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^^^Hmmm, interesting. I'm having a better day Alhumdulilah. It took all nyt, and pain killers for my headach to go away. But alhumdulilah so far so good today, although it is not even 10am yet.

^^ As I understand You can eat up to the adhan (if the adhan happens while you are still eating, you can finish your food). It is dark for a while after we pray, in any case in London we cannot tell because of the clouds, rain etc

^^She fasts that young. I shoul stop complaining! Lool @North Inshallah. I think we get your ready made ones here courtesy of Dahabshil

Sambusa takes too long to make, for such small little things, I'm glade my brother is hardly at home to demand them this year Oh, you can buy ready made frozen ones (sadly you have fry them yourself ) in London, they are nice, but spicy! Kahina I like them once in a blue moon so no idea why the are obsessed with sambusa,(it is the men really, the women just make it, poor sods!)

Lily I cannot believe your day is going so well (mashallah ) you see Lily, I do the same thing as you for Suxuur, but I think that Afur to Afur fasting practice has to go this year, the day is so long!, I cannot believe it is not even 3pm yet, I feel like I'm going to pass out! On a good note, I'm going to change my work hrs 7am till 2pm, as I cannot function at all.

^^how is "thoroughly Modern Muslim" more praise for me, or is it a round about way of saying tell me more.! As in years past, the beloved yet unexpected guest of millions, "Holy Ramadan" once again enters our lives. Muslims are filled with great joy in anticipation of welcoming him. Yet to one unaccustomed, it would almost seem as if Muslims had never met him before! All of a sudden, our new-found love for this guest causes us to radically change our daily schedules and habits to entertain him. Our Mosques mysteriously overflow with worshippers, chapters of the Quran are heard chanted till the wee hours of the morning accompanied by a hail of cries, and our social gatherings and feasts become livelier than ever before - all these sacrifices made to honor this special and 'holy' guest from Allah. Isn't it interesting and ironic that while he is among us, for a full 30 days, we starve, read numerous articles on do's and don'ts of treating this guest, avoid watching TV in his presence, and sing songs or Nasheeds of joy, yet we fail to understand him and the mission of his visit? For some odd reason, this same "Holy Ramadan" becomes a stranger to us on the 1st of Shawwal! What many of us forget is that this guest accompanies a deep purpose and responsibility. It is as Muhammad al-Shareef notes: "Whenever a guest comes to our home, we prepare in advance for his arrival by vacuuming the carpet, dusting the shelves, and scrubbing the sinks. We should do this for our guest of Ramadan as well. But the scrubbing should not just be of our physical surroundings, it should include the scrubbing of our sins!"

^^^I thought you was going to be good thorough out Ramadan yaa Ngonge! :rolleyes: Some good News, All the Muslims started fasting on the same day this year, WOW miracles do happen (there are few who did not, like the Shia's in Iraq, they start 2morrow) but even Pakistan and Iran and Turkey fasted with the rest this year. Mashallah is all I can say Let see if they can have EiD same day.

^^Shuush you are going to ruin my evil reputation can you go and look for your phone, what is this world coming to when I can find you online, but not via phone! P.s.Too bad we hijacked this thread, it was on its way out anyway P.s. I’m trying to get you to stay in London, in case you have not noticed dear So my pleasure. lol

Ngonge Thanks, so it was a crap show glade I forgot to watch it. Zenobia Ramadan Mubarak to you and the whole family P.s. Zenobia I'm organising an Iftar event for the ladies, I'll do it before you go inshallah, so keep it in mind.

KK enjoy, may you see many more happy years inshallah. Old is Gold, so don't worry.

Salam Khalaf, Ramadan baa iga soo qaashi, I would have loved to nail you to the wall Otherwise. I did not watch the program after all, because first night of Ramadan and all I forgot. Ngonge can you do a better summary. P.s. Enjoy your fast people. Salam.

I had bad teachers as well Ngonge!

done by members of the teaching staff You are kidding right?, no wonder kids can hardly speak/ write and understand English these days :rolleyes: On a serious note, I don't agree with him, but I don't agree with handouts, and these charities (some) are contributing to poverty by making them dependent rather than self sufficient, hence the whole new focus on sustainability etc. ME, me, and my country is a morally corrupt way to bring up kids, and I know for sure that people send their kids to school to learn and develop their own mental capability to critically look at the world, not to be forced to hear the angry opinions of their teachers, who wishes to indoctrinate his twisted vision of the world. :mad: Can you report him Kahina? Teachers are not their to making up your mind, but rather help you explore the options.

^^ Perfectly said. Khayr: Listen to Sh. Mustafa Xaji Islmaciils tasfeer (1999) for Surah Al Mutaffafin. I don’t do modern or old interpretations of Islam and I hope I will never join the kind of people who exploit religion to suit their life style. People there is no poitn arguing about this, Islam is not a black and white as somepeople try to make out, whereby people are either free of sin, or condemned to go to Hell. Although you might find it hard to believe, there are gray areas: Firstly repentance, and how can I forget, there is Allah who is Most Gracious, Most Merciful, and who knows our fate. No one should try to condemn and judge people based on what we do not know. Verse 5:48 states, “For each of you, we have decreed laws and different rights. Had God willed, He could have made you one congregation. But He thus puts you to the test through the revelations He has given each of you. You shall compete in righteousness.” So Allah gave us differences so that we may choose and have a choice in the way we lead our lives, each one us will make the choice they think is correct because in the Hereafter we will be our own judges, “The human being will be his own judge. No excuses will be accepted.” 75:14-15: It has been said that we should judge others in the manner that we will want to be judged yourself. Judging people based on their dress, their religion, or appearances rather than their individual beliefs and actions is prejudice. Finally: O you who believe, you should worry only about your own necks. If the others go astray, they cannot hurt you, as long as you are guided. To God is your ultimate destiny, all of you, then He will inform you of everything you had done. (5:105) No soul bears the sins of any other soul. Ultimately, to your Lord is your return,then He will inform you of everything you had done. He is fully aware of the innermost thoughts. (39:7) so the You guys can rest and leave people to Allah. It is not our role to judge or condemn people for their actions. Verse 7:2 states, “This scripture has been revealed to you, you shall not harbor doubt about it in your heartthat you may warn with it, and to provide a reminder for the believers.” You see!! remind and warn people with it, not to judge and condemn people by it. It is our own egos and insecurity that makes us want everyone to do and believe as we do. Naden: That is a cheap shot that achieves nothing, how odd you mock the society these TV programs are aimed at but here you are repeating the same ignorant stereotypes. P.s. Can I just say that holier-than-thou self-righteous attitude is in itself a much worse sin than the short comings of those they are shouting at and condoning to hell. I feel sorry for the people who look to your for guidance, and who with your attitude you push away from the deen. Your contradictor approach not to mention your "I know better than you, you are wrong, I am better than you" while trying to maintain a discussion is just sill. Self righteous attitudes are repugnant to the spirit of Islam and it takes you away from Islam. P.s.s Khalaf it is clear that a munaafia will be going to hell if she dies in that state, so have you not condone many to hell. I don't like arguing about religion because I don't believe I'm in a position to do so, so I'm just gonna leave it there before I collect sins.

InaaLilaahi wa inaan ilayhi raajicuun. May allah have mercy on him, forgive him and give his family sabar. p.s. Our young boys in south London have recently been exposed to new levels of volience.

^^^Why would they, no one knows what he replies with

Khayr: Surrah Al-Mutaffifin states after making explicit the relation between morality and the doctrine of the Hereafter: That the deeds of the wicked are already being recorded in the black list of the culprits, and in the Hereafter they will meet with utter ruin.It goes on to say that: the best end of the virtuous has been described and it has been laid that their deeds are being recorded in the list of the exalted people, on which are appointed the angels nearest to Allah. ( I hope you are getting my point, we do not need to police people's actions, good or bad, everything is being recorded and each will meet with their action) I read in the tasfeer that although the verse “But they (disbelievers, sinners) had not been sent as watchers over them (the believers)” (Verse 33 in Surrah Al-Mutaffifin) specificly speaks in a context (the none believers V the belivers) it can include and be applied to Muslims who make It their business to pick on others sins, with no intention of helping them, as it happens in this forum frequently, to the extent that some are condoning people to the state of muuafiaq. Allah Aclam I could not agree more with Lily's comment regarding these kinda of programmes, it is aimed at the average Joe who thinks our full time job is to blow up people, getting beaten up by our husband, no english and strange culture. Hence if they are doen in the right way, I have no problems with them, and Like Ngonge said I'd rather have these kind, instead of Abu Hamas and undercover mosques which just reinforce these crazy ideas that we are all crazy violent muslims.

^^^Lol. Dabshid, that is not the issue, I was just pointing out how unfair it is to judge people simply because they don't cover, while assuming that someone one who covers is better than them, when they could be the devil in disguise. Only Allah knows what is in everyone’s heart and why they do certain things, we cannot judge them based on their outward appearance. Stating the Xaaq whether it affects you or not is part of being a Muslim.

