Baashi, Don't you have better things to do brother?

Taqwa, And thank you for that intelligent contribution to this topic!! :rolleyes:

double post :cool:

Originally posted by Qac Qaac: men are weak, that is the reason why woman wear hijab, see men doesn't wear hijab coz the women would not rape every guy they see, they are more controlled, lol I thought men were supposed to be the stronger sex? Now it seems women are more controlled? hmm... In any case, Men being weak is a socially learned thing when it comes to sex. You have been trained to think that way. When a woman walks in front of you with a short skirt, are you going to behave like an animal and rape her? because she was wearing a short skirt and ASKED for it? no hon, thats not a likely story. Truth is, majority of the women get raped by family members, family friends, friends, etc..someone close to home. No woman runs around at 10 pm in the park. Pls, bruh! The problem: men "learn" to be weak. Solution: educate them

Baashi, What part of "I don't practice the mahram concept" do you not understand? I don't have to tell you what 4 scholars I follow, as there are many scholars that existed after the 4. Now, I would like to see you ask ALL the people that disagreed along with me asked the exact same question. **shaking my head**

Double damn! :eek:

rudy, why don't you think this issue does not concern "xalimos" right now?

Freedom and injustice (in this case, rape) is two different things. Yes, women should be able to exercise her god-given freedom to earn income and practice religion. You don't need the west or the east to "give" you these personal freedom. Having a career does not increase "rape", contrary to popular belief. The problem is not that women have too much freedom and therefore leads to these "rapes" but that men still have that mentality that raping women is acceptable to them. Infact, the actual problem is that men feel this way when they shouldn't be. The solution should be to "fix" this problem. Even if Islam is the solution, women still get raped by muslim men. And majority of them are raped by men who are related or are family friends. Therefore, being muslim still does not change the mindset of these sick individuals. Needless to say, exploitation of women's bodies does exist in this society. But that is no excuse for men to be raping women or even thinking about it. one

lol@you guys Some of you are too funny! Kheyr, don't you have anything better to do than play games? and what about the people who are sending me PMs to "inform" me. Seems to me that more people are responding to this thread for entertainment purposes only. I think some of you are arrogant and self-righteous. I say this is the most nicest way possible. You come on here and tell me (and not others who take on different views) I am wrong and this is what I should be doing instead. Did you see me at one point telling your pompous arses that you are not behaving in an islamic way. But then again, S.O.L. is known to osterize those who they think don't belong here. Nino Brown, I agree with your copy and paste: "Most hateful it is with Allaah that you say that which you do not do” [al-Saff 61:2-3] I suggest the ladies that were busy being concerned about my life ..focus on yours! Ps: I find this thread quite amusing. Shows the ugly side of S.O.L. members

lmai

Good for her **two thumbs up**

Mobb Deep, I'm ok. The real question is: are the rest of the S.O.Lers ok? I am deeply concerned about their REAL reasons for being so volatile towards me. Go figure? :confused:

Originally posted by Baashi: Opinionated is absolutely right on one thing: she has a choice of embracing Islam in its entirety or embracing it on the basis of what makes sense to her. If she chooses to accept it in its entirety then she is a sincere Muslim and her shortcomings stem from ignorence. If she engages 'pick and choose' exercise on the basis of what makes sense to her wishy-washy feelings then may Allah show her the right path. All Muslims, including me, are expected to accept this religion in its entirety. Any willfull and knowingly deviation from this expectation amounts outright rejection of the religion. First of all, stop being so condescending. It's beneath you! Second of all, (this is getting abit tedious) again you are mentioning my deen and telling me I don't have one. But here is a question for all the females here, DO YOU TAKE YOUR MAHRAM WITH YOU EVERYWHERE YOU GO? if not, well, then you must not be a muslim (according to baashi) because you dont practice it. and Baashi, do you lower your gaze when women pass you by, I hardly doubt it! so do not sit here and tell me what I should be practicing to make you believe that I am muslim..because frankly, I dont care whether you think I am jews, christian or a budhist, you are just making yourself look bad. But now you know she is in need of more of the Islamic basics and not the legal details, I suggest u to give her the benefit of the doubt as u would with any other person who have difficulty in discerning the meaning of the Tawhid. I think you are the one with the difficulty understanding brother. Go and re-read my previous post cuz I dont feel like repeating myself. From what I gather, she is intelligent, inquisitive, and shrewd Muslim lady. Given time, I'm sure, she will reach an unavoidable conclusion that one can not deny or disregard an Islamic directive and the sametimes be a genuine Muslim. [/qb] and were the four scholars not a genuine muslims with differing views on issues? hmmm...I could be wrong here..and arent muslims today in different sects? I could also be wrong here! thank you for the character assessment by the way. Look at the way you all are behaving, and you call yourselves muslim, ha?

