What does that thread have to do with this one? Mobb deep, Grow up man!

Dawaco, What do you mean when you say western civilized? Do you mean the western culture or the non-islamic culture that exists in places like the united states? It is possible to be a good muslim and very westernized. One thing I don't understand about some somalis (especially some on SOL) is why is there such hostility towards people who aren't traditional (according to the standards of people back home or westenized? I mean were we all born from the same mold manufactured from the same plant and came with a "How to Be A Somali According to Somalis in SOmalia" manual? Tradition is good, but lets keep our individuality at the same time, eh?!

Being 20-something is really not that bad.

You forgot a 6th type of nomad: Those who spend all day making silly and ill-categorized lists to sort people.

Originally posted by Mobb_Deep: oh how did I miss this post. What is worse than opinionated's little comments is that when people disagree, some dudes (maybe admirers, maybe friends) come to her rescue as if this is some kind of a popularity contest on which hero can save her best na'mean. I'm sorry but I can't help but laugh at that comment. You aren't entitled to like my posts or comments but you don't have to disrespect me with comments like that. How old are you anyway?

This seems like an insufficient conclusion from my post. A very negative one at most. Originally posted by Baashi: it reminds me Ashcroft and his Big Brother apparatus’s line of reasoning. Ameenah, People do expect me to have an anti-islamic view on every single issue because of the mahram post. So whenever I post anything else, they automatically take the defensive....and my name and/or logos seem to be making quite a fuss these days. This is getting pretty old, if you ask me. Lets be grown ups and stick to the topic at hand and not digress, k?! Originally posted by Ameenah: Perhaps people have assumed she was attacking Muslims because they expected her to – Underdog, go read up on posts you have made within 24 hours. That might clear up your memory a lil.

Bashi, You can have your own opinions. But it is people who are constantly putting words in my mouth and taking my posts out of context. That is mainly why I post more than twice in any thread. My posts are not confrontational but merely my input into the topic. Sorry it is not to your liking but I am here to just voice me. I rather not have people put words in my mouth. Exactly where am I paranoid in this post? because I said we have few bad seeds that need to be dealt with in our community? When I say community I am talkinga bout the greater muslim community. It was underdog I believe that said things along the lines of tapping phone lines and some BS like that. This is what I do not appreciate from this forum. People who have different ideas or bring different opinions to the table are often treated as outcasts(for lack of a better word). All I said was..we need to deal with issues within our community..all you have to do is debate THAT issue. Trust me brother, I ain't mad....just annoyed at people nitpicking my posts and deforming what I say constantly and consistently! (case and point: underdog claiming that I am a homosexual at another post) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by underdog: Show of hands, how many people think the term IN DENIAL is a good match with our sister Opinionated? Playing devils advocate is cute at first, but Who are you? and What do you stand for? and this how you prove your point....lol You guys are more stuck on abstract things about our religion, scarying the bejesus out of everyone instead of focusing the implementation of deen into our daily lives. It seems as if critical thinking and reasoning is not applicable in this forum. How many times has this topic been discussed in this forum? You should do a search and bumb the old topics about the same thing instead of wasting net space. :cool: Darman, you just follow the crowd, don't you? Form your own opinions, brother

Happy Belated Birthday, hon!!!

Underdog, Once again you are seeking me out because? This must be like the 4th post that you targetted me only..hmmm...are you trying to repeat the "mahram" thread or sumthing? :rolleyes: lol Somalis, I swear!!

Bee, An identical case happened in toronto maybe like 3 years ago. Apparently, its the norm?

Originally posted by underdog: I'm not sure how you're suggesting we weed out this terrible evil. How about we go to the mosque and start watching everybody see who thay are what they do. tap some phones...wait that guy looks fishy someone call homeland security. You can't police your faith and the faith of those just like you. You shouldn't let suspicion take a hold of you like that. Maybe as I asked in the previous post, you have a clearer image of what going on and you know who the bad guys are. If you do, do something about it. If you don't keep your nose out of other peoples lives. Its hard enough trying to get by without having our own sisters suspecting us. Now why do you have to go and put words in my mouth? Yes, I do believe we have some bad seeds in our communities and they need to be treated not encouraged. Whether you believe that or not is up to you. As for having your "own" sisters suspecting you, why? do you have something to feel guilty about....stop undermining my posts all over SOL, brother. Bashi, you are just too funny! really!!

