^^^ ;)

^^ Alliya, they want to include you and that is the whole issue here..

^^^ As Sayid said, alternative instead of succession could be continuing autonomy system and taking a major role in the somalia issues like p/l does. I am sure s/l will gain doing business this way more than it has now. Plus, regions in the north like ssc and Awal will be more incline to cooperate and that will weigh more the balance between south and north.. The problem now is s/l which other clans sees as one clan wants to just do things on its own way. That ain't solution abti.. Caqligu ha shaqeeyo..

RedSea;721243 wrote: As in Somaliland unity per the statue. Hargeisa does not want union with Muqdisho but Burco and Berbera, Las Anod And erigavo. Get it. What if Las Anod says I want to united with Muqdisho and Hargeisa?

What was that famous poet.. Kii iilka dhigay bay hee.....

Wiil Cusub;721211 wrote: Who cares??:confused: If you don't care, why don't you stay your homes and mind your business instead of crowding the street and wasting your time and energy.. Say something else than who cares! I am sure, that Nooo is hurting uright now!

Som@li;721208 wrote: ^Where did I convey that to you? It is also very sad to see the educated folks from this region fell into the trap , and are overwhelmed by the "KHAT induced thoughts" and turn a blind eye on human right abuses, the killing, the torture, the displacement of innocent people who refuse to be part of this silly project! They should lead the people into achievable, and realistic goals, not wasting over 70% of the meager resources on capturing imaginary borders! I tell you the so called educated and young from the**** are more into this project than those jewing KHAT. Those care nothing but where to find the green stuff...

Haatuf used be piece mouth of the s/l gov when Cigaal AUN and his successor Riyale led just because the clan, and now against it. Somali waa Somali, all they know is clan no matter where they are how hard they try. I am sure if Siiraanyo leaves and another from same clan of the old guard drives, Haatuf will sing a different song!

Why are you opening and repeating same video/story over and over.. What is that going to help? Recogntion?

The place looks good. I didn't know that kind of building structures were exsited in Somalia before the civil war..

War yaa tiriyey dadka. No real estimation let alone an actual census of the population and its demographics..

AfricaOwn;721034 wrote: LOL. You're all over the place. What's the internal conflict between the LA clans all about? Can you elaborate please. You must know it if not, you shouldn't be participating this thread since you're unaware of how things get to where they are now in regards to LA being under your militia. I guess all you know is s/l occupies LA. Why can't they occupied it before? Why Riyale was chased out from LA back in 2003? Do you know where Xaabase was right before LA fell into the hands of your militia? Why did he switch from p/l to s/l? All these and many more are why your militia is in LA in case you didn't know. That is what I am referring to when I said clans from LA are having differences. Had not it been that, and your militia would have tried to capture LA like it tried Buhodle, same consequences like Kalshaale would have ensued. Now back to the subject, no doubt that everyone from LA including the militias work for ur admin will say NO to succession... Everything is about clan same as your clan is wearing the green/red/white flag, they wear the BLUE flag with the white star.......

Taleexi nailed it down..

Axmed-InaJaad;721027 wrote: most LA locals are patriot somalilander like xaabsade, the ssc r minority terror group sponsored by fadhi ku dirir odayaal from the west Are you Saalax or XX?

bilan;721026 wrote: Khadar,You must know by now how futile it is to reason with someone like XX, how can you debate someone who will argue that the sky is not blue, it is waste of time. really. :D:D You are right walahi. They go left to right in blink of eye.. Crazy..

bilan;721022 wrote: A-Khadar, IMO, what is important is at the end everyone will receive what is rightfully theirs and no one will be forced, i beleive every clan in Somalia knows their villages iyo halku geeloodu daaqo . and I did not include Buuhoodle since it is called cayn. I am confused with these guys on the other side playing with different region names. At one point they used the old colonical regions where they were only two or three, later those Siyad's time and now their own made up.. So whichever, as you said it all, if they want to dismemeber, they can have it every inch they own wherever its.

AfricaOwn;721017 wrote: So the hired few got you and your whole clan-line running out of town? Billan will say otherwise, she's calling your people confused, and it wasn't for indecisiveness (for SL and other for union) LA wouldn't be the focus of a debate. My n!ccs own your responsibility and stop the blame game. Exacly.. If you can read somali, there is a saying goes like this, "Gudinyahay hadii aan badhkay kugu jirin, imaad goyseen".. Yep, Being LA in the hands of s/l is because of an internal conflict within LA clans, no more no less. Your milita couldn't come an inch closer to that city until and slowly clans in LA difragmented politically. So if it comes to the real succession, they know where their final destiny is. Until then, I consider them, employees working for their daily lives nothing more nothing less.

