The project is a complete sham.. Anyway, this Taani dude is a joke and total idi^ot.. I don't know where secessionists here get the idea that he was good with anything unless they consider embarrassment as a good thing. If this project has any good PR, that dude should have been fired long ago because of his clueless and total baaaaaaaaac he showed in time again and again.. Oh well anyway, this whole lalaland thing is an entertainment..

Xaaji Xunjuf;764476 wrote: ^^ He was accused by some of the tribal chiefs of Awdal being involved in the seemaal Killings begin this week, there is no actual evidence how ever its kind of damaging for his Military Position he holds for the Country. You're still insisting no avidence craps yet he is sacked..

He already passed 21 but he doesn't know..

Abdul;764303 wrote: Buurahadeer,did you say you more civilized??I almost fell off my chair. :D me 2..

Jacaylbaro;764119 wrote: Bal beenta intaa leeg daya hada ,,, Anigu I told you the meaning of SSC from the beginning and that is how it will be dealt with ,,,,,,, Somaliland Secessionists Camp (SSC) ,,, It is a new stage that Somaliland reached to have its own armed Jabhad .... talk about maturity I remember you used called something else start with Saado.. You can wish to be a nation that has rebel against, but everyone has wishes and the end of the day, day dream will turn into nightmares which is no such thing you wished..

Mintid Farayar;764106 wrote: While I believe you're confusing certain enthusiasm gap pertaining to which party/personalities are in power at any given time within Somaliland vs enthusiasm for the idea of an independent Somaliland - we'll move on from that tangential point of our discussion. Your opinion is that the inhabitants of this region are being forced into a project for which they didn't sigh up. Even though those administring, policing, and running this administration in their hometowns happen to be their clan-kin. There's a lot of room for accommodation between our two positions. Nothing to be confused about.. Landers politics is simple and blindly readable from the distance... Burco accepted s/l currency recently after Oday Siilanyo came on board, and they were not enthusiastic as Hargaysas to this divorce before but now it's different case.. Again my opinion is clear and please don't bring up the imprincipled men like Xaabsade as the leaders of my community. The fast majority of Sools from odayo, Isimo to shacab are not for this s/l's project. I am not denying the existance of militias and indivituals who work for somaliland.. However, if the majority of the inhabitants are pro s/l, s/l should have not need to use force and spill blood to occupy LA and our debate would have been rather different than this..

Mitid, I think it’s a fair analysis to say Reer Burcos were not die heart secessionists up until Siilaanyo sit on the seat and now Reer Gebiliey and Hargaysa lot are no longer as enthusiastic as they were before to project. Same goes to Reer Awdal and also check reer Galkacyo for the case of p/l. This the best example of Somalis and their association with politics. Such scenario or analogy is very much common wherever you go, and another good example is ATT’s lot where many of his close kin work for the tyranny regime he opposes. Hope you find the answer of question about if there are elements from Sool who is currently with Somaliland. However, I ain't claiming on the perfect side of this or I am any different from other somalis, but my #1 objection against s/l is their “indho adayg” mentality of forcing others to accept with their own clanish interest and blindly feel it's their rightful that they have given which I don't know who gave them that right over others.. Did you heard about the Somali famous statement “Ma inagii baa isu dowladaynay”… You can NOT come to my home/town and tell me you’re a government and expect me to follow you. Why if I may ask you?

Bluelicious;764086 wrote: Dear Somalis please keep the ONLF and Oga d enia in your duas and prayers since duas and prayers made for another muslims is more likely to get accepted and hopefully inshallah one day they will get their deserved freedom. You can make a difference to their lifes don't forget the power of dua and it's the weapon of the believer. Insha'alah May allah grant them freedom and prosperious life.. Who knew Blue knows Amharic...

Che -Guevara;764000 wrote: I thought I heard AS dooni mayno or something unless AS are themselves which will make sense:-) che, time to check your hearing..lol.. They are saying "Dowlad I (clan name) dooni mayno"..

Mitid, let give you a credit of that you areso far much better than any other from your lot except one guru known NG.. At least you try to avoid the usual headless chicken spin attack and counter attack on this place.. To go back to the solution for my community and as whole of somali people is: 1. Peace among Somalis, particularly neighbors. My community needs peace from your lot whether are nomads or they call themselves government. It has stop this crazy idea of closing boarders. I don't know who give the right to close this boarder and be the police of the place. That has to stop. 2. Let each community build itself from bottom up 3. let all somalis come together work through a common ground to live harmony and unite. It's impossible under the current situation but needs to work towards. This is the simplest way to put it without too much of elaboration.

^^ You either confused or got me wrong. I am not against justice for anyone.. So if innocent is killed, the murder has face the consequence. All I was against is murders roam on the streets of Gabiley and yet those spoke against them got arrested..

Mintid Farayar;763860 wrote: AKhadar, I brought up clan?? Wasn't it your 'cousin' in the preceding post referring to 'clan glory days' which you so quickly agreed with. I, simply, pointed out the recent history of where that's led some from the 'NSUM' wing. If that's sticky acid from our stomachs, then we have grossly differing perceptions of reality. Yet, my question, stands : The whole world knows what Somaliland is offering, limited as it might be in resources. What's the alternative you're suggesting for your community?... Listen mate, I don't know what you're brought up and don't make this too personal. We are talking about NSUM(SSC) vs s/l as entity or clan. You pointed out me falling for a clan glory stuff when I agreed the points Xiin made, and if anyone or entity worships a clan, your entity/clan suffers the most. What I agree with Xiin is needless to bring back 1920s colonial borders, but again you are looking everything with clan lens. The better part of your urgement is when you asked to bring an alternative for my community since I don't agree with the succession..

where is that justice you preach or is justice just for certain Communities Don't ask me the question I asked you.. Answer it why arresting people who said what happened are unjust? Why not arrest those whose names mentioned by survivors in the above video and killed asleeping innocent people.. They are still in the town and also in the army getting paid.. They showed the pullets killed with innocents and they are s/l ammunition.. What more evidence that you want, a video showing Biix and Taani ordering this or one of you clan site to reports.. Hypocrisy Baad la kici la'dahay alle ha kuu sahlo..

