Ibtisam

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  1. Steven Gerrard autobiography is boring, I was expecting more. NGonge, order my copy (but finish it first and tell me if it is worth it)
  2. I was at a talk she did recently, I run up to her (remembered her from my childhood) and said to her, "hello" do you remember me, she politely told me a firm “No” ( I think she thought I was about to ask for something!) lol. I remember her and her sister both use to work for the UN back then, don't know about now. She was a nice lady. Ngonge, Why on earth did you think she looks Sudanese?? She looks as Somali as one can get!
  3. This was an opportunity for Daallo to be part of the history in-making It is scary enough landing (Daaloo) during the day time, let alone at night! Forget that one. JAc make sure you say good bye to everyone and write your will before getting on daaloo at night!.
  4. Wow, lol you guys are so evil OUCH. She deserves it and she works hard in her campaign and gets a lot of stick for it. Well done to her.
  5. Sweety, :rolleyes: The level of competition in a sector has nothing to do with judging someone's success in life? Why did I think education encouraged diversity and open-mindedness. No one asked you to be their friend just don't pass any judgement on them. In the real world lawyers, doctors, traders, consultants and engineers are a whole category of different sectors lumped together and cannot therefore be pinned against just one sector for comparison (athletics) [ August 06, 2007, 01:03 PM: Message edited by: Ghanima ]
  6. North that is what they all say. :rolleyes: Ngonge, isn't everyone on some one side, regardless of their claimed position or how impartial they appear, after all he is a Somali guy, why did you expect him not to sacaab gaaraca for someone?
  7. looool, loool @north, dude please please come up with something better than that, I'm sure you learnt something else!!
  8. North why would u even want to get involved in politics :rolleyes: here i was thinking you can do some underground work with the people. But you and JB seem to be after titles
  9. ^^Not like there are any other possible options anyway, so yeah they might as well try it. :rolleyes: trail and error is very scary when it is used to run a country though!
  10. Hopefull an easy transition. People should really be more open minded, and give each other a chance :rolleyes:
  11. Jacaylbaro lord have mercy, I can see some some new colours in your politics, a somali never changes his true colours so maah! You need to move the power aorund a little dear, so everyone can benefit.
  12. It is awfully close minded to try and categorise what is, and what is not a successful life. What makes a footballer or let’s just say an athlete less successful then a lawyer? they both pay their way, have their own problems to deal with and enjoy the highs and lows of their chosen path, one physically works hard, while the other mentally excises his brain. The whole superior complexity of this issue is getting to me. :rolleyes: I see a lot of hard work Somali youngsters, who are focused and dedicated to whatever is important to them or whatever goal they have set themselves. Not everyone aspires to the same or even similar things in life, and as long as they don’t harm anyone in the process, good luck to them. On the other hand, there are many youngsters who are a bit lost, aimless looking for direction and too scared of their own community, without any facilitates to help them or address their problems, so they turn to the streets etc. They need us to reach out to them not isolate them and cast them out. It is our fault (as a society)that these youngsters have lost their way, the parents for losing touch with their kids. Until we have facilities and organisations who can address those issues, the future of the Somali people in the UK will dramatically change, as 2nd 3rd and 4th generations Somalis are born.
  13. Y'll welcome He was an amazing man indeed, May allah reward him and grant him a high place in jannah. P.s. Where is Ngonge, wuuxu kuu faaniyo Liverpool weeyan
  14. ^^is that it for the pictures?? I'm still holding my breath for the good ones, can you hurry with them before i pass out!
  15. I remember the first time I read that porn channels/ sites get most of their customers from Middle East and Asia I was a bit taken back. But after having thought about it is not surprising as in these areas sex is such big taboo within the society. Cubaacka and north I don't think they need anymore control and police state, what they need is a change of social approach to the subject, certain level of openness and education. People tent to run to things that they are not allowed to do in any case.
  16. North I hope that us not you with the suicidal driving!, I think I stop breathing for a moment there! Bad taste in Music the beach looks fab.
  17. Forgotten champion of Islam: One man and his mosque. A crumbling house in Liverpool conceals a curious secret: the vandalised remains of Britain's first mosque. Now, finally, the city is set to restore it - and to honour the eccentric lawyer who created it. Number 8 Brougham Terrace in Liverpool is a derelict semi-detached house. Its whitewashed facade is filthy, its front door scratched and swollen and its rear gates are covered in graffiti. Pigeons have made the roof their home. The condition of the interior is even worse. Large, orange rings of dry-rot fungus cling to the walls. Pieces of the roof are scattered across the floor. There is little to suggest that No 8 Brougham Terrace is anything special. But underneath the dust and the mould is a building of extraordinary historical and social significance. This was Britain's first true mosque. And following years of neglect, it could finally be about to receive the restoration treatment that, given its place in the nation's history, it surely deserves. The Bishop of Liverpool has called for action. The Saudi and Kuwait governments are interested in helping to fund a project that would cost £2.4m. With Liverpool gearing up to be European Capital of Culture next year, the plight of the forgotten mosque is attracting attention again. That, in turn, has shed light on the astonishing character who founded it on Christmas Day 1889. William Quilliam was a solicitor. But in late 19th century Britain there was no other solicitor quite like him. He is said to have appeared in court wearing Turkish ceremonial dress. Others claim he travelled through Liverpool on a white Arab horse, or that he was descended from a first lieutenant who fought with Nelson at Trafalgar. Such stories may well be apocryphal, yet Quilliam was a man whose life needs no embellishing. Few religious figures have championed their faith the way the man who became Sheikh Abdullah Quilliam did. He did so despite often facing hostility from his own countrymen. He was made the Sheikh of Britain by the last Ottoman emperor, converted hundreds to his religion, and was honoured by the Sultan of Morocco, the Shah of Persia and the Sultan of Afghanistan. The mosque at 8 Brougham Terrace was his crowning achievement. Born in 1856, Quilliam was the son of a wealthy watchmaker, and became a solicitor after training at the Liverpool Institute. But life as a lawyer took its toll on Quilliam and in 1882 he travelled to the south of France to recover from stress. While he was recuperating, he decided to cross the Mediterranean to Morocco and Algeria and it was there that his fascination with Islam began. At the age of 31 he converted to the religion, changed his name to Abdullah and bought a marmoset as a pet. "He never went anywhere without that monkey," said Quilliam's granddaughter, Patricia Gordon. "It used to sit on his shoulder. He had a little fez made for it and would even take it to the British Museum when he was studying there. He was an old Victorian eccentric. He was his own man and he did what he wanted to do all his life. When he walked into a room, everyone would go quiet. He was a very colourful character." His love of exotic animals turned his home into a zoo - he reportedly kept a jackal, a wolf, a fox and even a crocodile. For Quilliam, his own conversion was just the start of his loud and proud association with Islam. He soon found he had the knack of convincing others of its merits. He first began holding lectures on his new religion and then founded the Liverpool Mosque and Institute in the small semi on Brougham Terrace, West Derby Street, in 1889. Within 10 years of his return to the city, he assembled a following of about 150 Muslims, almost entirely made up of British converts. Scientists and professionals were among Quilliam's group, along with his sons and his mother, who had spent most of her life as a Christian activist. He also produced two journals, The Crescent and The Islamic Review, on a printing press in the mosque's cellar. Both were circulated internationally. But Quilliam's misssion did not stop at publishing. He set out to help ease Liverpool's social ills, founding the Medina Home, which cared for illegitimate children and found them foster parents. He set up the Muslim College, a weekly debating society and also wrote a book of Muslim hymns in English. He still found time to write a book. The Faith of Islam was published in 1899 by a small local printer and was translated into 13 languages, with three editions published. Quilliam proudly said that it had been read by Queen Victoria and the ruler of Egypt. But not everyone appreciated Quilliam's vigour. Soon after he converted to Islam, he was evicted from his house by his landlord, who took exception to his rejection of Christianity. The timing of his book on Islam compounded the vitriolic hatred that some in the Christian community felt for him. "The ongoing conflict with Sudan meant that the very mention of Islam in Britain was like a red rag to a bull," says Professor Humayun Ansari, an expert in British Islamic history from Royal Holloway College, London. Quilliam was never one to go quietly and launched a series of attacks on the British government. When the Prime Minister, William Gladstone, was due to give a speech in Liverpool urging action against the Ottoman Empire for its treatment of Armenians, Quilliam leapt to the emperor's defence. He gathered his congregation at the mosque to make a rival speech, during which he declared the West was quite happy to ignore "Christian atrocities" elsewhere. "An American explodes a bomb in the crowded streets of Constantinople and slays innocent women and children and, because he calls himself a Christian he is extolled in England as a hero and as a patriot!" Quilliam wrote. "An Afghan fights for his fatherland in the Khyber Pass, and because he is a Muslim he is denounced as a traitor and a rebel." According to Professor