I see more diversity in that picture among leaders from different regions in Somalia, then I do in NW Somalia's Hargeysa admin. Look at the trip to South Sudan, the so-called FM and president resembled a family trip.

Jacaylbaro;733178 wrote: You better start praying God to let u live & witness that day ........ I don't mind even if you die of the shock Wow, when I see your health minister or finanace in a meetings with other "Somalia" leaders a couple of months ago, I have no clue how you possible think the way that you do. But then again, you are the only person who'd actually be delusional enough to say the picture was photoshopped. No one else would resort to such a ridiculous defense. Regardless all you have left to say for the last 20 years is....."just wait recognition is around the corner"

loooool, hahah. This site would be boring without the secessionist’s contribution! lol@ "don't worry about how,".......the true talk of someone that does not think rationally. The results have been zero!! Once a single country openly supports your aspirations then claim results.

Jacaylbaro;733160 wrote: Obsession .... this is when I know the recognition is just around the corner Loooooool, if only all of us saw the cup as half full. But anyways, I am pretty sure that every country and governing body has made it clear. It must be done through the AU and the AU has made it clear that just like (Oil Rich) South Sudan, it must be a decision that is agreed upon by both sides.

Oodweyne, I agree I find your writing to be confusing sometimes, and have to skim through much of it when I feel a headache forming. As General Duke has showns, and like this BBC artice has done (and I am certains others will), they have grouped together all of the current Somali leaders. As there are no differences. Was is wise for Siilaanyo to attend, who knows. But I do not believe Riyaale would have attended such an event, and would have sent his so-called FM instead.

Oodweyne, so you think Sharif and Faroole just showed up to crash the party? Like the president of Sudan didn't invite them? The BBC has reported all three leaders in this above article, because to them there is no difference. Siilaanyo know's this as well, because attending any fuction that includes both Puntland and TFG leaders will mean that his enclave will be grouped together with Somalia's delegation whether it be by the media or other nations. Mr. Freedom, Pics of what? Taking photo's with leaders and ministers from other nations? They probably take pictures with hundreds if not thousands of people. Siilaanyo shaking hands means nothing. When your leader arrives somewhere and your secessionist flag is flying at the airport then you can talk.

Oodweyne, the thing is that Riyaale use to avoid any kind of function that involved the TFG or Puntland as if it was a life and death matter. Siilaanyo on the other hand is the complete opposite. He realizes how pointless it is to be asking for recognition.

I hope one day! Siilaanyo would be a good president of Somalia.

Siilaanyo includes his ministers in meetings where they are representing Somalia on an international level.......Riyaale never did that!

Xaaji Xunjuf;732726 wrote: Ku dayo ku dayo ku dayo Mujahid Siilaanyo;) I agree, only if all our leaders had the love for Somalia as Siilaanyo!

But the date for the article says " Table: The World's Happiest Countries Francesca Levy, 07.14.10 , 05:00PM EDT This was before Siilaanyo (Somalia Unionist) started implementing his policy of including his enclave in Somalia's international meetings. Nonetheless, Somalia or Somali land...what's the difference? Confusion is understandable.

AYOUB;732439 wrote: That's not what others think; Others? Who are they (NUSOJ) based in Mogadishu, or AllPuntland and unnamed government officials??? There has been no talk of him by the government or courts of being deported, he has already be unjustly sentenced to 1 year in prison. Which I am certain will be reduced in a month or two. Let's say things change and the government tries to deport him, then we will see similar things occur that happened in Awdal when NW Somalia's government tried to deport those two men we talked about earlier.

Amoud university in the background, It's images and video's like this, that have made the secessionists completely unsuccesful in gaining a single country to support their secessionism.

Awdal Somalia - where the worldwide demonstrations against secessionists began:

Awdal, Somalia - the uprising of the youth!!!

That is not how "generals" travel unless the area is hostile and they are fearful of being attacked. I think it's obvious that if someone has true control of an area they wouldn't need gunmen.

There won't be any violence???? But the man has to (allegedly) entered the town in a so-called "military convoy?" If the people were so happy to see him, why does he need a militia? You actually think after 20 years, news of needing militia convoy's to travel to places in your so-called country is going to help your recognition cause? Please!

AYOUB;732165 wrote: So you have no idea, but you just feel like arguing by changing the subject. Everyone except you know what folks are considered "Somali-speaking Ethios" by Imaam Faroole. The word is the journo belongs to that clan, that's according to certain portals. I have no idea what you are talking about because he has already been sentenced to 1 year in prison. There has never been any mention of him being “deported.” Plus he is a citizen of Somalia, Faroole's wrong view is not based on tribe, but the ONLF supporters. AYOUB;732165 wrote: I know your allegations and I've already told you, Djibouti sent the folks you talking about back to SL and they've not been deported anywhere. http://somalilandpress.com/djibouti-hands-onlf-driver-to-somaliland-20464 All three truck drivers were initially arrested during clashes between the ONLF rebels and Somaliland forces backed by Ethiopian troops near the Marmar mountains, a region bordering Ethiopia and Djibouti. However during a massive demonstration in Borama, Mr Odawa was able to escape with the help of friends and family. He has been on the run ever since. Djibout sent them back, but the men were freed after massive demonstration in Borama, the demonstrations were a result of the men being threatened of being sent to Ethiopia, people erupted and his family freed him because of this. Why did the people have massive demonstrations if he was initially going to spend his sentence in NW Somalia? The men may be in one of Siyads Barre’s old jails now, but your enclave will not dare sent them away after what happened last time they tried.

