^^^Right :rolleyes: Perhaps you will like to change your name to just that! lol @bring the wall down :rolleyes:

Yey and Riyaale are on the same boat.And they have common enemy,Islam, I am not surpised if Yey comes to Hargaisa,or Riyale goes to Mogadisho! ^ so true the enemy of your enemy is your new friend Jaclo I hope inaad laabaad kaab kuu toortiid if you ever see them, he is coming to dip his bloody hands near his old friend :rolleyes:

^^^clearly not! lol

^^^Lool^^ Same old circle every year soomaah :rolleyes: That train is never late Me Get off your high horses, lol. No one tired to argue with you about Somalinimo or anything else for that matter, By your own definition somalinimo does not exist, so what is there to prove, yes it is an ideal, but not a reality, get over it, and do your best to move forward. No mud slinging, no BS just the real thing, lets discuss the underlying issues,lets discuss what the real reasons are why you want my people to seperate from the rest of the Somali nation. I await to hear from these people who took away your people ( like some sheep herd ) and got them separated from the Somali nation ..... now why did I always think it was them who choose their own destiny :confused: How did we make up, if we never had a burst up dear? Giidaar loomaa sheekeyo, :cool:

^^^YOu probably scared him by verbal attacking him once, it scared him for life, what did I tell you, be gentle

^^^lool^^ MS D & D: I did not say it was the right thinking dee, I just told you how they think << you know I have an insight knowledge since my masculine name I don't think anyone or anything can control you or your sexual tendcy, apart from yourself: married or unmarried

^^Chances are if she slept with him, she would sleep with others, wedding vows or not! ducks

. ^^Illegal from Islamic point of view or by law? From an Islamic point of view, It is the act which is haram and the main issue rather than the operation which will be associated with lies and pretence of being a virgin hence misleading her husband.

^^Right, and i guess by boycotting Hargisa and bring down their achievements of people (where ever they are is going to help us move forward).... now why did not think of that one To be honest the people who make the changes, who struggle to make the changes in the most depressing conditions do not need you or me or anyone else to pi*ss on their hard work. You and I have not done anything constructive for Somalia (and if you have please miiska soo dig and I shall snatch my words back (thinking is not a contribution)) It is the people who live there who need to determine their progress, and if they need baby steps so be it. How can " me”Who is too afraid to even pay them a visit be able to say anything be their future, he needs to overcome his demons before he can be any use to them or somalinimo.

^^^It is very common here in London as well, I mainly come across Arab women (Kuwait’s) who come here to have it done.

^^Keep your deals for another time dear, right now they are just trying to stay alive, I know you are thinking reach for the sky and you will touch the clouds, but sadly in this world, things take a bit longer. It is a working progress, by dismissing the progress you are taking two steps backwards and one forward. So acknowledge the progress in Hargisa, they are the closest we have at the moment to a free, fair and just society (by the way fair and justice are not always mutually compatible) sometimes to be fair you have to be unjust. Give it a few more years and hopefull there could be many more Hargisa’s in the horn of Africa. ps. Yes I am comparing myself to Ghandi and Mandela. :rolleyes:

^^ideal yes, Realistically I know it does not exist, so I don't waste my time with "ifs" in life or ideals. I am a realist, you carry on with your idealist mentality, I make use of what is available and do what I always do, find a way. is that direct enough for ya

^^How about a helping hand? Ms D &D okay honey, anytime Paragon: There was 2somalian brothers that use to work in Islam channel, very high up one of them, it might be an idea to go through them if they still work their, I'll PM you their names and e-mail address along with M. Ali when i get home form work 2day inshallah. lol @old lady @mpacuk Adam sims is really nice guy. lol, i know him from all the complains i use to send in regarding their pro Isreal coverage.

^^^Read reread my post dear, I told you such City does not exist. I told you to respect the views of the people who live their and do not rub your views in their face. (please note that you cannot tear down Somaliland flags from streets, and replace them with The five star flag, and hold a debate about Somalinimo, or try to tell them that Siyad was doctor and they are patients :rolleyes: It is termed as deliberate provocation. and this is what i am telling to avoid... deliberate provocation By the way I told you to hang around with old men and stay away from ciyaal suuq. I would give you that advise even if you were moving to join the Somali community in London.

WHo said intimidation dear? Don't put words in my mouths, I just said don't make your self a target or upset people on purpose. For example I would not go to New York (or any part in America) and say 911 is justifiable, due to all problems and invasions you subject Muslims countries to. If I wear a t-shirt that says "Long live Osama" in London I will get harassed and abused and then arrested within 10mins of leaving my home. If I said Suicide bombing in self defense in excusable I will be arrested and prosecuted. If I said I Love Islam, and walked in certain areas, my end destination will be a hospital, trust me on that one. I'm not from Hargisa nor is my family, but i know i will feel right at home anywhere in the horn inculding Harigsa. As for being killed for clan reasons, I can assure you that Hargisa is multi clan city, don't worry your little head about everything, take a trip there, you might be surprised. you rather live in a free, fair and just city (society)where everyone is treated equaly, where no one should live in fear of intimidation, harrasment That place is called LALA land, it does not exist, my friend CC over in the women section lives there, ask her for directions.

Really dear?? I live in London, the home of "democracy" and we are a lot more restricted than I have suggested above. There are things I cannot say or do, and in certain places I cannot dress a certain way. So please do not get it twisted. If I speak of other African countries, I only have to think of the Slumps in Kenya (right next to the fabulous houses with swimming pools). There is a saying in Somalia I can't remember the exact words, but the English say "when in Rome, act like Romans" Do you what I mean.

