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Need I remind you that a huge reason why President Abdullahi Yusuf is in Mogadishu is because of the elders that now reside in Mogadishu and people like Ina Qeybdiid, Abdullahi Dheere and now it is Nur Cade and before Geedi, Ina Aideed...etc? All thoughs people are influencial in Mogadishu and support the TFG. The TFG is the most diverse government in all of Somalia, and represents people from every region (there's your Somali brotherhood). Even the ICU who used the banner of Islam refused to share power with other people. Don't get me started on your Somaliland either.
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Naw keep me update exactly when he's coming, where he's landing. Hopefully it doesnt' conflict with some personal stuff. Emperor will you come and support your presidnet????
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General hopefully I can, keep us updated.
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Good pictures, there are video's on youtube showing major protest when habsaade took over, lets see what happens if Riyaale comes down.
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I heard this yesterday as well. Can't wait.
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My family own property in mogadishu, so many somalis do. Plus, i was in lascanood for the Garaads Caano Shuub in 06, IT'S ALL ABOUT TRIBES. Who are these pro-somaliland militia? Why was it habsaade that toured the city first?
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Believe me I completely agree with that. I wish we focus on Puntland an get our house in order, what the TFG is has done is impressive so i must give them credit. See it's a double edge sword, there is no way if we break up will anyone get recognition. Your leader went to Washington and they completely closed the door on him from joining and said go to the AU, as General Duke says, the AU is by far the biggest supporter and would never give anyone recognition. But you guys know just as Abdullahi Yusuf does is that with a recognized government can we get the funds to really build a society. To answer your question I don't make decision for Abdullahi Yusuf I can't doubt the man either he's accomplished so much, more then anyone ever thought. Mogadishu doesnt' belong to any tribe, it's the capital and many people from all over have land ownership there.
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He was in nairobi many people ran for the position and he won fair and square. Of course he makes sure that his government includes somalis from all area's and that the vice president is from the south!!! I dont understand what you are getting at! If you think Haabsade is not out there for money, which is why he switches sides every few years and he is just doing it for political reason....then you are naive.
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1)everything is about tribes, back in the day the rebel groups against Said were made up of tribes, today each region is! 2) You have a city for 5 months after we had control for 5 years and now you are telling us to forget about it lol, are you serious? 3) The same elders who are being paid to come to hargeysa today, were yesterday trying to kill the same president of yours riyaale and chase him out of their lands?
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Who's talking about a union? I've been to Somalia many times (including hargeysa) and I can tell you there is no hope of a union. No tribe wants another tribe to have power over them. In every region there is one dominant group that makes all the decisions(and they dont want anyone taking an inch).(the only way i can see union though is if a man comes who's will to sacrifice himself for change, who cares nothing about tribes and works with all). I just find it funny you speak of democracy and that the people voted and now if they try and vote again they will be arrested lol. The people voted right, so why was Riyaale kicked out of lascaanod and has never gone back? No one cares, look at how many pro union people write negative Somaliland tribal articles or fake news feeds(very little) and then look at how many of your people write it about Somalia. All day long Somaliland this, Somalia that, come on now.
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You dont get it I guess, it is never ever ever ever finalized!!! People can vote for another path if they feel they want a union again. In all those countries the topic still hasn't been closed and there are those for and against union. That's how democracy works, it's the power of the vote. You can't say we were independant, voted join the union, then voted to break away and that's the end. Anyone who tries to vote to join again will be arrested, because they are destabilizing the country. THAT'S NOT DEMOCRACY.
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Congrats
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Canada,, Serbia or China will never allow some group to hold a meeting and declare a war on the country You're government warned anyone in 2004 if they went to the TFG elections they would be arrested. You refuse anyone who goes to any type of union meeting will be arrested. Even if it has nothing to do with war. That's not democracy, Canada had a referendum and let the people of Quebec vote. Although China has threaten war if Taiwan left, there are parties and indivduals that call for it to break away. You're government arrests any citizen that goes to any sort of meeting.
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We announced anyone who attended the Boocame conference will arrested Which is exactly why they'll never be recognized. What democracy out there doesn't allow people to attend conferences? Do you think Canada arrests the numerous people that attend pro Quebec secessionist meetings or Serbia arrests people who were meeting for kosovo's independence? Heck does China arrest those in Taiwan calling for independence? Give people the fear of prison and then call yourself a democracy. Keep pitching that to the AU.
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The reason Somaliland hasn't been offically recognized by a single country is because they are a clan state and are dominated by one tribe who calls all the shots. Lets look at the make of your ministers and parliament lol. Armchair, when Riyaale ventured into Lascaanod he was chased away within hours, then they lost control for 5 years. All of a sudden they have it for 5 months and act as if they have had it secure since day one. Area's like LA/Buuhoodle will take money from both sides but take orders from neither.
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Berlin: Meet your new Ambassador to Germany: PICS
Thankful replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
Masha'Allah amazing pics, the TFG is becoming more and more powerful by the day. Everyday anarchist speak about the TFG being close to collapse, something they have done with every government, but these pics are proof of how little they know of the situation. As for the Secessionist this is by far their biggest fear, they give us articles that their leader was given an official welcome but never any pics of it. In four years the TFG has accomplished so much!!! Great pics, we need more. -
What if they are waiting for an attack during your continuosly postponed tribal elections? Or maybe they are waiting to see if Riyaale has grown enough balls to venture back to that city and repeat the same humiliation in 01?, He's probably still having nightmares.
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I'm not saying it's false or true. Just that when pictures and video are sent out of men, women and children in the middle of physically pouring sand and kicking a dead body whether it is 93 or 08 no one can dispute it!!! Me personally, I just questioned a lot of information and see different motives behind the news.
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Well I didn't realize it was a "satirical piece". Especially after you said the source was African-telecom news! After reading some of these articles I’m not sure what’s serious and what’s not. Anyhow, back in 1992 when the United Nation forces came, Aideed sent out propaganda claiming that the foreign forces were there to "burn the Quran and make them slaves". He had people believing that, by no means am I saying that those forces were there for the good of Somalia or should have been there in the first place. But you saw a calculated effort by a warlord to influence his people with negative news so he can get them on his side. He also had his people mutilate and kill Pakistani soldiers and ordered his fighters to drag bodies through the streets, he knew this would grab the world’s attention and influence them in leaving. Back then the claim was that the people were enraged and furious and what was happening and were acting out of desperation. Yet now you see this exact same thing happen 14 years later with TFG fighters and Ethiopian soldiers being dragged and poured with sand. The people doing this are fully aware of their actions and are trying to achieve the same results in of 1993. These images are being sent out to the world right? So until you produce powerful images of the same kind, of the war crimes you are claiming are happening to your side, nothing will happen. So to answer your question, I think there are people low enough to spread fake news that will influence more to join their cause, they've done it before and people are aware of their motives, which is the reason it is not working.
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Is hilarious what Somalis write about each other and sad (and everyone is guilty of it). If you went to Puntland or spoke to anyone you will learn that President Cades tribal land is the most least developed out of them all. Are these the same news agencys that claimed that President Abdullahi Yusuf was slapped? Who brought a lady and claimed she was raped? That said Ethiopians vandalized a Masjid? When will the this negative propaganda cease and people will back up these claims with FACTS? Not just what some dude wrote somewhere. Inside sources claimed that Cade Muse received a million dollars and 500 high class Somali Camels as a token for his efforts in helping Ethiopia fight religious extremists. Inside sources....yeah right!!!!
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If everyone held the same passion for your tribal state as you do, i'm sure you would have had recognition a long long time ago by atleast one country.
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Garowe,Puntland:Madaxweynaha DGPL Mudane Maxamuud Muuse Xirsi iyo wefti ballaaran oo uu hoggaaminayo ayaa maanta ka dhoofay garoonka Konoko ee Caasimada DGPL ee Garowe. Madaxweynaha iyo weftigiisa ayaa ku sii jeeda dalka Itoobiya gaar ahaana magaalada Adis-ababa. Weftiga Madaxweynaha uu hoggaaminayo ayaa waxa Garoonka Konoko ku sii sagootiyey Madaxweyne ku xigeenka Puntland,guddoomiyaha Gobolka Nugaal Cabdi Xirsi ,wasiiro iyo xildhibaano. Madaweynaha ayaa safarkiisa waxa ku weheliyey wasiirka wasaaradda Ammniga C/dillaahi Siciid Samatar,Wasiirka Howlaha Guud iyo Gaadiidka C/dillaahi Cali Xirsi.Taliyaha Ciidanka Daraawiishta Puntland G/sare C/risaaq Sh.Cismaan,agaasimaha Guud ee wasaaradda arrimaha gudaha Cali Yuusuf,Taliyaha Pis Cismaan diyaana,agaasimaha hay’ada astaynta maamul wanaaga Siciid Faarax Yare. Safarka Madaxweynaha ee dalka Itoobiya ayaa ah safar shaqo,ka dib markii uu Madaxweynuhu ka helay casuumaad Madaxda sarsare ee dalka Itoobiya. Madaxweynaha iyo weftigiisa ayaa muddo todobaad ah ku maqnaan doona,halkaasi oo uu kulamo kula soo qaadan doono Madaxda itoobiya.
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I guess everyone has a way of doing things. But many were suprised that there was no statement put out, even if it was something as simple as stating [as you claim] that nothing occurred and there was no move made by them. By Puntland responding it made them look incharge of the situation and the region. Silence is never good when it concerns security.