Somalia;763833 wrote: That too was the thing bothering me, while the men were asleep... I think even Mogadishu bandits know there's some moral conduct. This mehum in somalia started from there all the way to south.. So no surprise people..

Lol@XX, it's night, but read what the news reports unless you only trust what your lot report true or untrue, right or wrong..

Mintid, you and your lot have one common bad syndrome that you all suffer so much.. It's all good when you argue against staying with the South Somalia because of its last 20 years’ conditions but in the same paragraph if not the same sentence you all gag a sticky acid air from your stomachs when you hit the clan button.. Darn it, had you not ever gone there, I would have been fallen for your point and probably nodded for you with agreement. But again when in fact the mere reason of all about this s/l project is based on clanish and its emotions, I wouldn't suggest you and your lot to ever bring up clan, being this a hint. Besides the starting point of this topic, you were heading it towards that your project made so much progresses and that progresses' front runner is the peace and stability. And all I am saying is, not any more since the invasion to Sool and many other fights after that over the years, one og being the latest killings in Awadal. So now come again and clear your point dear lad, and don't ever go to the clan "thing" cause that side is your loss..

Xaaji Xunjuf;763829 wrote: Does any one have proof Nuux taani Killed any one or just more lies and lies Ciidamo killed People these people were butchered and there is no evidence no one knows where and who these people are The proof is there, the witness mentioned who were the killers and their full names and possible suspects like Biixi and Taani.. So if anyone mention suspects and those may behind, it's a crime and will be jailed when infact murders are not touched. Go read what your clanmates posted other threads about those who killed people last time in Ceelbarde and they are still around and no one did anything about their crimes, no justice and no arrests and that is the law you so adore.. Isku xishood ninyahow sometimes it's bad to defend undefendables like this one. A khadar are you saying Awdal is under occupation like sool loooolz Of course they are even worse occupation than Sool because majority Sools fled from your blood thursty militia but Awadils are there and got butched with no consequences..

xiinfaniin;763834 wrote: A Khadar, think of Somaliland as a clan of ours who out of legitimate, political grievance resorted to unworkable approach to remedy the past. The stuff they concocted in thier effort to separate from us is quite entertaining . If you read Mintid Farayar's post, the delusion is ever palpable and raw. But I would say this; after the fall of Laascaanood, Somaliland's separatist project has reached a political sealing. With no history of clan majesty to sing for, the victory against their historical nemesis was perhaps too big a feat for them. I am sure in the chewing gatherings of Hargeysa the fall of Laascaanood is a big deal, but the movement it ignited (which our separatists brothers are now constantly complaining about) made a more profound statement about the viability of separatist project. Here you have a large clan with glamorous history whose capital is taken by a neighboring clan that've gone rouge on them. The people who resisted British invasion, and put up twenty years of struggle against an enemy with vast resources and logistical reach are now waking up to a peculiar reality after a century of Darwish movement; a certain northern movement wishes to relive the relics of colonial era, seeking to curve up entire cities and land to reach a wicked political station called closing colonial borders of 1920s. Simply put, with the fall of Lascanod, a lane was crossed. As a result , an entire movement was born to take up the challenge. Result: Diaspora is organizing to reverse the gains of this mad group. And it is scaring the heck out of a lot of separatists in abroad who witness the rebirth of SSC nationalism. So the activism, the Diaspora organizations, and the songs of Saado Ali are all part of that reality. Those who provoked it shall have no reason to complain about it---they are akin to the fool that bit a piece he could not swallow. That is how I understand the SSC activism ... Now that said, I am not fond of the denial of other community's achievements. The fact remains in the north, semblance of law and order exists. In the areas where there is a consensus, peace reigns supreme. And I appreciate that. The problem lies in the areas where the separatist delusion attempted to expand ... You said it right...

Cambaro;763814 wrote: That is what I call pure hatred, somaliland is here to stay and Mahiga among others talked about the progress somaliland is making every day. If any somali has hatre for another somali, your lot broke the record. Tell me the peace in s/l when it attacks all its neighbor clans from Awadal, to Ceerigabo, to Sool to Buuhoodle not to mention the killil5 communities.. Ooh may be that doesn't count becaue it isn't happening in hargaysa and burco cities..

Armay ku edbiyaan.. Did you see how they beat the hell the boyfriend out also?

And who do you care?

And what is the law? not to denounce the murders? Or mentioning the names of mass murders like Nuux Taani is a crime... Oh Allah.. It's time for Awadalities to have their freedom.. Where in the world are we. Your militia called ciidamada killed innocent people and who says anything about is arrest..

Cambaro;763815 wrote: Very well described, I agree with you Sool diaspora are stuck in the past, and don't want to move on. Let me agree with what you both said just for now. Then what would you say about that all s/landers both diaspora and back home are stuck with what happened 20 years ago and don't want to move on and stop this succession madness..

burahadeer;763807 wrote: those who destroyed somalia proper want to destroy somaliland.....there is evil in them, but the people r aware nowadays & they will be crushed. kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk ur so bacaaaaaaaaac walahi.. For the record, Siilaanyo is one of those destroyed somalia...

No freedom of speach? XX awoowe are you invite us to join such lalaland project which even arrests people if they condemn terror attacks towards their communities..