bump... C'mon guys, are you telling me you are just in classes all day?

In fact some of nomads questioned her sincerity, her somaalinimo, marriage, Islam and even made fun of the way she wore her GARBISAAR - totally missing the big picture. People still do that here...to other nomads

^this must be the little sister talkign then. OG, please tell whom ever is writing for you to stop insinuating stuff about me, particularly the "just exacyly what DA trying to do here" comment that you can't seem to account for, 'k?

^Because you used my screen name. and I would really like to know "what I was trying to do"... do you have an answer for this.

This is a sad thread. Really.

Originally posted by OG_Girl: Is your choice but remember they always highlight your mistakes and give the way suits to them.. just exacyly what DA trying to do here If I'm "still" talking to the right OG, can you explain this comment?

Originally posted by Alisomali: Many Somali women were raped and are being raped in Somalia with the civil war and all. Then there is the unsafe conditions in African hospitals. That's not the only way to get AIDS.

^ OG, I will respond to your posts from now as soon as I know which "OG" is typing back. either that or..... Lets just leave it at that.

^ lol I saw, and I let it be!

Article says: "Dirie's sister and two cousins died of complications arising from circumcision." And yet, people here are calling her a heifer, for fighting against a disease that thrives in our cultures. I'm sorry, but if you aren't out there fighting the good fight, then don't get on here calling other people heifers because they are doing something you should've been.

The flaws in her argument is that she derived conclusions based on assumption. Assumption #1: Stating my position with the American/Isreal vs Palestinian conflict. Truth: I did not discuss that in my posts. I was speaking from an Islamic POV. Assumption #2: She suggests that I have something against Jihad. Who is talking about Jihad? Forget that JIhad has different meanings to different people. I, DA/OPI, did not utter the word Jihad nor implied. Yeah, her whole argument is flawed because its solely based on assumptions that aren't even TRUE! J11, you are backing up her evidence....evidence that might be true based on her assumptions, but nonetheless, why does it matter? her assumptions are in correct.......

QQ, Please, for the sake of SOL, start making sense.

Originally posted by OG_Girl: I totally agree. We can't be with our enemy against our brothers in Islam whatever disagreements we have with them. Salam So I am going to assume that you are saying that Osama is our brother and we should follow what ever he is doing because he claims to be muslim, even though his actions are purely political? I'm sorry, but that's a load of crock!

Originally posted by Sensual_Healing: II have labeled the people in brackets accordingly as what they are. Why did you labell the women with "whores/aids sufferers" and the men as terrorists only? juuuuuust wondering. And since when do we take editorials at heart. It is not a scientific representative of an entire country. For all you know, this could be papers from hicksville nashville, written by 13 y-olds. I wouldn't take none of this to heart.

Way to go Galka'yo!!!

^ You can photoshop just about anything these days *smh*

Originally posted by Rahima: As an example they claimed that, the Mujahideen led by Shaikh Usamah Bin Laden are not entitled to declare Jihad in the absence of the Islamic State (Khilafah). This seems kinda radical to me!

Originally posted by rayaana: DEVILS ADVOCATE what does the word sucide bomber mean to you and what implication do you get as soon as you hear it??? Arabs, muslims palestenians etc So you cannot say you even know the real meaning of it and what it implys when you have been totally brainwashed by CNN and other amrican media that have given the word to be directed straight at the muslims when what they are doing is nothing but invading smaller countries..... First, let me laugh *lol*. Second, let me see if I understand this correctly: You ask what does the word suicide bomber mean to me, then you tell me what that word means to me. Then you further assume that I am brainwashed. Your post is illogic. It simply does not make any sense. You make so many assumptions that if one is proven wrong, you're whole argument would fall apart. But like I have stated earlier, this is not about politics...

Topic: Does Islam permit suicide attacks. What I said: "Suicide= haram Killing civilians= haram Suicide bombings kill the person with carrying the bomb and civilians. Therefore, suicide bombings are haram." Yeah, it's simple as 2+2=4. The topic was about Islam and I was speaking in that context. If you, on the other hand, add politics to the mix, then obviously it is going to be extremely complicated. this is what you said OG Girl: "So when you ask us to condemn suicide bombers, we say Ok, but do you condemn what the Israeli army has been doing for 50 years with an American weapons with Blessing" What does one have to do with the other? Are you saying that if someone is against the methods of suicide bombing, then they must be pro-Isreali? Hon, I can sympathize allday with the Palestinians, but at the end of the day, its up to Allah what He will do with the people that took that route. But from the Islam that I have been taught, it is HARAM to kill yourself, and if you are to wage war, you must not target civilians. Obviously right now, you have this frustration with America, but the topic of this thread was about Islam and suicide bombings, and if I'm not mistaken, you opened this thread? I kept my point simple, because I know it can get and will get messy like it just did. Please do not involve me in this political web about America and Isreal, cuz I just don't have the time of patience to start this debate. My final word is that Muslims should openly debate the question of suicide bombings ,without the fear of being accused of collaborating with the States or the Jews because that would be Bush's ironically similar message that you are either with America or against it. Love you for that! DA, Are you against Suicding cause its REALLY HARAM or cause its embarrassing the other Muslims around the globe?. gee, I don't know what you are inferring here. I am so not even gonna go there with you. However, I will say this: No, I am against suicide bombings cuz its in the Koran for us. I don't know whether to :rolleyes: at some folks or just go :eek: .........I just don't get the logic of it all!

^ OG, I could've sworn I was presenting an Islamic point of view. Again, who is talking about the war on terrorism? U.S.? Israel? I know what side I am on, and I would appreciate if you didnt make it seem like I was pro-Israel when all I stated was: Suicide =haram Killing Civilians = haram and if you're going to disprove me, then I would like to you to disproof the above!

^ The Sexism stops here!

Any Koran references to the Mahdi?

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So, I can't say I am against suicide bombings because its haram and senseless.....otherwise, I am supporting America and Israel? How does that work?

So basically you are saying suicide bombings are the key? Right now 35 Iraqi kids are dead. Freedom or no freedom, that is a sad sad shame!!!