Allah ha u naxariisto ehelkiisana ha samir siiyo. Was he fron London by any chance, the name rings a bell?

burahadeer;827588 wrote: Puntland the only one crying both sides of the fence...have problem with rest of south,can't be somebody by thmslvs like somaliland cos they won't be a viable state.Jealous much of SL....empty talk is the order of the day for thm. who told you we have a problem with the rest of the South? and why should we be jeouleous of waqoyi Galbeed, they are our brothers and siters however delusioned they may be. Carfaat, Come again? You are for states? so what are you against exactly? I am confused!

^lol hadba meel u bood adigu, Sh Sharif hadii uu kasoo horjeedo muxu u diidiwaayay dastuurka federalka ah, culusoowse yuu matalaa? Ilma adeertiis waa kuwaas ku shiraya Dhuusamareeb si ay dawlad gobeleed u dhistaan, Hiil Qaran waa fikir xisbi markii doorasho lagaaro aan aragno waxay taageero haystaan, Federalism hadii uusan taageero haysan maxaa meel walba looga dhisayaa?

lol and delusion goes on

Carafaat;827506 wrote: cidiyo ku dagalakan federalismka lagu xala xaleniyo ma aragta. Shekadaas mar hore ee dhamatay, Samafal ya tosiya. Maxaa dhamaaday? arinta Waqooyi Galbeed ma go,ijkaro baad ka gubatay :) So much about centralisation! Fedralsim Puntland cid ay baryayso ma leh wayba hasataa, marka adigu wax centralisation ka hadlaya i tusi aan ka ahayn a lone wolf like Culusoow iyo adayga Georaphy teacherka ah Tan kale suaalaha Mooge maad uga jawaabtid

Anigana inta odayaasha adiga kula caqliga ah ay dhamaanayaan 1000 years waa igu filantahay, ana aan ku representgareeynayo in the international arena, qariidada sevenka ahna ay jirto I'm satisfied :)

Xaaji Xunjuf;827491 wrote: Ma af bay ku noqon tallow:D Hadayba yihiin baan ku iri oo igama aadan go, maba go;kartid inta wiilasha Daraawiishta ahaa ah ay noolyihiin, so onus is on you to become internationally rcegnised country! go on I give you another 40 years

Haatu;827392 wrote: It is plain that the majority of us southerners are against this federalism thing, but the question stands, why are we reer koonfuur being held hostage by puntland? I don't know which Southerners you are speaking of but to say the South does not want federalism is not true. Do you know Bay, Bakool and Shabellaha Hoose had a state and still want to bring back that state. Also Jubada Hoose, Jubada dhexe and Gedo want to have their own state. Galmudug, Ximan iyo Xeeb are already semi-states looking for ways to unite. Marka which Southerners are against it? Ulusoow is only representative of himslef and nothing more. Teeda kale there's a clause in the Constituition that say any region which does not want to be federal state can choose to be part of the federal goverment along the capital. So say dadka aad sheegaysid don't want federal its not imperative on them to be part of any federal state.

^Rest assured Waqooyi Galbeed is and will be part and parcel of Somalia, but there's something called delusion and that can go on how long you want.

MoonLight1;827470 wrote: and your solution is? tell us ABC. War ha isku daalin ninkaan ABCna kuu uu sheegi maayo wuxuu isla hayaa ma leh. baal waydii adigu hadii uu rabo in Centralised goverment what does he want for "Waqooyi Galbeed", are they part of his Centralised goverment? Wuu cararayaa markaad su,aal ka waydiiso reerkiisa. basically, his whole urgument for centralised goverment is based on to make away for Waqooyi Glabeed seccession, becouse if federalism is on the table they have no urgument to convince the International community to recognise them, hence why the majority of them hate Puntland.

Inaalilaahi wa inaa ilaahi raajicuun. Allah u naxariisto Dr Jimcaale. He was a great man with great personality. His book "Ma daganayaasha geeska Africka" was the best Somali book I ever read. Ilaahay Janadii ha ka waraabiyo, ehelkiisana iyo dhamaan dadka Somaliyeedna Allah ha ka samir siiyo.

Carfataat was Ubaxa kacaanka? Ah that explains

Ten years would be ideal but 5 years is very short a time to brain wash a young Amhaar. Anigu waxaan dhihi lahaa clause ha lgu daro dhahaysa every one else welcome but no Dethopians.