Xaaji Xunjuf;721004 wrote: Actually it's in the interest of our garaad brothers that Somaliland shall remain united ka waran if a person from the garaad clan From taleex area wants to visit his cousin in ceerigaabo and he has to take a visa Don't you see how pathatic is your project? Isn't that exactly what you're advocating all alone which is a brother from Garoowe who wants to visit his brother/sister in LA has to have visa?

Xaaji Xunjuf;720998 wrote: a Khadar you are misscalculating the Awdalians will majority vote for an independent Somaliland in an independent Somaliland Politically they will have a good representation in Somaliland , in the days when the Somali republic was the Somali republic they had one Minister in the whole government and in the late years of the Siyad Govt the awdal Gobol was created . Now they have two Gobol awdal and selel and rayaale created selel and it was approved by the parliament they have Equal share in the Govt. In the Former Somali Govt they had only 4 MPS, in Somaliland they have 25 mps both Guurti and Parliament. it's All about interest they can't afford to be insignificant in Somalia. in Djibouti after the Canfar they are the largest Community there and they only have one Minister Like the The'Bani hashim clans inDjibouti. So Somaliland is in their interest the majority of their people know that so they will vote for independence over 80% All these are speculations right? Let us agree, the mere clan of yours can't be divorce the union and they must have either of the other clan with them if not all. If you agree on this, we can take this somewhere, hadii kale qaylada iga daa..

Saalax;720983 wrote: The Zack , Hargeysa & Burco regions still remain as the highest populated regions in Sland. So nothing much changed other than more population growth and twenty years of peace and having more "I" kids lol. I love the term reer Bariga isticmaalaan "Boowe aa say kula tahay"..

Saalax;721000 wrote: A_Khadar Hargeysa & Burco regions are the heartland of the "I" clan just like Hiiraan, & Mogadishu regions are the heartland of the "H" groups. the little chaotic Buhoodle is not part of Burco region (thankfully) . Saacadii waalida iyo qalbi xidhank miyaa???

AfricaOwn;720995 wrote: in this same thread you went from 100% show no support to SL to now majority show no support to SL. Are xaabsade sub-clan the militias? I think you need help with understanding.. Where did I show any support to s/l. If you consider hired militia is the mere support to base on facts of support, then somaliland is an existed because of Bubaa, Omaar, Kaluun, even late Tuur AUN who was once your president and many more are not supportive to the s/l and. What I said is about LA is, the local support you'are counting is the hired militia.

bilan;720993 wrote: Hmmm, I do not think you will get unbiased opinion on this question. But it will all come down to clan, majority of the I will vote for secession and non I will vote for union, at the end, Sool will choose to remain with Somalia, half of Sanaag will remain with Somalia, I believe Awdal will also choose to be with Somaliweyn rather than be bossed around by certain clan, especially if Somalia opt for federation, Awdal will be its own sate. So you will have two countries one country for I only and then Somalia. So people who are saying it will be landslide for secession are basing their opinion on their clan and what they saw in their cities/villages. Bilan, you forget that southeastern of Togdheer, Buhodle district will also be for the union.. Plus don't say half of Sanag, Majority of Sanaga is dwell by Makhiri..

Saalax;720980 wrote: Well one has to keep in mind the*** do not have a region only exclusive to them in Somaliland. Both Sanaag & Sool are shared regions and they are not very populated compared to Burco & Hargeysa regions. Source is A General Survey of the Somaliland Protectorate: 1944 - 1950 by John A. Hunt, prepared as the final report on An Economic Survey and Reconnaissance of the British Somaliland Protectorate 1944-1950 Well one has to keep in mind the ***do not have a region only exclusive to them in Somaliland. And who has exclusive region? Tell us who? Source is A General Survey of the Somaliland Protectorate: 1944 - 1950 by John A. Hunt, prepared as the final report on An Economic Survey and Reconnaissance of the British Somaliland Protectorate 1944-1950 What does this source say?

AfricaOwn;720979 wrote: You seriously think LA is occupied by force with no local support? Why are you giving SL this much credit? I never deny the facts. Of course to some degree, there are few men like Ina cambaashe, Xaabsade and few others with their militia who got hand from your militia to occupy the city of LA but majority of the population don't support s/lander. I am certain if this internal conflict with the clans of LA is resolved, the city will be back to its people and free from s/land.