Edit: and to finish you sentance. I can't live in Hargaysa because of qabiil reasons and qabyaalad. Well here is a few rules to avoide this problem. 1) Do not write your qabiil on your forehead, or wear a top that says "Bring Siyad back" 2) Hang around with old men 3)Avoid Ciiyaal suuq 4) Don't insult anyone or be rude. Now if my White friend can go to work in Hargansia for 3months and come back well and allive i don't see why a somali should have a problem. 5) Fuuleenimaad isska daah, you will not die before your time or after it for that matter. Then you should be fine

Paragon I am part of MPACUK, so don't worry, all the members are already helping out G. Galloway is a bit hard to get hold of, he has his open surgery on thurs I think, so I'll be popping in to see him then. I worked in Islam Channel last year, so I know the news readers and some of the researches, If you want I can give you the details of M. ALi, (*he is very helpful to brothers, so I’m bit reluctant to approach him) last time he authorized a live donation show for Somalia (when their was the famine) MCB & MAB I would not bother with, they have lost their touch and their statement of support will not carry any weight or mean anything. But i do know I. Bunglawi and his wife, and they will be more than happy to help out so I will contact them if you want. DO you know any one from STOP the WAR Co? I lost my contact, so if you don't know anyone I will just approach them? The socialist are good to have on our side. Does anyone know T. Ramadan, we need him on our campaign, simply because he has a big institution and he does many talks, I met him once at BBc but i don't know if he will remember me, in any case we need to start booking speakers early (at least 1week notice). Al T. Williams might help us (if we stress Black Africans rather than Muslim :rolleyes:

^^^Loool^ This should be interesting to read. I shall join the growing waiting crowed.

AAliyah416 The bus left long time ago dear, catch another ride please, Otherwise open your eyes and read what I said rather than guessing. I know you know the difference between insulting and comments, so please read what I said to him and show me the insults he and you speak of that I made? MAybe I’m going crazy, maybe I cannot comprehend my own words, or maybe y'll just paranoid people. Here let me quote for you how it all Started, see I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you must have missed this. It was three post one after the other, I did not see Red post until I submitted mine, never the less, I did not see a reason to change my post even after seeing his! I open the thread and I see the last reply, and it is someone called Garrad Caanood, I have no idea who the dude is but this is what he wrote: Garaad Caanood I seek islamnimo and somalilinimo, However, red sea you exalt and worship somalilandnimo=tibalism/hatred, colonial legacy British Somaliland, And you worship socalled Somalilandnimo like idol more than islamnimo, keep you idol/british legacy and we will keep our islamnimo, somalinimo, midnimo You support the aggression of snm militia against people of SSC, you have so much hatred for Somalis from specific regions like SSC, People in SSC decided to stay as an integral part of united Somalia, and I support their wise decision, people from SSC don’t recognize the old British colony, but some still worship for British colonials Ma rabno inaano wax ku darsano your snm militia (Somaliland) I’m like “what the “F…” is this dude on! this here above^ has no substance or meaning, who is this “we” he speaks of anyway? And how on earth does somalilandnimo =tribalism/ hatred, last I knew it was just a region with many different tribes, who have had (like southern Somali) their own civil wars, when did they become a united clan who sole purpose is to “hate” Somalinimo, they are just poor people struggling to make ends meet and better themselves, and most do not give two toss anyway but their family, they just want to live their life, without conflict and some stability. What kind of crazy *** accusations is that anyway. Then Red sea said looooooool...Garaad Canood, inadeer maad iska kay daysid. Sowtii aan heshiinay. Okay I will keep whatever that I have, as long as you promise you will keep yours. I do also respect the wishes of the people of Sool, Eastern Sanaag and some parts of Togdheer like Cayn. Yes I do. NOw, abti, take it easy. ^^^Now exactly what I am suppose to criticise him for here??? He did not say anything about somalinimo or insult the legacy & history of different people. So show me what I am suppose to object to? Especially as I did not see his post until I posted mine! And I said Garaad Caanood ^^^^Wow Lovely Insults dear^ I can see you have so Much love for everyone No wonder everyone is falling over each other to reach your welcoming arms Sometimes people need to read their verbal vomit before exposing them to the public. ish...... Now where is the insult in my comment, sure I am being sarcastic, this was page 13, for the next 4pages G. Caanood consistently refereed to my unfair attack on him and not red sea to justify his insults leveled at me. Further more AAlyia You should stand by truth and the Xaaq honey, Don’t get it twisted, if this was the case, you would have objected to how Garaad jumped from post to pillar to try and dig whatever he can up, with cheap shots at me being a women and not able to speak with men should be enough to annoy any women, add his arrogance and lack of comprehension. Add all this up, how on earth do you expect me to debate with someone who thinks women are second class citizens :rolleyes: As for my time in the Politics section, hmmmmm....

^^^YEP You are right there my friend. Neither, look or act like anyone, there are no gender roles as far as i am concerned.

^^If you have not heard the somali voice by now, then you will never hear it, because you do not want to hear, in fact you don't care about their voice, what they think or want. Their voice has never been so loud and clear.

^^^The TFG ha pulled it off, it has given its self the space and time needed to reconstitute all the nationa institutions first those that deal with security and uphold the law. Security and law was fine before they came along, the same hand that has destroyed and cannot at the same time fix or even claim to fix. What can a few guys who live out of other people A*ss’s fix? :rolleyes:

^^^That is the most painful stick you can beat someone with, I remember when i was little and my edo use to tell me to go and get the stick she was going to beat my *** with

^^You must be kidding dear, Even i know that when Ethiopia leaves, TFG (at least the key members) better hitch a ride with their friends. Now the TFG has the space, and time to build up a real national armed forces one that has not been seen in decades. that is the quote of the day That is all Somalia needs, a national armed forces built by TFG, now why did I not think of that one...To do what I wonder, wipe a couple more 1000s people off :rolleyes: