Originally posted by rudy: somali national anthem was written by in 1800s by some italian!! If we go along with your above statement, it would mean Giuseppe Blanc wrote Somalia's national anthem in 1888, when he was only 2 years old. Italy acquired its first possession in southern Somalia in 1888.

Most African national anthems were written by their colonizers. Somalia's national anthem was written by Giuseppe Blanc (1886-1969), who also wrote Giovinezza, the Italian Fascist anthem (1922-1943). About the words, I am not sure, but think it's along these lines: Somaliyaay toosoo Toosoo isku tiirsada ee Hadba kiina taag daranee Taageera waligiinee..

It's a party whose ideology is based on Karl Marx's theories of socialism. It receives some limited support from a country (or a few) whose system is based on socialism. In short, it's a party whose platform is based on secularism. Like many similar parties that sprouted in the West (especially during/after the formation of the current transitional government), it will achieve little or nothing, because it has no representation or base support in Somalia. How can it achieve anything when it's not even a spectator of the playing field of Somalia? Plus, it has little or no grasp of the realities in Somalia, because its members have been living in a different reality for more than a decade. The solution to Somalia's troubles will come from within, i.e. Somalis who live in Somalia.

This name: Originally posted by Mutakallim: Subuki and this one: Subki are of two distinct names? If so or not, this topic suffers/will suffer from typos that could lead some readers to confusion.

Originally posted by NGONGE: this poem Somehow, the Arabic letters appear to be disjoined*, even when enlarged: يا سَائÙلي عَنْ مَذْهَبÙÙŠ وعَقيدَتÙÙŠ However, when I use this keyboard, the result is clearer: يا سائلي عن مذهبي Ùˆ عقيدتي *It appears to be disjoined under the platform I am running, not Windows.

Factual facts in the black man's words.

Originally posted by Mutakallim: Of course, you can always read the hollow writings of Ibn Taymiyyah... Of course, what you see isn't necessarily what others see. It's quite illogical to allege your personal finding as the finding of the many. At the very least, you should state its your own finding, or hold it so not to show a biased one. always The inclusion of the above term (not hollow) in your statement shows some emotion. As any logical individual is aware of, emotion makes a weak logic. The prison where Ibn Taymiyyah died.

Originally posted by Mutakallim: Why Those whys make no sense. For one, the poster of this topic has failed to define the term Many, or provide some works/links of the Many so-called muslim apologists. The poster has given the misguided impression of the existence of Many so-called muslim apologists who habitually attack the creeds of other religons. I have searched Google, but failed to find some works/links of the Many so-called muslim apologists. From the poster's failure to provide some works/links of the Many so-called muslim apologists, we can deduce this illogical topic might be something akin to a waste of space and time.

Originally posted by Mutakallim: Perhaps I need to clarify Perhaps, your this topic and clarification makes little or no logic.

Just checking if my page allows remote image linking, also to check its bandwidth limitation. Update: It works.

Originally posted by ole farah: What is your view? Well, he strikes me as a diehard secularist. There's a problem with being a secularist, let alone a diehard secularist. What I am trying to say is, he's indifferent to the interests of Islam and Muslims. He even accused his fellow Muslims as terrorists. This whole debacle cannot even remotely be described as having anything to do with Islam or Islamic system. In that, Hussein Aideed isn't destined to be unique, but mere statistics.

Originally posted by Mutakallim: Many so-called muslim apologists attack the creeds of other religons all the while unaware of the incongrous tenets of their adulterated version of Islam. They argue that other beliefs are illogical and irrational, and once they are asked to explain the concept of a God with parts (eye, hand, leg, face) they respond with the infamous expression of paradox, to wit, "the 'how' is unknown" (Al-Kayfu Majhuul). Your above statement is murky. Muslims are least likely to attack the creeds of other religons. When they talk about the creeds of other religons, they talk about what Islam has taught them. I have done some googling about articles or works done by the so-called muslim apologists; I have found none. Perhaps you could furnish the works of some of the Many you have talked about.

Originally posted by OLOL: Many unsuspecting ordinary Somalis may think that those Somali men who carry the titles of PH.D and who publicly publish their ideas on the world wide web know everything and are mature enough to advocate for what is socially right and refrain from indulging in and nourishing the doomed philosophy of clannish-ness, partisan politics and parading outright lies as the ultimate truths, but unfortunately, these supposedly learned men seem to be a practising real politicians who don't care about the well being of the majority of the Somali people but all they are interested in is to strengthen the political and social position of their chosen warlord or warlords. A PhD degree is merely a degree in a specialized field. What good is it? It could help one find a job, if there's a job. If there's no job, it becomes insignificant. It could get you a high paying job depending on your origin, race, color, religion and etc. For instance, there are Asians with PhD degree employed in the West, who are paid significantly less than their local counterparts. Degrees evolve. A prized degree can/could become insignificant over a number of years. That's why people adapt by earning a new degree that's employable. PhD degrees used to be much hyped by some (especially in the Third World) in the past, but is no longer. A PhD holder isn't necessarily a higly intelligent individual. A PhD holder can only be good in his field of specialization, if the field is productive and can earn him/her good salary. In short, a PhD degree is nothing to boast about; it should at best make its holder humble. Besides, for Muslims, a PhD degree that doesn't serve the interests of Islam and Muslims, is useless.

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Originally posted by mizz_S.lander: statistics are not always correct either I thought it were, with +-4% (5%?) error margin. You could be right.

Originally posted by mizz_S.lander: but i though somali ppl like giving Thoughts are impressions made by individuals. Most of the time, those impressions are inaccurate. It's not statistics. Of course, Somali people like giving, only to their immediate relatives. Whose people like giving to strangers? For the sake of Soomaalinimo?

Is this the Bashir Goth?

Originally posted by General Duke: MPLS time is 6 hours behind the UK one. Actually, it's 5 hours. Minneapolis' clock with respect to GMT is GMT-5.

Compare the third clock to the first one, or CDT (Minneapolis) to GMT (London).

Originally posted by Haniif: A little while ago I remember the question, but you didn't ask A little while ago. I think your post was deleted because it didn't make sense. Plus, I think you're too lazy not to figure out the answer to your question.

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Anyone know where in Hargeisa is this image located, or how far is it from downtown Hargeisa? It says A Street in Hargeisa, but I doubt if it's a typical street. Originally posted by ADNAAN: The Philipino lady on the right is the only and 1 Yevete Is she a missionary?

Originally posted by B_A_L_L_E_R_Z: FIX UP MAN WAA LAYDINKA TAGEE As long as there are people like you who just talk and say FIX, I doubt there will be a FIX. Instead, if you do something, there could be a FIX.

Originally posted by juxa: tho i dont know what motivate some women to do it It could be for whatever reason. Personally, I think they would do it because they believe it's cool and modern (ilbaxnimo) to do what Westerners do. It's one thing to take from the West what can make you scientifically/technologically advanced, it's another thing to embrace its culture. I have obseved Westerners respect those who stick to their own culture, and pity the fox who tried to walk the lion's walk.

Originally posted by Xoogsade: Bro Haddaad Sidee tahay? Fiican badan, mahadsanid. The other moot point here is the driving motivation behind posting the pics. They want iney dadka dulleystaan oo ihaano dusha kaga tuuraan by advocating and bringing Amxaaro. Yaa warkooda ku jiro anyways? people have moved on religiously and boast about unmatched entrepreneurship. They have gained lot although they lost a lot as well. As things stand, Amxaaro is not coming no matter what bleak pictures people post or hollow claims they make. They are wasting their time. Well said.