Ansari, Quilliam paid a price for his stance. "Of course, he was lampooned, but it showed that he was a courageous man, as well as a controversial figure. Although other English people had converted, they tended to keep a low profile. Quilliam on the other hand was much more forthright and challenging, making him a high-profile public figure in the process." Unsurprisingly, Quilliam developed a difficult relationship with the press. The Liverpool Review described his quest to convert the city to Islam as "silly and unwelcome". He became a regular contributor to the letters pages, attempting to right what he saw as the incorrect popular view of Islam, derived from myths dating back to the Crusades. He wrote: "When we consider that Islam is so much mixed up with the British Empire, and the many millions of Muslim fellow subjects who live under the same rule, it is very extraordinary that so little should be generally known about this religion. And consequently the gross ignorance of the masses on the subject allows them to be easily deceived, and their judgement led astray." His outspoken stance also made his mosque a target of abuse. During one confrontation, a crowd of 400 protesters gathered outside the building, hurling mud, stones and rotten vegetables at those leaving the prayer hall. In 1895, a group threatened to burn Quilliam alive. His efforts to promote Islam brought him praise and powerful friends throughout the Muslim world. The Shah of Persia made him a consul to his country. In 1894, Sultan Abdul Hamid II, the last Ottoman emperor, gave Quilliam the title of "Sheikh al-Islam of Britain", leader of British Muslims. The Sultan of Afghanistan gave him a £2,500 "personal gift", to help him continue his good works. By the turn of the century, Quilliam had developed ambitious plans to build a mosque from scratch, complete with a dome and minarets. But true to his eccentric character, he took a sudden decision in 1908 to leave Britain, mysteriously heading back to the east and not returning until shortly before his death in 1932. When Quilliam left Britain, he took with him the energy that had sustained his one-man mission so successfully. Without him at the helm, the institutions he had set up declined, including the mosque. It eventually ended up in the hands of Liverpool City Council. When the authority moved out, it fell further into disrepair, "probably because water got in after thieves took the lead from the roof", said Galib Khan, a leading member of the group attempting to restore the mosque. Mohammad Akbar Ali, chairman of the Abdullah Quilliam Society set up to campaign for the restoration, added: "Quilliam officially opened it on Christmas Day in 1889 with a special breakfast for 130 of the city's children." A fundraising meeting earlier this month was attended by the ambassadors of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. But for Mr Ali, there is a wider principle behind finding British money to restore Abdullah Quilliam's legacy. "Part of the problem faced by young British Muslims now is that they have no Islamic heritage they can truly call their own," he said. "When Muslims born and bred in the UK want to revisit their Islamic roots, they go back to the countries of their ancestors like India, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. But Quilliam is proof that Britain has its own Islamic heritage. Repairing his mosque with British money, either from the Government or the Muslim community, would act as a powerful symbol of British Islam. It is a religious heritage that all British Muslims can be proud of." The Bishop of Liverpool, the Right Rev James Jones, is now patron of the fundraising campaign. He admits that being asked to take up the cause presented a "theological challenge" to him, but he was compelled by Quilliam's example. "One of the challenges in today's world is concentrating on the best examples of each other's religions and finding common ground," he said. "Quilliam was a man who did a huge amount of good work that all religious leaders should appreciate and the campaign to restore his institute is worth supporting, both nationally and locally." Source: news.independent.co.uk
  18. ^^^ I don't think he even read the 1st post, let alone the whole post! lol
  19. ^^^Everyone, and London is way behind, I hear they have the opposit problem, too many people straving, heading for size 000.
  20. ^^^Lol^^^ I cannot believe You! I thought we had a deal serenity! :rolleyes: BOB. That bad eh?, well in my defense there is "no way you can translate Somali proverb into English and still expect it to have the same significance just like the English proverb would make no sense when translated into Somali." So it was your fault for asking!
  21. Look who is back, Hunguri! The dad of hijacking threads! Hello. Serenity lool, beady eyes aah, lool, cheers women!. << better.
  22. Ibtisam

    I Hate....!

    Hade haduusan calafkooda galin, ma dadkey xagxaganaayaan...I've seen quite a few of those, and once I sense they have the "if-only syndrome", I rub it on their faces Looool, HAHAH. I have yet to meet one of these. Most people are hot and bothered but cheerful in weddings. lool @ dadkey xagxaganaayaan Kool_Kat, weddings can be simple, I went to a friends wedding last year, she had 20, yes 20 guest only and the wedding finished at 9pm (before you ask she was somali and so was the guy) I loved, I think it is the best wedding I've ever been to!. so i guess it is possible
  23. ^^I'll take that^ as you backing down! loool HAHA. Thanks. runs before serenity changes her mind
  24. OH LOWD islaanta, Lets see what you can do other than make excuses. I'm sick of you mouthing on and on about how good your Somali is, even though you can hardly string two words together!! I think one of these days timahaa aayan kaa riifayah in Somali! :rolleyes: P.s. I'm thinking of opening a thread openly challenging you, for all to see your shameful attempts!