Damn qaxootis :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Somali hostage threatened with beheading Al-qieda has gone too far!

Originally posted by Feebaro: Now this sister didn’t look at the fact that this guy agrees with her point and he is even giving her more knowledge of her diin. Actually the brother was telling me that msoques are basically men's club because of a hadith that states you got extra ajar for praying at home. I asked him to give me a directive from the Koran, as every good muslim should ask and he didn't respond back. I don't take knowledge from heresay on the net, brother. That's just not logical. Ayoub, At the beginning, a sister made reference to the mosques in the U.K.. Unfortunately, it seems that mosques in my neck of the woods are not that advanced. Aeryn, At Eid time, the mosque attendance quadruples, and is in no way a representative of what the mosque is like on regular days. In Canada, we rent out huge halls for that because no regular mosque can hold the overflow of people, even if you have 3 separate prayers.

Feebaro, You must be suffering from a bad case of fever. But if it will make you feel better, I've worn dirac about 3X in my life. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: oh crap! That will only make me see anti-somali. Will this never end.....!

I never was fond of macaawis, but to each his own. Just b/c its a Somali thing doesn't make it cool though IMO.

^ I don't see any moaning and whining, but its nice to know that's what you think when people are discussing a topic. I don't appreciate you playing on the stereotypical feminine emotions here Ngonge. I will reiterate that this is a discussion.

Originally posted by NGONGE: Yasmine, still splitting hairs I see? Just before you go can you please tell me that you’re not seriously trying to argue that women go to mosques in huge numbers? (In any part of the world). Actually, Women don't go in huge numbers because they've been taught that its not "obligatory" therefore, their presence is not required at the mosque. Don't put the blame on feminism. That battle for women's rights was happening during the prophet's time, and it sure is still happening today.

One flaw to the story. The female circumcision started in ancient egypt, not Somalia. But again, nice way of placing the blame back on women

There was a topic exactly like this. Do a search and bump that topic up.

Thanks to everyone who replied to this topic. Its funny though that not one man stood up and said what majority of the women here are stating about the realities of the modern mosque and its accomodation towards women. This is not a feminist issue. It's simply an issue. Mosques should be central to our community, right? Where the local muslims gather, pray together, socialize, initiate programs for that community. If there are no space for women in the mosques, what does that say about the community? That they are leaving women out. Yes, some mosques are integrating women more and more, but the issue here, some are not! I know what the nearest mosque is like where I live, and as a woman I would feel awkward even going through the entrance, and it shouldn't have to be that way. To salafi, Thank you for stating that women get LESS rewards for going to the house of ALLAH. Too bad I've never read a quran verse that said that. What if a woman wants to be the best muslim she can, and go to the house of Allah to pray or to make taraweeh.....we should kick her out because obviously she should be in the house right? makes alot of sense. But then again, not everyone is a Salafi! As for the source, sorry, I look for content and facts...and if this happens to be dirty laundry for our community, then its a sad shame that someone not muslim had to air it out, because we simply can't.

Originally posted by Qac Qaac: Sue That proves why u messed up. One thing about me, i think i am related to DA... damn. Qac Qac, Stop insinuating things. Or I will have the admins on you for slander. We got that straight?

Originally posted by Qac Qaac: quote: Walaal, you seriously got ISSUES with MEN. I agree with u Khayr, u couldn't be more right on that statement. DA may allah give u nice man, who change all ur negatives to positives. also bro Khayr soon DA will learn that MEN are not attracted to confrontations, instead it just makes them flea away from ur way. so sis a sincere advice from me would be, don't be so confrontial all the time, u r not spokesman ooops i mean in ur case spokeswoman for all the woman. relax chill have a nice tea. and look for ur nice guy who would change all ur misfortunes into fortunes ok, and live happily after. stop acting like a semi-man and speak for yourself.

