Oodweyne nice to have you back, the secessionsts were a lost cause without u! I want to ask you what your opinion is of this picture. For all the talk of independence, this seems to be tangible evidence that many in the NW are coming closer to their brothers. (credit for this pic goes to SOL Nomad Fiqikhayre investigative work) JB's had nothing to say and actually tried to claim the picture was photoshopped, certainely I know you won't resort to that.

Probably because of this article Qaar ka mid ah shacabka ku nool Puntland oo Madaxwayne C/raxmaan Faroole ka dalbay in uu is-casilo http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2011/Jun/wararka_maanta26-14009.htm or more likely this one because it was done in English Puntland President Asked to Apologise for Deragatory Comment http://www.hiiraan.com/comments2-news-2011-Jun-puntland_president_asked_to_apologise_for_deragatory_comment.aspx Faroole and son might have let the first article slide, but not the second.

So now the secessionists will politicize someone converting by doing it at General Morgan's old home. Interesting.

“We are hoping to gain a better understanding of our aims in the near future,” he said, without providing further details . Now that's how a foreign minister speaks. Truely the words of a so-called doctor.

If the system is a farce (as you say), it has made Puntland one of the most peaceful regions of all of Somalia. Which is why you are seeing similar administrations being developed in many other places.

I think criticizing is a fair, in that it obviously will give someone the ability to improve. I believed that a president travelling to other parts of Puntland is very important. We know why someone like Sharif can’t leave Mogadishu. However in Faroole’s case, he hasn’t been to Gaalkaayo in so much time. He has spent the majority of time in Garowe and we are fully aware that the capital of Puntland is his “stronghold.” Other Puntland leaders have been to Lascaanood, even went to the very most eastern points of Puntland to inspect the damages from the Tsunami, let alone everywhere else on the road. I agree that he has paid civil servants, but considering he has not built a single piece of costly infrastructure that would benefit the entire population as whole. I don’t see how hard it would be to pay civil servants if someone is not building anything else. I also disagree, that the security forces are stronger now, because we have seen more targeted killings of government officials then ever before, even during the fighting with the ICU. Now ever single minister and low-level government officials is required to travel with numerous guards, something that was never needed before. (Secessionists stay out of this, because Faroole has still travelled in his first year in power, far more than Siilaanyo has in his one year. Plus, we saw how much security he needs during the day just for Hargeysa, so, I suggest you start the healthy criticizing).

This is why no one can touch JB's record in number of posts.

AfricaOwn;728976 wrote: women rights? lol, wtf. I wasn't talking about that. No need to bring that up. Prove a link between human released Co2 and the temperature variations and my man, I will sit down after that. Look, all the evidence in the world will not convince a conspiracy theorist; because they do not think rationally. You are asking me to dispute a man who thinks of women as inferior to men! Also, watch the video again; Bloom is stating that "scientists" say that the earth is in fact cooling and that the earth is not getting warmer. I gave you tangible evidence of the Arctic receding! The most respected scientists agree that man-made CO2 has contributed to global warming. The Kyoto protocol was back by scientific evidence that specifically asked that countries help limit global warming. Why would the UN come up with this protocol to which many countries agreed to limit four greenhouse gases (CO2 being one of them) if man-made C02 was not contributing to global warming? Let me guess since the industrial revolution and the mass consumption of resources, the atmosphere hasn't been adversely affected?

The man has backwards views on women rights! I agree science is too high to ponder for some! Simply looking at the Artic and it's incredible loss of countless glaciers and permafrost, where now some countries are able to have their ships travel through areas that were unthinkable a few decades ago. I guess the whole Kyoto Protocol is another scam right!

Faroole has Puntland firmly under his control. Not a single one of the most popular websites will rarely if ever criticize him (like Duke has), because as rumor has it, he has paid them all off: Horseednet, AllPuntland, Puntland Post and a few others; and the rest of too scared of imprisonment. Forget about Eastern regions, has not visit Gaalkayo in almost 2 years, and Bosasso maybe only once in the same amount of time (only to fly out shortly after). He makes sure money goes to his interesets and thus he has parliament securely under his control. I highly doubt anyone will contest him when he runs once again for Puntland President in a year and a half. If we had democratic elections where it is one person, one vote then maybe it would be a different story!

LOOOOOL :D But wait Global Warming? The secessionists can't count on Godfrey Bloom to back them on this because this is what he thinks about (man made) Global warming. It is not the first time that Mr Bloom - who represents Yorkshire and North Lincolnshire - has courted controversy with his comments. He has argued that man-made global warming is a myth and praised the sinking of the Greenpeace ship Rainbow Warrior in 1985, in which one man died.

Suldaanka;728943 wrote: ODI is one of the most influential and respected organisations in the UK and Europe. Here is the link for more information Overseas Development Institute (ODI) I read the link and the information from "one of the most influential and respected organisations in the UK and Europe" and this is what I read. Consolidating authority in the Sool and Sanaag regions and relations with Puntland: State control in these contested regions remains limited, as evidenced by conflict in October of 2007 in the areas around Lasanod (Bertelsmann Stiftung, 2009). Local authorities are seen to appeal to both polities depending on the specific issue in question and their own perceived benefits. Resolving these tensions will be further complicated by continued competition between the two polities for livestock exports from the ports at Berbera (Somaliland) and Bossaso (Puntland), particularly to Saudi Arabia now the ban has been lifted.

Suldaanka;728945 wrote: Well, one would expected that from an Administration whose leader was on the record as claiming the people from that region of Ethiopia are no Somalis at all... they just so happen to know how to speak the Somali language. Didn't someone from your enclave claim that NW Somalis are closer to a person in Addis then they are to someone in Mogadishu? Didn't Siilaanyo try to send a couple suspected ONLF to Ethiopia after 300 had crossed through, but was stop by local people in Awdal?

This is the topic! The individual you quoted and placed his picture on a post is a man that has been criticized for thinking like it was the 1950s (colonial times). Mr. Bloom is not a credible person because he holds views (like women rights) that are contrary to what British and the rest of Western world stance’s are. Do you think a man with views on women, will be listened to on Somalia’s secessionism? Simply put, Mr. Bloom does not think like it is 2011!

Indeed Mr. Bloom is seen as a stone-age thinking individual when it comes to women's rights. His stone age thinking is obviously not only with women, which is why his views on secessionism in Somalia does not match what the British Government states. UKIP MEP in row over working women Godfrey Bloom Godfrey Bloom: 'I am going to promote men's rights' A Euro MP for the UK Independence Party has sparked controversy hours into his first day in the Strasbourg parliament. Godfrey Bloom was given a seat on the European Parliament's women's rights committee on Tuesday. But he told the media: "No self-respecting small businessman with a brain in the right place would ever employ a lady of child-bearing age." A range of fellow politicians were outraged, saying his views were terrifying and outrageous. Mr Bloom, an investment fund manager from York, told journalists he wanted to deal with women's issues because: "I just don't think they clean behind the fridge enough". "I am here to represent Yorkshire women who always have dinner on the table when you get home. I am going to promote men's rights," he added. After widespread criticism on his comments on Tuesday he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme on Wednesday his comments were "said for fun" to illustrate a more serious point. He said equal rights legislation was actually putting women out of work, adding that MEPs had "little or no business experience" and did not understand the consequences of their actions. He said: "It is no place of Brussels and Strasbourg to come in between an employer and an employee. "They probably in quite good faith put in a piece of legislation which is designed to protect women in the workplace but what actually happens is it... writes them out of employment." The original comments provoked a strong reaction from Labour Euro MP Glenys Kinnock, who said: "We know UKIP are Neanderthal in their attitudes, but it is absolutely terrifying that Mr Bloom can fly in the face of what we have worked and fought for, to establish equal opportunities and rights for women." 'UKIP time machine' She said she will be keeping an eye on him: "He cannot strut around here saying things like that." Liberal Democrat MEP leader Chris Davies said: "It looks like it is time for a ride back to the 1950s on the UKIP time machine, to the golden age of women's rights and opportunities. Independence and Democracy is a new parliamentary group of hardline Eurosceptics It rejects the EU constitution and the "centralisation of Europe" It says it opposes xenophobia, anti-Semitism, and discrimination "UKIP look set to prove themselves as a recruiting sergeant for the pro-European cause and all the measures taken by the European Union to promote equal opportunities." The leader of the Party of European Socialists, Poul Nyrup Rassmussen, said Mr Bloom's remarks were "outrageous" and "absolutely unacceptable". Mr Rassmussen added: "This is about equal rights. You cannot have the right to fire people because they are pregnant. "It is not acceptable that employers should callously take account of whether women might get pregnant. We will be following up Mr Bloom's remarks." Mr Bloom is one of 11 UKIP MEPs - a massive increase from the three MEPs the party had in the last European Parliament. They joined 730 others from 25 nations at the parliamentary building in Strasbourg on the first day of this five-year parliament. UKIP aim to bring "Britain back from Brussels" and ultimately want the UK to pull out of the EU altogether. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3912205.stm