Opinionated Walaashiis.. looks like you fell prey to your egotism due to an utter ignorance, you basically view the all of the SOL nomads who replied on this thread thus far with contempt and consider their views as something superfluous and worthless, but obviously you are oblivious (or pretending to be) of the fact that your opinions towards Maxram have no basis or Daliil. I never held anyone's views as worthless, unless you mean to tell me that disagreeing with someone is "superfluous". You see people who’s eyesight is weak use eyeglasses to see better, And people who are balding use rogaine, what is your POINT here? I suggest that you learn more about islam and resort to an analytic examination of your attitude. Just carefully and vigilantly distinguish your true capacities from deceptive and harmful tendencies. Uhmm, your overuse of "big" words compromises the point you are trying to make. Easy on the thesaurus, buddy! One of the renowned SOL nomads (not sure whom it was) was telling us here in SOL about how she eye witnessed tow Malaysian students she knew been ran over to death by a car in their way back home from Taraawiix?!! Have you ever thought that could happen to you? With the exception that you are mouthing off words that like these >>> yes, and I am sure you are a saint. Brother, word of advise.....Stop making yourself look like the fighter of the deen ok..and let people believe what they want to believe. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: what's with the character assassination? I still think its about the phone

Originally posted by underdog: sides if you're all tough and can handle anything and everything this world can throw at you, you don't need a man to do anything for you. And since you're independant and self-sufficient I'll save my services for a woman who needs it and can appreciate a man that will take care of her. I'm looking for a woman I can provide for and protect. Someone who completes my skills not competes with them. Why don't you just adopt a child if you want someone to provide for who is unable to do it for themselves?

Rahima, I want to thank you in two accounts: one, for trying to "save" me and two, for telling me that I have committed a sin! I have to make one thing clear here, since I see some of you taking my postings out of context. Lets start over...here is what I said: 1) I disagree with the mahram idea. Sue me! I will forever fry in hell because I don't want men escorting me everywhere I go. Now, you can say I am an insignificant human that will never be at the same level as the local shiekh, but I do know one thing...that Allah (s.a.w) gave me a head to use and a Koran to read. Because I choose not to have a mahram, My deen is questioned, my character is attacked and my screen name is overly analyzed by S.O.L.ers who have it in for me for no damn reason. Because I "claim" to be a muslim, I don't have to believe every half-baked information other people who are supposedly more knowledgeable give me. I still have to do my own damn research. Excuse me for being a critical thinker because I believe in my faith so much. But you are not the only self-righteous person I have crossed paths with..nor do I think you will be the last. With that said, your comments did not faze me, just made me realize that some people do not do their OWN research and will follow popular belief. I do have a right to express my opinion just as you have thoroughly expressed yours. However, do you see me questioning or even being concerned about your faith, your deen and your Islam? Do you see me coming on the internet telling people to repent because they have sinned to the nth degree? Are you God or something, how do you know if someone committed a sin or not...thats not for us to even judge. This is supposed to be the Islam thread. That means people discuss different issues and different views. But I completely forgot this was a Somali website, and home to one of the most judgemental, narrow-minded folks out there. Sorry to ruin Y'alls day...but as long as this website is up..I will continue to input on issues! Repent, ha!

Hibo, Hon, they are intimidated because outspokenness is not a feminine quality in our culture (There is a difference between being just loud or speaking your mind). Don't worry, you will weed out the bad seeds by intimidating them out of your life.

Hitting kids is not the only to discipline them, contrary to popular somali belief.

lol who cares if they are jewish? does it really matter?

Taqwa, Thank you for telling me what I should be doing. But God forbid someone else has a different view from you. Even the "beloved" 4 scholars had different opinions on different matters. As for me taking my name literally..I made the name up 2 years go, it is only people like you who concentrate more on the name than on the statements..... Darman, Ha iga acuudu bilaysan walaal because I have not committed a sin. Dont be mad cuz I didnt want to talk to you Somalis :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Conscious and Khayr, How about the day the pigs fly!

reminds me of dhag dheer. Those silly germans!

Originally posted by Rahima: Sister opinionated without any of us resorting to personal attacks, the point is simple and the issue can easily be solved. The general rule is, if a person claims to be a Muslims (i.e. one who adheres to the Islamic faith) then they MUST believe in all that is sanctioned by the religion, whether it is to their liking or not. This is Allahs religion and He has perfected it and most importantly there is no place for mere mortals to bring in their “opinions” on designated matters such as the maxram. If one was to dispute on the technicalities of the maxram issue that would be one thing, but to deny its total existence after knowledge (for ignorance would be a different issue) is to deny Islam basically. Like I said sister opinionated, don’t take it personally, but this general rule would apply to every similar situation irrespective of the parties involved. You either believe or you don’t, it is that simple. If you are mildly suggesting that I am not a muslim simply because I don't see it your way....then I feel sorry for you. So, let me shut up and follow everything I am told so I can be a muslim in your eyes.

heheheheh khayr is looking for a wife! unbelieveable!

Darman, you are wrong indeed. No one is blinder than the one that doesnt use his head. If you made that comment to suggest that I don't want to see what all of u are seeing...then you are sadly mistaken. I do already see, I just choose to disagree :rolleyes: :rolleyes: