was finance minister under Abdullahi Yusuf. He wants to run from president and is waiting before he starts campaigning. These guys are obsessed with the whole OIL stuff, he has his own company in Italy he wants to bring. Expect a lot more articles of this nature.
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Somaliland should seek Iran and Russian support Until Somalis start realizing that no one out there cares about out situation we will remain always begging for something. Not just the tribes in the northwest but every corner thinks that people in the world actually care about us. The author of Black Hawk Down wrote that when he went to Somalia he was shocked how everyone there still though that Somalia was still huge news around the world and that the people their didn't realize it was no longer being spoken of. See with us Somalis we are reading all the sites and whatever news we can get about what's going on. But to the world they pity us, we look ridiculous. They can't imagine a place that has the same ethic group, language, religion and culture who are at war. What other African country out there is the same. Not even one country has recognized Somaliland and the only reason is because no one cares about it or anywhere else in Somalia unless it's so-called terrorism related, maybe the only way is if they find oil like in the Arab nations.
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My main point and only thing i'm trying to get across is this. Who is out there that you think has a good chance of winning the elections in Puntland. You have pointed out the problem with President Cade Muse and what is the alternative or solution? See I've been to Puntland for extended periods of time. They will never allow history to repeat itself. That is why the people complaining are coming from abroad. Most of all the people of Puntland will never allow what happened in 1991 to occur again, i.e getting rid of Siad Barre and having no one who can take over, REGARDLESS how bad it might have been under him! So like I said, who will win? Do you truely believe these people coming from North America will win who have no names? President Cade made a name for himself, who out there has a name?
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Oh please, President Cade Muse came to Puntland in 2002 to fight for what he believed in. He took on Abdullahi Yusuf in a battle and made a huge name for himself no one take Abdullahi Yusuf on, he then signed a peace deal and drove his militia into the State which many had never witnessed before. He was begged to run for president because people knew he had the best change. He won in 2005!! All these foreigners running back are coming back THIS YEAR, and are campaigning abroad. They haven't even been in Puntland for years and expect just to come back during an election year, are you serious? ANSWER MY QUESTION, WHO IS A VIABLE CANDIDATE, WHO HAS A NAME THAT WILL WIN? Go ahead and de-scredit the elections because you know there are no one else you can name that can win. If President Cade didnt' take on Abdullahi Yusuf in 2002, he would never have had a chance of winning.
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You aren't going to hear of people asking for President Cade to be impeached and at this rate he'll be re-elected. Everyone in Puntland can't name a single person that can take his place. All these foreigners from abroad rushing home during an election year dont have a chance. Who seriously will win?
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koora-tuushe - if you believe the admin is poor and there is someone better out there, they should run the same people that are complaining now were doing the same thing when Abdullahi Yusuf was president. And right now there is no one out there, people know the toll the defense of Puntland has taken on the economy. Second, lets be honest, reer maakhir and President Cade have a history together, way back when he first came to Puntland and had to retreat from Duudo where he was fighting Abdullahi Yusuf enormous force. Regardless of who's right and wrong, it is evident that there issues. They never wanted him and he may still remember.
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First off, everything has to do with tribe, Somalis hate to hear it. Look at this site, they post every little negative thing they can find about Puntland and every positive of there's. They only have love for their side!! Che, That is what i've been trying to get at, this is about exploration. They want to see what we have, every Somali has heard at one time or another that we have oil and a lot of potential. All this admin is doing is exploring to see if this is a fact or a myth. How will proceeds be split and to whom is not what they are looking for right now. The other lie that Puntland Government officals are behind the kidnappings and piracy are just baloney! This government knows that the only way to get this oil thing successful is with a stable state, why risk the potential oil brings with kidnappings?
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Kajdes, never mind what some from other regions might say (most complaining are from abroad and have no clue whats going on in Somalia). The Oil from what i'm hearing should begin in August, Nugaal has always been the most promising area even back during the dictator Siad Barre's reigh. There is full support amoung those in that area. Of course there are some from abroad who dont want to see it happen. Regardless, August is the month things should start rolling.
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Puntland presidential hopeful campaigns in Seattle
Thankful replied to Che -Guevara's topic in Politics
These guys will make it very easy for president Cade Muse to win again. There is no way that anyone coming from abroad in an election year can expects to win. There is already a litte hostility towards people coming from abroad and running for any government position. President Cade was in Puntland for over 2 years before he ran. He took on Abdullahi Yusuf and this almost cost him his life, something the locals respect him for. Because of that reason they let it slide that he came from abroad as well. There is no way he would have won the presidency had he not come to defend what he felt was wrong. Now these individuals are expecting to come in 2008 and run....who are they to the average person on the street? I'm not saying President Cade will definitely win, but no diaspora will be given the top job. It shocks me that they would try and come right now, you think they'd planned this for years and tried to help the people and get their names out. -
Hahahhaa, like your the leader of your tribal area doesn't use the terrorist card. Didn't he blame the executions of the foreigners on Al Qaeda, doesn't he show pics of people he arrested for being terrorists? Isn't one of your reasons to for independance so you can help fight terrorism. The best part about your leader riyaale is that he says we arrested al qaeda but then he gives them clemecy from death. My tribe good, your tribe bad right?
