we should still support the TFG who ever the new leader is. Its the closest thing we have to a Somali government. A.yusuf was the president and did his best whilst in office to implement peace and he is retired now...probably good for his health. However, it should not mean the government of Somalia is also gone. Duke....France have done alright since Zidane...who is gonna be the new VaVa Voom of Somalia one wonders I couldn't have said better. This mentality that says we should be at the helm or else no support is madness and its the reason why we are where we are. We should support or oppose a system not an individual. Reer Puntland have nothing to lose, and nothing to fear after Yusuf, specailly with all the political talent that is in their disposal. I think Yusuf should have realized by now where the Somali problem lies ie Ethopia. They are always pursuing the old policy of 'Divide and rule' and will never want to see united Somalia. We should be clever enough to understand this instead of going in cycles. What shoudl Puntland do: 1. Support the TFG system and work within the system to correct whatever they deem wrong. 2. As they are very important part of Somalia, it is more likely that the next prime minster or president will come from their kinsmen hence, should prepare an individual that is chosen for their piety, nationalism, talent and experience. 3. Should pursue a policy of uniting the Somali population by being less friendly to Ethopia and more welcoming to our Somali brothers and sisters wherever they might be from. This thinking that Ethopia is our friends should stop, as Adeero realized to two times that they can turn against you in no time.

Maalin walba ma grup horlaa soo baxaaya horta? Ahlusunnah soo Suufiyaashii ma aha? goormey xoog yeesheen. waxaan umalaynayaa waa qabailka halka dagan oo raba magac diiniya oo ay kula diriraan Alshabaab.

Good move from Yusuf. The onus is on the rest of Somalis to take peace and support a system not a man or a clan.

Somalis are suspicious of each other and the support given to next pres. will depend from which clan he hails from. That is sad reality and unless we address that and learn to trust each other, there will be more failed governments on the way.

I agree with Duke. Yeey should call it a day. He had his ups and downs and history will charge him wether favourably or unfavourably. Where I diasagree with him is that he shuould not seek to withdraw support from the TFG and withdraw troops. You have to keep in mind that Puntland is somalia and Somalia is Puntland and hence self isolation is not an option. It is common sense that if you have been a part of the problem, you should be a part of the solution. ps I Think this Duke guy must have balls of steel, unlike others he is always here urguing for his corner whatever the sitiation

If i was a Somaliland supporter I would not wish Yey to leave in the South, as I know for sure Las area will burn hellishly...Mark duceysta odeyga inuu halkaa idinakala joogo shidadiisa

^ lol@christmas wish, what would that be? With all honesty they are falling into the Somali tribal game unwittingly. All that is going on now comes down to 'clan'. Nur Adde has been advised to get Yey down by all means necessary so us to get the support of his tribe (Ahmed Dirie & Co) and therefore unite them under one political banner. Yey in the other hand is becoming insensitive and savvy, albeit, bringing down the wall of the TFG, an entity he was its backbone just few weeks ago. He is sensing the end, and hence to the indifference to its fall. There was an old saying ‘ Ilaahay ka baq, ragna iska celi meel ma wada gasho’. That said, all these could have been avoided and settled in a gentleman’s way if any of the two men had the best interests of the Somali people at heart. ButThere has been one thing that has been synonymous with the 15 and so Somali governments after Barre, they end in failures. The TFG is destined just to that.

Interesting development. Let's see how the old fox dotches this one. It will be hard for him that he now parted company with the Big Brother in the Horn. But he is a man with no permanent friends and no permanent enemies, so it will be interesting to see who he befriends with next. Could it be Afewerku or perhaps Alshabab! Somamli politics is like a good movie that you dont want to end but you know it for fact it will be destructive and deadly for many innoncent people and for that you want it to end. But for now the saga goes on!

I don't know the fella but his CV looks very impressive. However, I read his CV looking to see if he has ever been in a position of high authority with big responsibilities and I find none. But then you might ask who was? All the other ones are in same position or worse? Basically all these candidates have never been tried and tested. And a matter of fact this is the dilemma confronting the Somali race. Do we opt for the inexperienced young or the oldies who were responsible for our ailments? If you ask me I would choose the young for the simple reason that they are for the future and giving them the experience now through trials and errors would help the future generations. By the way what are credentials of the general from Sanaag or the professor from Bari? Having the titles such 'general' or 'professor' is not enough to get us through, if that would, Cadde's would have! May be this question could be answered by Soophist, sorry I meant 'Fahiye'.