Mooge;732156 wrote: that is what you think, but it is not the truth thankful. this socalled reporter lied about troops and if the lie is great enough to cause great harm he will be questioned. this has nothing to do with president. I respect your opinion, but I don't buy what the government is saying. This has everything to do with the article the reporter wrote which said people want faroole to resign; even the courts case outlined this. Also, “Al Shabaab dumped the beheaded bodies along the road and dressed them in military uniform, to scare the public,” said one terrorism analyst. http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/publish/Somalia_27/Somalia_Al_Shabaab_terrorists_behead_two_civilians_in_Puntland.shtml This quote is from Garoweonline, Faroole is saying that the people that were killed were in military uniforms, so why is the reporter sentenced for 1 year because he reported that they were soldiers? He made a natural observation and reported it. Whether they were civilians dressed in uniforms is one thing, but according to garoweonline they were in military uniforms, thus the reporter’s piece was understandable. In my opinion, the true reason he was sentenced is because he reported that people want Faroole to resign.

AYOUB;732155 wrote: Waa markaagii. Only I mentioned the deportation probability. Sometimes you do behave like Imaam Faroole. Why would the reporter be deported to Ethiopia, because his tribe resides in a certain area? I have no idea what you are talking about when you mention deportation. I admit (sadly) it occurs when it is "suspected" ONLF fighters are caught, but both secessionists and Puntland have been guilty of this. This man has already been given an unjust 1 year sentence. Just like the horseednet reporter was. AYOUB;732155 wrote: That was the allegation. The men are in Somaliland as we speak. Ironically, the men ran to Djibouti only to be deported back to SL. I am speaking about what happened less then a year ago when 300 ONLF crossed through Awdal untouched, your Hargeysa admin tried to send two men to Ethiopia. The Awdal citizens had to crash their car into your militia's car and free the men. Plus, are you actually going to say that the hargeysa admin hasn't sent Somalis to Ethiopia? AYOUB;732155 wrote: Well even if the Pirates were better, that's neither here nor there. The issue is; is the journalist a citizen of Somalia? Does Imaam Farooole have the right to deport him to the Ethios - if he is? Why do you care? Because when your regional government sends Somalis to Ethiopia you are quiet. So why pretend that you are concerned now?

The beheading report wasn't the only reason, because this reporter made a report stating that some of the people of Puntland wanted Faroole to resign. There is speculation as to who the two murdered individuals are, Faroole says they were civilians, Atam supporters say they were Puntland spies and others believe they were Puntland soldiers.

Out of all people secessionists are commenting on deportation to Ethiopia? Wasn't it the citizens of Awdal last year that had to free two men from the hands of Hargeysa's militia because thay were about to be sent to Ethiopia? The secessionists track record in sending people to Ethiopia is no better!

Xaaji Xunjuf;732064 wrote: Akash why is Awdal state still touring Holland , awdal state is in Holland but not in Awdal why is that? Ah that flag was first shown on the streets of Awdal! The youth in Borama who were carrying the flag are the ones that started this world wide rally. There is no need to show you the video or pics!

Oodweyne thanks for the reply, it was informative. You said: However, I believe that the Somaliland's minister in that meeting has "erred" in the wrong in here (and that is if one gives him a large dose of a benefit of a doubt). And, in my opinion, although Somaliand needs the health assistance of the WHO, but, still I believe that once he realized that the WHO are determined to "embarrass" Somaliland's government with their particular seating arrangement, then, he should of simply walked out of it. And, once, he done that, he should of then proceeded to create all manner of "ruckus" in the lobby hall where the meeting was taking place, preferably from a good spot that is not far away from the media's earshot, so as to "maximized" the discomfiture of the WHO. And, of course, as a way of returning the "favor" (with a trenchant volley of his own), particularly, to the WHO's high apparatchiks who dreamed up this thing in the first place. To begin, It seems that you are blaming the minister for the seating arrangement. However, don't you think he must have been pre-authorized by Siilaanyo or the VP to attend this meeting in the first place? It's not as if he attended on his own accord, because surely he would have been fired or reprimanded for doing so. Also, to my own knowledge he is still your Health Minster, which means the government has not objected to him. Let’s say for arguments sake that you are a country – then the minister attending this meeting and sitting where he did would do a huge disservice to your national interests, especially if you are seeking recognition. The magnitude of this meeting is huge in my opinion. First, because the health minister from your region was part of a delegation representing Somalia (Puntland included) and he was under the Chief Delegate who is the minister of Somalia (TFG). This to my knowledge is a first for your enclave, especially on such an international forum. So to clarify, it seems that for a “country” to claim they have been independent for 20 years or so, this surely is tangible evidence that counters those claims. Again thanks for the informative response!

Xaaji, I know the pictures hurts but you don't need to get involved with this. I understand the thread is about educaton, but lets be honest the thread is rubbish and I figured i'd ask the head of the secessionists on SOL opinion on something. Again Xaaji, the question wasn't directed to u.