they don't have to anything about mogadishu, mogadishu, should do something about mogadishu. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Very wise words ......... but we are still ready to help if they really want help. What is so wise about that?? It is utter rubbish. It is everyone's responsibility to help mogadishu solve it's problems. They are like your sisters, mothers, ayyeoos and they should not be abandoned to people who abuse, murder and target them daily just because it is not your reality. Those who stand by and watch oppression are as guilty as the oppressors, and Allah will punish every oppressors, silent watchers and supporters. Somali will be in turmoil until we learn to stand up against all oppression whether it affects us or not. Red Sea This is a ridiculous argument, I don’t know why you feel the need to even justify it. Somalilanders are not all the same, you have some who care and about the fate of Somalis as whole and those who don’t, same way you have Southern Somalis who feel proud that least some parts of what use to be Somali wyen has peace and stability and hope that it will extend out to the rest, while others hope and pray that it collapses and flops and deteriorates into a civil war. On both sides, only they know what they get by wishing misery on others.

Lool @Ngonge, We did take pictures of people, we just don't post them on public forums, although I took pictures of strangers who insisted and said it was good luck and they might come to the UK as results and I should circulate their pictures. North did not also tell you, “when you die, you have to breath a soul into these things you are taking pictures of and bring it to life” they even tell you off for taking pictures of the plants and animals. Lovely pictures. :cool:

Who said Shydan can walk in water. Islamicly it is understood that these people work with the aid of shiydan to mislead the human eyes into seeing things that are not there. Like Pharaohs saaxirs with their snakes as detailed in the Quran. But then I saw this clip of his And I freaked out, I thought here comes the dijaal (I really should stop ending those end of time books, I’m getting paranoid) so I checked my books again, and he needs to be able to cut her in half straight down her body to be the diijaal. :cool: Things like this always freak me OUT. :eek:

She does^ indeed look good. No idea who the others are though. Kahina lool, you walked right into that one! lool@ dabshid, you are worse than reer Burco boys, inanta iidaa haa kaa riidin

^^^Lool^ I kind of understood most of that. I guess my Somali must be good :rolleyes: Jac where is this SOL, if it is the same place I hang out during my work hrs, then stop misleading people! you cannot learn how to "SPEAK" somali there!. Adna, only thing I have seen is the Somali-English dictionary! she is better off going to Somalia for 1week. she'll come back better than few people i know. Other wise she just needs to surround her self with people who can only speak somali, iiyaga saaxiiga keen toon after that.

Ask me things as I walk in about happenings of what is already inside. Let me get to my office you freak! :mad: That was nearly 2hrs ago and I'm still mad lol. Bad manners annoy me to no ends, everything else I can deal with.

Well my spoken is better than my written If you insist, but I make the same claim. North: I noticed you kicked off a controversy with your link, then kicked back and watched the fight. Let me put you on the spot and force you to show your cards, Shall I? Hmmm on second thought, I better not.

How simplistic, It almost sounds tenable situation

How nice, :rolleyes: Younge assumed and based his whole argument on Bush being a One man rule and a one man show. The truth could not be further. It makes little difference who rules America next, The have already committed to an agenda for the foreseeable future.

I cannot believe you of all people are taking the mick out of my somali, what is this world coming to, soon Ngonge is going to add his two little cents. Shaaqa laan baa iidin haasa P.s. dadkan waalan I'm sure that is ficaanyah.

^^Bisinka, you could have warned me, I opened the link, and was confronted by a bunch of naked, apron wearing, old, white people! I was thinking Oh Lord, what kind of site did she send me to!. lol, Cheerful green things that look very scary, might try it when my skin starts to behave normally! lol Thanks Sophi. Ha hero, Olive Oil you say, hmmm, interesting. Thanks Khania. Lol, are you seriously saying people go and see their doctor to tell them they are changing their eating habits , I guess you have a nice GP, mine will be like, "and? your point is? lol She is so rude it is unbelievable. Not to mention, TIME to do this. Plenty of fluid is always good, not sure about water though. Thanks

^^Daad waalan. Like Val I'm thinking what the hell was wrong with her to start with, marrying rudy, talking about fast tracking your life to doom. :rolleyes: I don't understand how some ladies marry anything and everything, then they really have no one to blame but iyaad. :rolleyes: I assume the girl must have been visiting her aunty when the old man made the move,happens alot..men What is wrong with the girl, whether he made a move or not is irrelevant really, what was she doing responding to her edo's husband, aduuka niin muu kaa damaad. :rolleyes: some people just deserver a real sever beating. That is just plain wrong.