Well done to Naima and may she succeed her dream of becoming a doctor. I hope she inspires and become a role model for all other single mothers in the UK who almost convinced themselves getting Income support is the ultimate prize to win. She showed our sisters with little bit of hard work and resilience it is possible to achieve success in life.

Lol... So all over sudden the TFG has became Alshabaab!! What is funny about this whole thing is that people who support Alshabaab bombings and guerrilla war in Mogadishu find themselves in a situation where they can not support The Alshabaab in Kismayo. Why? CLAN. So my suspicion was correct all along. Fighting in Somalia is driven by Clan and not a religion and no clan is more religious than the others. Case closed.

Sababta dumarka looga badiyey dhinacaas waa xaga dheesha. Men can disguise their inabilty to perform, but I guess Habraha aren't good at acting ( Waligiin ma maqasheen sheekadii 'waa xaajo rag'?

This is very interesting discussion between a Sufi and UIC supporter on very important topic. Watch :

Ilwaaday saa ku wad. ragu waa masaakin ilaahay wax yar baa qanciya!

^Yeah, and prolly F can't handle the heat of politics . Yeah, that's right! Oh...I struck a raw nerve Warya I'm not stranded in a cyle, thanks god for that. Guys I can see I'm spoiling a party, but all i'm trying to do is to remind you that there's a world out there beyond cyber bickering. Try to ban yourself nearing any internet for a year, and you will see a difference. Try! it's doable.

^ That's what I am talking about.

Denial is river in Egypt. Sxb don't get me wrong I got nothing against this great website and I am sure it helps a lot of people who don't happen to live near any Somalis etc, but it also disadvantages small number of users who are addicted to the website and to the Internet in general. How could we help them was my question and the reason behind starting this discussion. The least you could do was give your advice to this young men and women instead of smelling coffee! I am not making up anything they exist and I know them in real life. Just go through this website, you will see people posting and replying to hundred posts in a day and repeating this act day after day, add that to the time they spend reading other people's replies, its day's work. These are young men and women who could have used all these time applying jobs,revising on their College and university lectures, and basically doing something meaningful for their Lives, but all on the drain. Its sad.

Paragon For matter of preventing this looming calamity, every Somali male that reached puberty should marry four wives and fast before the age of 35, otherwise you risk this: Male biological clock 'ticks too' Scientists say they have found more evidence that men as well as women have biological clocks and that they start to tick in their mid-30s. A French study of over 12,200 couples having fertility treatment suggests the chance of a successful pregnancy falls when the man is aged over 35. It adds that the chance is significantly lower if he is over 40. Previous studies have shown that both natural and assisted conception is more difficult if the man is over 40. The researchers told a European reproductive health conference that it was likely the problems were caused by DNA damage in sperm. Miscarriage risk The researchers studied couples who had sought treatment for infertility at the Eylau Centre for Assisted Reproduction in Paris between January 2002 and December 2006. All were given intrauterine inseminations (IUI), also known as artificial insemination, where sperm is inserted into the womb when the woman is ovulating. It is given to couples where the woman has no fertility problems and is less invasive than IVF. The men's sperm were examined for quantity, their ability to move and swim and their size and shape. Rates of pregnancy, miscarriage and births were recorded. HAVE YOUR SAY I started my second family at 55 and now have three boys aged five, seven and eight. Leeroy, London Read your comments In addition, the researchers analysed detailed data on the pregnancies, which allowed them to pinpoint factors associated with the man and the woman. As expected, maternal age had an effect in women over 35, who had a significantly higher chance of miscarriage and lower rate of pregnancy. But the team also found that, where the father was in his late 30s, miscarriages were more common than if the man was younger. And if a man was over 40, the chances of a successful pregnancy were even lower. For those couples, a third of pregnancies ended in miscarriage and only 10% of treatments resulted in pregnancies. 'Growing evidence' Dr Stephanie Belloc, who presented the work to the European Society of Human Reproduction and Embryology (ESHRE) conference in Barcelona, said: "This research has important implications for couples wanting to start a family." She said such couples should be offered IVF (where an egg is fertilised in a lab dish), and where the outer membrane of the egg seems to block sperm with DNA damage, and ICSI (where a sperm is injected directly into an egg), where the best sperm can be selected for use. "These methods, although not in themselves a guarantee of success, may help couples where the man is older to achieve a pregnancy more quickly, and also reduce the risk of miscarriage," she added. Dr Allan Pacey, a fertility expert at Sheffield University and secretary of the British Fertility Society, said: "There is growing evidence from a number of studies to show that men are not totally immune from reproductive ageing . "

