The Final Analysis: There seems to be a bit of a contradiction in the final communique. On the one hand , it states in bold type that decisions on Somalia's future "rest with the Somali people". On the other it talks about outsiders taking some control of the government's budget, with the establishment of a Joint Financial Management Board. It is also outsiders who have decided that the time for political transition is over ; they even say they will "incentivise progress" towards representative government. Will the London Conference translate into change on the ground? Doubtless there has been real progress in the fight against al-Shabab and piracy. The conference delegates have made it clear that the time for political transition is over. But Somalia may be entering another phase of violence and instability, this time between its regions, many of which have their own governments. There were no less than four Somali presidents at the conference , one representing the transitional federal government, the others the more stable regions in the north. And outside the conference there were no less than three small but noisy demonstrations, all shouting and singing for different causes. This suggests that peace and unity may be still be a distant dream. Cajiib!

^ Dumaashi - you say 'allow alle' - I say Alxamdullilaah that I am reer Qardhood. Would have you preferred that i called you and maaddey reer Xamar instead of reer koonfur? maxayse si ka ah koonfur, oo aad ku diidaa? mise XX baad imooday and confused it with 'koonfuria'? Ngonge - adiga qofwalba ku harowsada - haddii aad catir caana ku dhuug ahan lahayd -instead of - casiir cabbe; mar hora dadka iska celin lahayd

Dumaashi - have you noticed in the somali comedy circles - misunderstandings always occur between reer waqooyi iyo reer koonfur - never with the reer bari -

You know not Qardho - Qardho's cats are called 'Somali' and they are the most beautiful cats in the world - here is one with blue backdrop As for Qabiil - Qardho qabyaallad maleh - waa meel qurux badan oo qabow. :cool:

^^ :D @ sida reer koonfur Af soomaali kuugu harowsanaayaan

Ban Ki-moon said that when he visited the world's biggest refugee camp; Dadaab, Somalis asked him whether the world really cared. Here is the clip - His answer to them is unconvincing

Carafaat;793438 wrote: Sayidoow, and that is were we disagree. Maybe you consider clan based ideologies progress , I hope not. For I hope we can start with a new begining and with real progress and not institutionalizing wrong and futile ideologies. No, you must have confused me with your casiir drinking better brother from Burco, who is well known in SOL to be promoter of 'Clan is Everything' ideology. For me clan is nothing but a tool used to whip the sentiments of tools

Mintid Farayar;793434 wrote: It's interesting that Siilaanyo was not included in the special breakfast for the Somalia reps this morning given by David Cameron. It shows that he(Siilaanyo), at least, got that concession of a 'unique and separate' status for Somaliland. Whether this will translate to any further movement on the political front remains to be seen. The promised British aid exclusively for Somaliland of 105M BP/$165M for the next 3 years will also make a difference in a very poor region. I still remain skeptical on the potential of this Conference to make a real difference. 'Things will only move forward when Somalis come to an internal agreement among Somalis - foreign prodding only exacerbates the problem'... Ditto! You are not "deaf, dumb and blind" magacaaguna ma'aha "Macna Yare" after all - well said!

Carafaat;793396 wrote: Still angry I decivered your cheap arguments for opposing the Londen Conference. Tani wee dulisaa ayaan ku iri, adna waxba kama qaban kartid. 'Tani' maxay tahay?, - maxayse dulisaa? As for my opposition to the said conference;- is matter of principle for me, but I don't expect you to understand that. However, regardless of my principle, I do wish and hope that something good would come out of that conference - if not at least something that will not be so detrimental to whatever progresses are made so far however minuscule.

Caano_Geel;793012 wrote: Here Caano Geel - you selectively forgot to include the following text (which came with the picture you posted here): Abdirahman Abdallahi Ismail Saylici, Vice President of Somaliland Abdirahman Abdallahi Ismail Saylici (Somali: Cabdiraxmaan Cabdilaahi Ismaaciil Saylici) with Somaliland Passport. He is the Vice President of Somaliland, after winning the election of 2010 together with Ahmed M. Mahamoud Silanyo. Both are members of the Peace, Unity, and Development Party. Somaliland issues its own passports, which are not recognised by any country, although neighbouring states Djibouti and Ethiopia accept them as unofficial travel documents. http://Here is the link - should you require to refresh your selective memory -

^We are not family - you are from Uluru Rock and I'm from Qarka Qardho So keep your snotty remarks and your snobby traits away from me.