Underdog, I focus more on the spirituality of our religion than worrying and scarying myself and others with the last days of the earth. If your a good muslim, then you have NOTHING to worry about. But brother, did your attention now shift from my name opinionated to my signiture? Please, lets stick to the topic at hand and GROW UP :cool:

So true sade.

LMAO

Che, My post wasnt meant to be confrontational but to point out that you put all the somali westerners in one categories that are very stereotypical. As if to say that we are not good enough for the "true" somalis. All I am saying is I beg to differ. :cool:

I thought this site was about LOTR? In any case, what is the point of this thread? to scary people .... C'mon now, I rather not know of these things!

Good for him! Somalis should follow his lead and get involved in their prospective communities. :cool:

Socrates, It's aight. Trust me, you did not offend me that MUCH.. Darman, :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Glad you are enjoying it Tamina...drive back safe!

If you are actually denying the existence of terrorists being bred all over the world...then you are just as ignorant as them. Unless of course you agree with them. And I am not talking specifically about the palestinian suice bombers..I'm talking about al-quida and such groups who claim to be the soldiers of god and yet claim the lives of innocent civilians. Yeah, those "fundamentalist" terrorist...and its a shame the rest of the muslim community isnt doing anything to stop them. I've said it and I guess it makes me like "them". Besides, I am merely stating that these racial profiling is blasphemous...and that it is these so-called muslims with "keys to paradise" are to blame for them. They think they are doing us justice..but look at what they did to muslims abroad! peace in the middle east

Truly sad reality of this so-called democratic states. What is worse than them is the actual terrorists living amongst us, claiming to be practicing our religion and are continuously giving us a bad name!

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: Well old man, I can't afford to forgo reality even for second, and I don't subject my ideas upon anybody ( Atleast I try not to). What drives me to came here is to see how the nomads in da west evolved, and observe the many characters here, da old nomads, Hip Hop gangsta wannabe, da feminists, da so called intellectuals, da qabiilists, da plain dumb ones, da fadhi ku dirir, da religious fanatics, da funny folks, self rightous people, and da sarcastic ppl. Da fun part is watching da these characters interact, argue and reason. What inspires me to write?.....Well I just write something whenever iam feeling sarcastic, or some thing I don't agree with is being said in politics section, even though lately I don't go there anymore since Slanders n Planders took da fun out da place. Of course, I only try write in my free time. Well bro, if I may ask, what inspires you to write? So what is your solution brother, since somalis in the west have "evolved" into these characters that you described above. Do you suggest that people in west should still conform to those abroad in the old country? That we should all be the same, have the same views, talk the same, dress the same and there can be no room for individuality. Do you suggest we shouldn't discuss and fight for our rights in order not to be called things like "westerners, feminists", do you hold us in such contempt brother? Maybe we should be like the folks back home...even if we ain't back home and the chances of going back home is slim to none...hmmmmmm...

Haniif, are you saying that no muslim country can be challenged for violating human rights and that the muslims who disagree with certain policies of the middle east are apologists? Then I guess I am one since these countries don't represent me at all. They are just another human being that practice the same religion as I do. I don't care too much for their politics. Haniif, if you are telling people that you shouldnt have to explain islam to non-muslims..then you are just turning away future muslims. You are portraying the image that Muslims are arrogant, pompous ******* who are full of hate! But you know what that really makes you? Someone who does not know the true reason why we have to do things that we do...you are not appreciating the true beauty and intelligence about our religion. SO yeah, if someone asks me why certain "muslims" behave the way they do..I simply tell them the truth!! By the way, when you are talking to your boss, do you say "you are a kafir" to him ? hmmmm * *

LMAO..