MMA you could have been helpful if you addressed the questions. Its not just a simple interaction (fadhi ku dirir), some people live by it and die by it and have no social interaction outside the net. Yes, this is true for small minority but nevertheless needs addresing, given how many talents are being wasted that could have otherwise been the futute back bone of our cvommunities in here and in our country. About me, I do hang around here and there and contribute one or two posts once in blue moon and hence I could not possibly have emotional attachment as my contribution is minimum. If I put it in short how do SOL help you? and what its your advice to people mentioned above.

Since I joined this Website 6 years ago, I always thought that the reason why people like myself come here were to socialise and spend some Time online with like minded Somali people. However, over the years I have seen this website becoming the life line of some people where they have emotional attachment and something that they can not be without. More over, this website has became a base for people who want to bring about 'change' specially political change. They think by convincing the crowds here they think they will impact the people on the ground. They write long thesis,exchange messages, stay online until late etc Wether you agree with this or not,some people spend unpropotionate of their precious time by trying to achieve this unachievable goals wasting their time that they would have otherwise used to help to better themselves and their communities. Therefore, my questions to you all are 1.How does SOL help you? 2. Do you believe you influnce on people by urguing for your political thinking? If so how does this bring change where its needed. 3. Do you think SOL is addictive and have long wasted your precious time? 4. What do you think is the best way of balancing the pleasure that is SOL and your other important commitments? Your thoughts are welcome.

OK let me speculate what is likely to happen if this threat of these MPs materialise. Half or less than that will relocate to Mogadishu claiming to have impeached the president and nominte another president, the other half of the MPs and the president, the primeminster will relocate into Baidoa and Jowhar. The latter group will vote to bring IGAD troops to the country including Ethopia and after few months will vow to return low and order and will attack Mogadishu with full force. There will be bloody war ofcourse and many Somalis will die. The situation will then depend on if some group of the two come out as a winner, if not things then go back to square one and new warlords will emerge taking the country into further fiefdoms. Let us pray we never wake up into this scenario and these ****** sort things out for the sake of the poor people. What I predicted happened after two years!!!Did I dream on it, asked myself. Or may be I should change my career and become a political analyst?

^^Yap. Trial and errors my boy..but you sneaky one how did you figure out?

Allamagan their perceptions of Somalis are divided, you have the educated South Africans and you have the common people who are the majority. The educated people know the Somalis for what they are, refugees struggling with their daily lives. The commoners think Somalis are some kind of some super race who takes their share of provisions from South African government. They question where Somalis get all those wealth they don’t have, they must be getting favours from the government, they say. The other thing that inflames tensions against Somalis are the small business owners who think they can’t compete Somalis in same level field as they believe they have bigger capital than them or they think the prices will come down as result of competition. The thing that I’m amazed with is that how the government is ignoring this issue, I think they’re forgetting how Somalia was among many African countries that fought for their freedom they enjoy today. As to your question of what they think of Somalis, in their first encounter with Somalis it was confusion. The blacks who are the most uneducated, uncivilized of all the races in South Africa thought we were coloureds. The coloureds thought we were half black, half coloureds or simply coloureds. The white people and Asians were the only ones who bothered to ask us where we were from as they recognized us as different. Most of them didn't even know where somalia was, some thought it was a province in South Africa!!

Subxannallah maxaa meesha kasocda!! I remember back in the day we used to be very nervous going into those townships that Somalis nowadays dare opening shops and businesses, because they’re very lawless areas and hardly there any police presence. The crime is dominant and they are ‘no go areas for whites and coloureds’ as they’re exclusively black Only townships. Our Somali brothers should have come to conclusion that there is no place for them in the townships. I know opening shops in the big, mixed, and more civil towns are hard but they could be business partners and share profits that way. May Allah help them.

As much as I applaude the idea, its not feasible in our life time. May be if petrol was to be discovered in our land, then we would have a flow of economic migrants to our land, otherwise what kind of people in their right mind would go to a country its people dont even want to go to.