Dr_Osman;793367 wrote: by the way i came from the somali cafe in my area and dealt a huge karbash to some mogadishu and hargeisa boys dissing the state out of envy and jealousy. I am the key Puntland defence in my local cafe!!! im known as ali puntland :D Well, what can one say now? - carry on Ali Puntland - as you were!

^Typical Somali political junky - English 'acronyms' are now worn as accolades to be proud of and used to show off to others. Osman - I would rather have a police force that was capable of enforcing law and order than all the acronyms that you can think. A security apparatus that can quickly stop clan feuds getting out of hand, apprehend criminals and ensure that all citizens are treated equal before the law of the land. But I take it you would rather have fancy and strong sounding acronyms and none existent equipments so you can rant to others

Carafaat;793077 wrote: Me too. Don't listen to Sayid, everyone knows why he opposes it and he is wrong. The fact that his Adeero's doesn't play any significant role for the first time in 10 years should not matter. Put his Adeero in the dog seat if that means a step forward, I say. You do not know me at all be it in person or my online persona - so let me educate you a bit about me - in hope that in future you will not make wild accusations against me. Regarding my Adeerro - It suffices to say that the closest adeer to me at moment in the somali political quagmire is Siilaanyo (for my father's half brothers are members of Siilaanyo's sub-sub clan) :cool: consequently, my adeerro have always played 'significant role' as you put in the history of the somali peninsular - whilst you and your uncles are left to comment on the side lines

^must you ruin every thread with that incessant pissant contest of yours?

Talk to people about themselves and they will listen for hours.

A good interpreter can take a piece of bad music and make it sound pretty decent, while a bad interpreter can take good music and make it sound cheap. I can tell that some people have a bad taste, and unlike on the piano, they smear around a lot, that is bad taste. Ruggiero Ricci Talk is cheap!

^it is more likely that you will join Qardho, then Qardho is to join Somaliland

Slander! Really? - you'll have to prove that in the court of SOL gallery and in Arabic. What was is that Nelson Mandela said: "If you talk to a man in a language he understands, that goes to his head. If you talk to him in his language, that goes to his heart."

Carafaat;792593 wrote: -Puntland, Eventhough Faroole is the biggest advocate for a Federal Somalia and seeing himself representing the State. Looking closer Puntland is a mere clan alliance rather then a State. Not even having nor seeking mandate of all Galkacyo or Mudug. Does Faroole even represent Northern Galkacyo as Farmaajo stated that he doesn't and he he didn't even visit since 2009. Golgogob even founded its own State and the Puntland State even being uncapable of resolving issue's within the alliance in Mudug, Bari, SSC, Maakhir, Ras Caerys. And some even Qardho saying they want their own State. This proves that even Puntland can't even be regarded as a Federal State being unable to reach consensus over its political construct, to seek nor gain mandate of its constituency or control its territory. And groups seeking support from TFG as they have been unable to work things out with the same political construct representing them. Your whole argument is lost with bringing Qardho into your argument On serious note: If Somalis can add baris and baasto together with banana and called it "Federation" - By God they can have federal regions - provided all somalis can share it like they share the food.

^Naive!

^^Is that how much you hate Arabic?

Taleexi - Somalis are not coming together per say - but certain people are getting together on the pretext that they want to help Somalis and some somali leaders are invited - I am not sure how much of their views (the somalis) would be taken into account, but some would be more articulate then others and i am not sure if that would translate into actions that they want thought. We can only wait and see and hope for the best and prepare for the worst (if we can)

^^You seem to be in tandem with Andrew Harding of BBC and his three reasons to help Somalia; Terror, Piracy and Plight of the poor on here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16970982 if have not read it yet.

^link please?