Originally posted by Khayr: quote:Originally posted by Devil's Advocate: When you talk like that, you make your posts less credible! Just keep on yapping.. You know if its SUNNY outside DA/OPI, you would say that its CLOUDY and that a LIGHTING is about to strike any minute. Walaal, you seriously got ISSUES with MEN. :eek: I apologize on behalf of my Domineering Gender, whom sometimes takes WOMEN for granted and mistreatments! Inshallah, you find someone that can turn All your Past Negative Experiences into Bright and Postive ones in the future for you. Now lets get back to the Topic not the Personalities! I belong to alot of forums, and this seems to be the only that I'm advocating for the woman's rights. Maybe it's certain posters in here who continue to make deragatory, mysoginistic and hidden views of women. And since this happens to be a discussion forum, those posters feel more inclined posting their insensitivies to their counterparts. Even you suggesting that I need a man to change my point of view is sexist. Wait, everything that you say is sexist as well. And actually, its partly cloudy in my area Don't feel bad because I called you out.

This issues are not separate, bashi, I totally disagree. If there is a lack of accomodation for the female facilities in one mosque, then your budget theory will fly. But if its a wide-spread problem like this (even in the remote west virginia) one wonders who the owner of the mosque was trying to accomodate......men first. Hence, it does become an equality issue. And viking over there is using our ability to bleed every month to justify lack space and general comfortability one should feel at the mosque. Imagine trying to listen to a qudba, but you can't see or sometimes hear the Imam? Some women are choosing not to go to the mosque, not because they are not obligated to, but the passive way in which they are told that they take the back seat of the bus. And its really not about men and women co-mingling in the mosque, as you have suggested.

Originally posted by Khayr: Now if the phrase 'OPEN MINDED' conjures up postive images, then why does it conflict with the idea of RELIGION??? IF you know the REASON/S, then please share with us nomads. Fi Amanillah Speaking of contradiction mr.khayr, evaluate your posts on other threads, especially those with sexual remarks and the derogatory ones. How "religious" is it ?

Viking, First of all, even though its optional, women choose to go to the mosque to pray. Obligation or not. Our menses should not be brought up as it is a private woman issue that you don't have the slightest inclination about. Even though a woman is experiencing menstruation, she can go to the mosque and listen to the lecture. Now that that's cleared up, in your post, you are pretty much downplaying a woman's right to go to the mosque or rather that it is a man's mosque and women are just welcome to come. That is a sad mistake brother, as the mosque is the house of God, where everyone is equal in his eyes. How did you see the women's side of the mosque? Did you go when it was populated, or when no one was there. As for sources, I found nothing wrong with the article, but I can see why muslim men and some women would be pissed to see a non-muslim speaking on something that so few muslims can bring up. Sheher, Max female capacity + the children!

Originally posted by Curly_Sue: Me?! Erm…well not many people know this but I’m actually not human. I'm from another world, but I come in peace. Good to see your kind and our kind getting along *lol*

Originally posted by Seven of Nine: OH DA ! You really got yourself into hot water this time..what are you implying? That my mother, or grandma or poor old gr8 nana were involved in some hanky-panky extracurricular activities? :mad: . . . . But im a spitting image of my father.. :confused: . . . oh No..not dad's mum.. :eek: . . . . BUT ... she was sheekhad! :mad: TAKE IT ALL BACK DA :mad: ... immediately lol, girl it aint even like that. I mean waaaaay back in the day...not past few centuries! And it was a joke but I see I hit a nerve, so I take it back :-(

Originally posted by Ameenah: No , Not all mosques anyway. Are mosques different in your city? Where the facilities are similar on both sides...and no one has complaints? I've seen mosques in three different cities, and it's pretty much the same theme...but maybe its just a North American Phenomenon?

When you talk like that, you make your posts less credible! Just keep on yapping..

^ maybe you do. We did use to trade with the chinese in the past .......

viking, It's great to hear your opinion, but I'm here to discuss the validity of this article. Are mosques women friendly? The reason I posted this was because I know quite a few girls who feel uncomfortable with the mosque situation. Have you ever been to the women's side of the mosque? do you know what conditions are like on that side? Why are the entrances located on the side at some exit door, while the men have the main entrance? Why are the facilities smaller, even though it is the women who usually take the kids with them (and in this case, it should be the same size as the men's side if not bigger)? Why do the men congregate outside of the mosque (especially near our neighborhood) and literally hunt for a wife after prayers? These are REAL issues, hence why its in the debate section. But here you are arguing about the authors motives for the story........

Muslim Women Seeking a Place in the Mosque Comments?

I have a damn cavity! I'm ready to pull the damn thing out myself :mad: