Ngonge quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My two flags remain under my bed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of those flags should not be under your bed for the simple reason it has the kalima written on it. Stick it up on the sitting room wall saxib I'm sure you get plenty of stick for your fence sitting already ps i'm sure there are plans to go to the 18th May events Lool North So that is how you get people to take out the flag! lol All Somali problems stem from Somaliland regardless of Somalinimo not being present pre-civil war Come again? Ngonge: an opportunist then eh

loool @looking up to YEY to take them out of their statelessness I laughed until I cried when I read that. You sure are funny Nayruus. lol. By any chance can you introduce me to these people who are looking up to YEY all the way from Hargisa to take them out of statelessness. lol. I would love to meet one.

More like they got rid of one Shidan, and got another one in its place. I wonder why Somali people are so easy to celebrate before the individual even steps into office and does anything, how do you know this one is going to be better than the last. I hope history does not repeat it self, and in a few years/ months we will not see these same people in worse conditions. Y'll should hold your horses, and celebrate when there is something to celebrate about, i.e. when he has proven he is not just another snake.

Castro: Sorry corrected, an honest typo my nick is not "woman" either When he does show up, I can see his head growing in both directions with disbelieve lol

lool Paragon Castro to the rescue I see :rolleyes: lol I cannot believe this thread turned into find Ngonge position. lool people eh?

^^^ lool you guys are well funny! I'm done with you guys. lol

!^^And don't forget just because someone has the skills to play for both sides, it does not mean they don't have a side, if you force them to choose sides too early it achieves nothing. Ms D Neutral claims are always false, everyone is more inclined to one idea or the other, fair maybe, and someone who is fair will never sit on the fence. But then as "Me" would say it is good to know who is on your side

^^^I don't have any doubts dear, I'm just suprised Red sea poor judgement in this case, it is good to have people who look like they are sitting on the fence, Save the Shove for when you really need it

NG, since you put it that way, Why don't I put you on the spot. Are you pro union or pro Somaliland aka 'seccesionists'? loool, I knew that someone was gonna put you on the spot one of these days, no more undercover Ngonge, unless he says, I don't care for either, in Fact it does not matter to me! lol Ngonge take the easy way out! lol

Market :rolleyes: I hate that word. Yes religion is the end of your road, but...but... Oh never mind. I give up.

^^Justice Why do you have to get religion involved It shuts all opinion off and forces you to accommodate a view which you would not otherwise consider at all! Kind of makes me wonder what kind of person I would have been if I was not a Muslim?. Alhumdulilah. Ms. D& D and Justice & co, we get the point, we really do. Now take a break, I hope you manz are paying you for this… ( and I’m not talking about money either ) I even found a for you guys. Don't worry about the images, just the song

Ngonge, lol are you scared that you will given a label and put in a box in Political SOL discussion. Okay i won't press on.

^^YOu asked for that one, did you not! lool. sorry. Kabaha xiidoo naa daaf, then when you come back complaining, I will laugh my self silly, that goes for the all the pro marriage people on this thread. lool.

^^^CCNow days you are starting to sound normal lool Paragon Right look who is talking, why don't you stop preaching and walk the walk! Then. p.s. You ideas are slightly old fashion as well. we would ve been born and exchangeing replies. Lool @hard to cope later :rolleyes:

^^even worse exchange. The ideal exchange is no exchange what so ever. Everyone keeps their own things and does their own thing so nno to your friend. Thanks for the offer though! loll

^^^That always cracks me up. two extremes. lool @afhayeen

^^Come again?? How so, it is still the same discussion nooh?

Ms D &D lool : @dream man! I would not call that a dream man, well not mine anyway There is nothing more I hate then an attentive, loving and thoughtful man, it does me head in, talking about making you feel disabled, useless, cramped, suffocated and smothered. I start having panic attacks and irresistible urge to run as fast and as far as possible without looking back. So yes it is a really BAD exchange. So I'm not a Feminst, just a Xanthusist

^^I was talking about forward looking "free" countries, not places were oppression is still the name of the game. Egypt I'm not familiar with but Saudi I am, and take a look at it now. Only reason it is still standing is because few wealthy institutions, economy etc, but as a society they are falling apart, at an alarming rate. hamstrung you with "traitor" did, well what do you call soemthing that uses the old enemy to beat his brothers head?

Ngonge, Me, emotional? surely not! Hypothetical situation or not, even the thought is distressing enough. I doubt he can achieve any of the things you have listed, there is only so far a racist ideology can take you after all, even if you have the biggest & baddest clan south side. One cannot prevail after setting themselves so many traps and failures, especially as Somali people have elephant memories and hard heads. If I live long enough I doubt I would see anyone recording him for anything other than an *I*D*O*I*T, power hungry murdering ……etc When have you EVER seen in history, a time when the traitors have prevailed and were welcome backed into the original community?. You are a smart man, dig me an example if you can find it, because I sure cannot. A traitor cannot dominate and successfully rule the same community he sold out!

Ngong^^^^Hmmm interesting way of looking at things

Paragon :rolleyes: Do I look like the kind that looks down when i'm talking. You must be mistaken! WHy on earth do i want to be a good girl, if that is a good girl, then i'm through with trying to be good! MS D &D: Sis all men are sod's, sorry I'm sure your hubby is fine, but seriously speaking, I don't believe these people, Shaaqolaanan baadaan daakuu, raaliyo kuulaah, lool. Nice names for dirty work!. lool @beck &call. lool, now that made me laugh!

Do you think that after they fought for so long and so much, and solicited help from outside to gain power and control, After all that do you REALLY think they will roll over after two years. It will be a dictatorship, and that is the reality, and they will continuing oppressing people like the criminals they are. More control, more power to them and their friends. You must have noticed sis the Somali Political scene is made up of Warlords/ criminals. I guess your uncles are more forgiven than others and they are able to think outside the box, and think that no one should have to go through losing their kids like they did, because regardless they will never get their family back. To be honest I have only come across one person who thinks like that, but many people I have come across will rather die then be ruled by those who are killing them.

What is peace for one individual who has no one left to share that peace with? Has the cost not been too dear to pay for that said peace? What "Peace" you will enjoy when you are living under the same people who crushed your world and wiped out your family. Indeed Put yourself in their position. It is easy for someone who did not lose anyone or anything in the process of achieving peace to take that peace regardless of the circumstances it was achieved in, But for those who lost everything or their loved ones (the majority of Somali’s)

^^Oh shush you! Don't curse me like that! :rolleyes: There is a thin line between "pleasures to serve your husband" and being a "doormat" for a little sod!