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Bosasoo, Garowe, Gaalkayo are virtually in a straight line, what the heck are you talking about triangle? Stop watching bbc/cnn and quoting what they say. But I agree with you.....let the people decide!!!
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Come on, it switched like 4 or 5 months ago and you brag as if you've had it for years, who's talking about 5 years ago, you didn't have it 6 months ago. My only issue is with your side saying in this thread that ina Hashi loss in Jan 2005 had something to do with it, that was over 3 years ago. It was habsaade and only habsaade that was the turning point and you know it. You can make him out to be insignificant but your leader sure invites and meets with him in your capital. You can't lie about the facts and think you're fooling anyone.
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Garowe,Puntland:Munaasibad aad u ballaaran ayaa maanta waxa ay ka dhacday xarunta wasaaradda horumarinta Haweenka iyo arrimaha qoyska. Munaasibadan ayaa waxa ka soo qaybgalay Madaxweynaha DGPl Mudane Maxamuud Muuse Xirsi,qaar ka mid ah golaha wasiirada,xubno ka socday golaha wakiilada, guddoomiyaha guddiga dibu eegista dastuurka, hay’adaha Caalamiga ah wakiiladooda,aqoonyahano,abwaano iyo haweenka Puntland. Munaasibadan ujeedada loo qabtay ayaa ahayd wasaaradda oo lagu daray qayb cusub,iyo soo badhigidiii waxqabadkii wasaarada ee sannadkii 2007 iyo qorshaha sannadka 2008 iyo weliba abaalmarino la siiyey shaqaalaha wasaaradda oo ku mutaystay shaqo wanaag. Hadaba markii uu soo gaaray Madaxweynaha DGPl xarunta wasaarada H. Haweenka iyo arrimaha qoyska ayaa waxa uu xariga ka jaray dhismihii cusbaa ee wasaaradda lagu kordhiyey kuwaasi oo dhamaa hoolka weyn ee shirarka oo la ballaariyey,xafiisyo,Biibito,Masaajid iyo qolka sugida nabadgelyada. Waxaana dhamaan xafiisyadaasi soo kormeeray Madaxweynaha iyo Madaxdii la socotay,waxayna noqotay mid faraxgelisay Madaxdaasi waxyaabihii ay soo arkeen ee laga qabtay wasaaradda Haweenka. Hadaba furitaankii xafladda loogu talagalay arrimahaasi aan soo sheegnay ayaa ugu horraynba waxa lagu furay Ayaadaha Quraanka kariimka ah. Quraankaa ka dib ayaa waxa hadalkii furtay agaasimaha Guud ee wasaaradda horumarinta Haweenka iyo arrimaha qoyska halkaasi oo ay ka sheegtay waxyaabaha loogu talagalay xafladan iyo ujeedadii laga lahaa,intaasi ka dib ayaa agaasimaha guud waxa ay ku soo dhoweysay Wasiirka wasaaradda haweenka iyo arrimaha qoyska Marwo Caasho Geelle Diiriye waxayna halkaasi ka soo jeedisay warbixin dheer oo dhinacyo badan ka hadlaysa haday noqon lahayd waxqabadka wasaaradda,dhaqaalaha soo gala wasaaradda,shaqaalaheeda kala duwan oo qaarkood mutaysteen abaalmarino isugu jira Gaadiid,Lacag,shahaadooyin,waxaana xusid mudan in halkaasi wasiirku ay ku sii sagootiyeen wasiir ku xigeenkii hore ee wasaaradda Cali Ciise Sugulle ayna wasiirku guddoon siisay hadyad qaali ah.sidoo kale wasiirku waxa ay sheegtay caqabado badan oo ka hor yimid intii ay wasaaradan ay mas’uulka ka ahayd oo ay dhamayd muddo labo sanno ah. Intaasi ka dib ayaa wasiirka wasaaradda Haweenka iyo arrimaha Qoysku Marwo Caasha Geelle Diiriye ayaa waxa ay ku soo dhoweysay Madaxweynaha DGPl Mudane Maxamuud Muuse xirsi wuxuuna ugu horraynba mahad ballaaran u soo jeediyey wasaaradda iyo mas’uuliyiinteeda oo runtii qabtay howlo ballaaran oo lagu faani karo,haweenka waa halbowlaha dalka,waayo maanta haweenka waa la ogyahay waxa ay qabteen oo had iyo jeer hoo iyo hiilba la garab taagan dalkooda iyo dadkooda. Sidoo kale Madaxweynuhu waxa uu ka hadlay dhinaca ammniga,kana codsaday shacabka reer Puntland in ay dawladda wax kala qabtaan,wuxu kaloo intaasi raaciyey in waqtiga hadda uu hartay dawladda ay tahay muddo 8deed bilood ah wax badana ay horyaalaan haday ahaan lahayd hirgelinta dimuqraadiyada iyo horumarinta mashaariicda iyo gobolka sool oo la xoreeyo waana la xorrayn doonaa ayuu yidhi sida ugu dhakhsaha badan.