They will use the excuse many do, that they were doctors but lost their documentation during the war.

Xaaji what you said in this post is different then your last. The Ethiopian FM in his comment said that your secessionist goal must be accepted by the TFG. In fact he used Sudan as an example, and said that in his government’s opinion your independence cannot be decided by the Hargeysa admin alone. So, with what he said, (you and I both know that the TFG will never sit down and accept secessionism). The Ethiopian FM statement shows that he gave you a route to independence that would never happen. The Ethiopian will never accept a strong independent nation in Somalia, whether it is the TFG or a secessionist group. They want Somalia to remain exactly how it is right now, weak and divided. We are not a threat to them at all, whether it is militarily, economic or even when the ICU was around. Whether it was the U.S or any other nation, each says that it must be decided by the AU and the AU says it must be agreed upon by the TFG (like in Sudan between Khartoum central government and the Sudan People's Liberation Army/Movement). Siilaanyo is fully aware of this, and this is why he has included his government members in dealing that involving Somalia. Like the Nairobi conference and the World Health Organization Summit.

Xaaji Xunjuf;728749 wrote: The Somaliland police was already there national army just arrived today from oog to assist the police because there will be reconciliation conference in widhwidh on the twentieth of june inshallah. Will the "National" President be there?

Why aren't the secessionists responding to this?

Xaaji that is not true! The Ethiopian Foreign Minister made it clear a few months ago that your secessionist’s ambition must be decided by Somalia's government in Mogadishu. Please don't try and deny that he said that, just like in South Sudan. Ethiopia will never accept an independent NW Somalia, who will be able to raise the price on using the port. Do you see how much trouble Eritrea gives it? It will keep Somalia exactly how it is right now; a divided pawn that they can manipulate.

It's fascinating that once Somalia's forces were so feared they went deep into Ethiopia. Fighting Cubans, Soviets, South Yemani and of course Ethiopians. And now some celebrate when their leader give's our young men "military" awards. Even those that support secessionism celebrate this, despite the fact that Ethiopia has rejected it and stated that the TFG must decide on NW Somalia's dilusion.

You asked this Xaaji, Xaaji Xunjuf;728256 wrote: Nassir one question who is his arch enemy though. So I thought I'd answer it! If Puntland and Dhahar are part of Somalia, then any clan based secessionist movement must be an "arch" enemy.

Well considering that we can all agree that Dhahar does not want to be part of a secessionist agenda, than logically the hargeysa admin must be.

The correct title should say "President Axmed Siilaanyo goes for a little walk without bodyguards in the pics" So the guy is walking around and you are telling me that such few people in such a big town came up to him? Who was holding back the crowds? One thing is for certain though, Siilaanyo did this because he knows that he is building a reputation of being scared to travel anywhere.

welcomed back Home +PICS How misleading, these pics are from triangle celebrations a few weeks ago. Amazing how Ethiopia still trains us ever since the fights against Siad Barre's regime began.