Xaaji Candhuuf But would you like surrender to surrender to TFG and AMISON forces or not?

Sh Shariif baa Constituitionka diidan waa been, he only said there are things that I don't agree with, which is valid thing to say. The rest waa waa illiterate former warlords like Indhacade, Yalaxoow, and Prof Geedi who is campaigning for votes. You got to undersatnd neither Yalahoow, nor Indhacde can fullfil the criteria to become an MP so its in their interest to derail the Road Map, Thank God they can't any more.

When you see secessionists worried and bothered about this constitution you sense there must be something up. A close family member has just came back from Hargeisa and said they are talking a lot about the constitution and what it will mean for them. You can call secessionists whatever you like but they are not dabaal they really understand that the game in the playground is nearly over.

The girl was brave enough to go and see for herslef the sad reality that her mother went through. Its really sad that after 20 years the same is going on. Who's responsible of all these mayham and destruction? who is responsible of all these women and children being raped by filthy Ethopians?

For the people who are in the UK. have a look at this documentary about a Somali model who came to the UK at the age of three and who then goes back to Hamar cadeey. Here is a clip of tonight's documentry. You can watch the full documentry tonight at 21:00 UK time on BBC Three. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00qj6gw

Carafaat;824525 wrote: Samafal, I haven't divided Puntland in to Ras Caseyr, western Puntland, Khatumo iyo Makhir. It's a result of clan thinking. And its what Federlism will do with Somalia, more dividions in to to sub-clan states. Like an onion disected layer for layer. Even those guys in Ximan, Gamudug, SWJ understand now that its better to work together in to a bigger admin, cause this clan think has no. Value for the people. Same can be said about your clan fiefdom, it’s divided into Awdalland, Burco and even parts of Hargeisa and Berbera declared their own state other day. Burco is divided into two clans, Beesha waqooyi and Beesha Bari. The clan mentality is rife in your fiefdom and everything is based on clan, but you have the audacity to come here and lecture us about clan federalism. Sxb charity starts at home, so before you talk about Puntland look closer to home. Federalism has not been implemented yet, so for you blaming Somali division on federalism is ludicrous. Something cannot be a failure before it e even started. The current grievances clans have against Puntland and Somaliland, the two administrations working in Somalia, has existed and will exist whether we have a central government or federal government. It’s about scarce resources and justice, two things we Somalis don’t have in abundance.

This Carafaat guy is funny, in every post he is dividing up Puntland into mini clans and non for his clan fiefdom. Tells alot about what is in his mind. War xaasidnimo meel laguma gaaro adeer, About federalism and centralism, both of them have their pros and cons and no one can say the other will/will not cause civi war. It all depend Somalis and how they uphold the rule of law and stop overreacting with vengeance on every little thing.

Xaaji Xunjuf;824310 wrote: The most important step was to persuade the two young women. Intidhar said: “He told me, ‘We will marry, me, you and Suad, in one night, so what do you say?’ And I told him it is all right, if you treat us both the same way.”.” The first half hour is important here!! How is he going to treat them equal without one becoming mental?

She gives live advice on Uni tv about immigration issues, but her Somali lets her down.

Juxa good work. Why dont you volunteer at Univesal TV and replace the garamgaram girl

Alxamdililaah, the city badly need a drainage system.

^Carafaat adigu qabiilka bal reerkiina ka tanaasula dheh, dadka islaameedna dagaalka ka daaya, inta aad reer gaalkacyo kala celinaysid intaas. Anigu dastuurka waa kasoo horjeedaa maxaa yeelay horta ma akhrin, laakiin kuma qorna in madaxnimda lakala leeyahay oo dadbaa kaba ka waaweyn iska gashoonooya, dadka caanaha, yaanyada, moxoga keenayana waxaa la leeyahay doorasho soo gala, waxaas wax soconoooyo ma aha. tan kale kuma qorna dadka guryaha iyo beeraha ha loo qaybiyo, dadbaa guryo qeeri caadi iska dhistay waagii dawlada lacagta xagee ka keeneena horta? Kuma qorna madax waynih inuu muslim noqdo, waxaana igu maqaal ah inuu Mahiga rabo inuu isu soo taago madaxnimada, marka kani saxid uma naahna waa in la iska diidaa.