:rolleyes: I don't get these people. He was NAKED when he answered the door, what did she expect? naag waalan. :rolleyes

Ngonge lol, Akha, would you behave! :rolleyes: MS DD I could not agree more!.

Loool. This is indeed, sad funny.

Come on do we really need to go down this road. Just respect that different people have different views and opinions, and it is not for you to approve or even like their view, arag ooh daaf. It is a blessing to learn basic manners and communication skills. Nephthys attention seeker is what I see, don't be the provider underdog He is not solving a problem with a second wife in that case is he now?? Avoidance is a childish way of dealing with problems, he should be able to communicate whatever it is to his wife and work it out, no one said it was going to be smooth sailing. Further more there is nothing to say his new wife will be everything and more is there now?

Adopt a baby, there are enough kids in the world that need homes and looking after. In fact adopt as many as you possible can. Ethical you ask, depends on who’s ethics you are interested in.

Hamas expressed readiness on Monday to open dialogue with the West after calls by Italy's prime minister for it to do so. Romano Prodi suggested in an address that Hamas' existence was a fact and that the group must be integrated into the political process rather than excluded. Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri responded by saying "Prodi's statements coincide with other positive European officials' statements." Zuhri noted that several British parliamentarians had criticized London's negative position on Hamas. "Such positive stances came after Europe and the West realized how fatal their mistake was when they decided to boycott the movement," said Zuhri. Hamas took control of the Gaza Strip in mid June when it defeated Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement and security forces. "We hope that the calls to launch a dialogue with Hamas would find an echo and would lead to fruitful results," said Zuhri. "We reiterate our concerns and readiness for an opened dialogue with the West." Source: haaretz.com

^ Val You have had allergies for a while then, how do you deal with it, it is even affecting my moods, and although its only been a week it is driving me up the wall already. Scray thought indeed. I went to book an allergy test yesterday, they lady said next appointment is in 3weeks! then another three weeks for the results to be ready!. I was like What, I am hoping it will be gone by then!. Jim: diinsi?? no I have not, It is not my face, so i won't try any of your stuff, I would not know where to get them anyway, and FB has scared me already! Soph I have, they gave me a bunch of products (expensive or what!) perfume free, fragrance free I hate them already. Lily I use the simple range normally anyway. Hopeful I should still be good to use them, and for the moment I’m stuck on spraying my clothes instead of my skin. Shumey lol. Okay Thanks all.

Lilyeey, all of the above symptoms apply to me, so should I get my husband a second wifey...lol ^I second that, :cool: one more excuse miya, soon if you have a flu you would have to tell your husband before hand so he does not expect a wrapped up new wife. As Kool Kat said I'll be singing This Generally as someone already said, if your Hemoglobin is lower than 10.5 you are advised against having kids until it returns to the lower end of normality (12). Val loool, oh go on rant away, but don't blow your lid like Azmya above :cool: Someone should edit her post. :rolleyes: Okay Ms DD: What about you? Are you offering your husband? If your husband got married next week (short notice of what) what would you do?? bare in mind you are a young couple, you are perfectly healthy, normal, doing your duties as wife etc, you have no kids, you are educated and can provide for yourself. Will the fear of not finding a better man keep you in the relationship, or the fact you think he will be fair to both of you. Sorry to put you on the spot, but I’m interested in how far your acceptance of this alien practice goes.

^^What is malmal and have two cups of salamuuko. Adding a little sibir mixed with magaad Sounds serious. Are you pulling my leg??

Lily As north would say "qaadow" meaning you've nailed it My comment about him being scared was suppose to illustrate the absurdity for running ahead of him in arranging his second marriage (i.e. It is as bad as keeping him in chains) I guess I did not express that probably. A man is a bonus, ( hear hear girls not your soul reason for existing in this world, nor even a requirement, so you do not need to be a doormat or live in psychological and emotional torture if the situation is working against you. Nor should you have to degrade yourself as a respectable mother to squabble over a man who does not even respect you enough to discus big plans such as a second wife before getting married.

I recently eating Vegs & Fruits which i never use to eat, and I have stopped eating most junk food. I'm not a flower person, so no. Zenobia, maybe i'm eating too much fruits and vegs too fast and my body wants junk food back. Overexposure, hmmm. Aloe Vera and vitamin e-creams waa waaxa laa iga raace Ms DD, I've been told to use just water for the time being and nothing else. I'm so glade my face is okay ( i should not speak so soon) Like Zenobia I was thinking it must be this crazy weather. Thanks Ms DD and Zenobia, oh and Jac of course ( still looking for that burcad

Yes Ms D &D Yes Lets be honest, 1- There arent many decent blokes out there i.e religious, educated, kind. This is simply not true, there are as many nice guys around as sisters. Guys are always complaining that there are less decent girls around, and girls claim there are not enough decent men. I know a lot of decent men and women 2- You hold on to the good ones Allah blessed you with. I have no problems with this, clearly there would be hardships/ good times/ bad times etc. But if some one shows no consideration, acts like a complete idi*ot, then although the person can still be a “good person” you have to face the fact that they are just not good to you. I don’t see how u can call the above behavior (North friend, who calls his wife and says aarin yaar baa giritah) or the other dude who’s been married 17yrs) you’d think their wife’s deserve at least a notice.? 3- Many sisters are without men. Mainly cos the good ones are taken, those available are younger or they dont want to marry men beneath them (in terms of decency, behaviour etc). As a muslimah you should be concerned for the benefit of the whole community and if you are kind enough to offer your husband another wife that is your call, I have no issue with that, what I have issues with is women who clearly disapprove, hate it, it is making their life a misery, her and the husband barley talk, yet they remain married, and she kicks him out every other week. I mean make up your damn mind, you want him out or in. 4- Kids needs father figure and a decent man wouldnt neglect his child. Broken home is never good for the children. They need the stability, security of a father and mother. If he is so decent he will not neglect his child regardless of marriage. Broken homes are not good for kids, but nor is dysfunctional parents that are always arguing, swearing or even physical fighting as is common in many house holds. This will damage the child more in the long run. 5- Bringing another man inthe house..imagine what this would do to the morale of the kids? Ever heard of a succesful union? What is the other option? Never to remarry? I’m sorry what are you implying, That it is immoral for a women to remarry and bring her husband home? Or that it causes kids confusion, sorry but having two mums is just as confusing and in both situation it takes adjusting to. If your new husband is better than your last, your child might even have a better life/ future. Each to their own indeed.

The British government should talk to "moderate elements within Hamas" and push for the restoration of a Palestinian national unity government, a parliamentary report will recommend. The report by the Commons foreign affairs select committee argues that western sanctions against Hamas, for its refusal to renounce violence and recognise Israel, have been "counterproductive". However, the MPs believe that Tony Blair's appointment as the special envoy for the diplomatic Quartet (the US, the UN, the EU and Russia) provides an opportunity to open up contacts with the radical Palestinian movement. "We recommend that he engage with Hamas in order to facilitate reconciliation amongst Palestinians," the report says. A Foreign Office spokesman said: "We have made clear that we will respond to significant movement by Hamas. We have not said that we will never talk to Hamas. But there have to be some ground rules." Hamas won a majority in the Palestinian election of January 2006, but the Quartet refused to deal with the Hamas government until it accepted the renunciation of violence, the recognition of Israel and the endorsement of existing Israeli-Palestinian agreements. In March, the Saudi government brokered the creation of a Palestinian unity government in Mecca between Hamas and the Fatah movement of Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, but that agreement did not include an explicit acceptance of the principles and neither the EU nor the Quartet agreed to end the isolation of Hamas. The unity government collapsed in June after factional street fighting, leaving Hamas in control of Gaza and Fatah in charge of the West Bank. "In the Mecca agreement, Hamas moved a very long way," Mike Gapes, the foreign affairs committee chairman said yesterday. "It was an opportunity that was missed. Without engaging with Hamas in some form you're not going to get a two-state solution that involves Gaza." Today's report argues that isolation has strengthened the hand of the most extreme wing of Hamas and weakened pragmatists, a process that could be reversed by contacts aimed at persuading the leadership to abide by the principles. Meanwhile, Palestinian officials said there would be a new round of talks between the Palestinian prime minister, Salam Fayyad, and the Israeli foreign minister, Tzipi Livni, in Jericho on Wednesday. Source: guardian.co.uk