What's the difference between a woman having her period and a terrorist? A: You can negotiate with a terrorist. What do they call a woman who works as hard as a man? Answer: "Lazy." Two women were riding their rickety old bikes down the back streets of Rome one late afternoon. As it turns dusk, the increasing darkness starts making one of the women a little nervous. She leans over to the other and says, "You know, I've never come this way before." The other says, "It's the cobblestones." "Cash, check or charge?" I asked, after bagging items the woman wished to purchase. As she fumbled for her wallet I noticed a TV remote in her purse. "So, do you always carry your TV remote?" I asked. "No," she replied, "but my husband refused to come shopping with me, so I figured this was the most legal evil thing I could do to him."

Just share your Tips. 1--Eat, drink and be moderate Almost all of us do it - once Iftar time hits, we just keep plowing food and drink into our mouths till it's hard to move afterwards. And those of us who do it know this is totally contrary to the spirit of Ramadan, through which we're supposed to learn self-control not self-indulgence. Let's try to stick to the Prophetic rule on eating: fill our stomachs with one-third food, one-third water and one-third breathing space, even in Ramadan. 2---Give a pound/dollar a day in charity...or five or ten The Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, was always generous but even more so in Ramadan. Let's open our hearts and dig a little deeper in our wallets this year. Even less than a pound/dollar a day adds up. Whatever you can give, it's the intention that counts. 3---Memorize 4 new paragharahs (help me out someone, the mini chapters (saafxad) can't remember what they are called right now) a day Memorizing the Quran often seems like a daunting task. But the key is doing it in small bites. Since there are four weeks in Ramadan, try to memorize one new Surah a week. Start off with a short, easy one. Once you've started, you'll build momentum and may even want to memorize a longer one the following week. 4---Go to Tarawih prayers, this also to the sisters, if you have someone to go with and it is safe, Post-Iftar, the first urge is to sleep after an exhausting day. But try your best to head out to the mosque for Tarawih prayers. Praying alone is wonderful, but doing it in congregation is fantastic. The community spirit is part of Ramadan's blessings. Don't miss it, try and not add to your sins by arguing, pushing or annoying people (this includes smells, cleaness) or talking about people). Don't rush out of the mosque with out praying Withir, and hearing the heart-rending Duas that follow it. 5---Stop swearing and/or backbiting you should not do it anyway, but try harder In Ramadan, when we want to build our spirituality, we've got to wage Jihad against our bad habits. 6---Call/email your relatives, visit the sick it is charity Strengthening ties with family members and keeping in touch with friends is part of our way of life and an act Allah is very pleased with. This Ramadan, call/email family and friends ask them how their ramadan is going, but don't waste all your time doing this. 7--Go on a technology diet Even if you work in the IT industry, you can do this. Avoid checking personal email and surfing the web during your fast. After Iftar, instead of plopping yourself in front of the screen, go to Tarawih. The same goes for the television. The point is to try to give our full attention to spiritual elevation this month. 8---Read 5 minutes of Quran a day...just five, not more, not less Even if you feel you've got absolutely no time, set a timer or the alarm on your cell phone and find a relatively quiet place. You can read the first page of the Quran you open or follow a sequence. Simply connect with God through His revelation in the month of the Quran. 9---Forgive everyone who has hurt you Still got a festering wound from the fight with your friend last year? Still upset about something your spouse said during a heated argument? Or are you still bitter about the way your parents sometimes treated you as a kid? Let go of the anger and pain this Ramadan and forgive those who have hurt you. Forgiving someone is not only good for the body, but it's also great for the soul. And in Ramadan, ten days of which are devoted to Allah's forgiveness, shouldn't we lesser beings forgive too? Allah will forgive those who forgive others. P.s. Add on your tips...

And Muslims will never accept you, they always have something to pick on! Different people, we also have Sunni, shia, sufi, salafi, Ahuulu sunnah, hanfee, Shafi, Do I need to keep going?. This attitude of blame everything on kufuar is boring and sill. Muslims are lost and divided with or without the influence of none Muslims. After all it is not the none Muslims who have divided you into so many sec's is it now? We are forever barking up the wrong tree and blaming all and everyone but our own failures. Waax kaasta kuf kuf, Munafiqa, etc :mad: At least watch the damn thing before judging these people :cool:

Ramadan Mubarak Ladies, May this month bring you both happiness, mercy and forgiveness inshallah. Most of all may all your good deeds be accepted. p.s. No hard feelings.....I guess now you have a reason to remember me every time you make Qaxwo with xawaash or was it shah toolow. or in Naomi case every time you see Islaan iskuu buuqda or your 78yr old neighbor in a fight. Lol Sincere apologies if you were offended. Cheers.

Khalaf go to hell (Inshallah not) but seriously what the hell is wrong with you?? People like you do my head in. I suppose just because she does not cover her head, she might as well drink, have sex, forget prayer and fast and everything else after all she is not covering herself :mad: Maybe she can start doing this all at once, and only then can she be classed as following Islam. I have seen enough "undercover hijabs" to know it means jackshid if the rest of your actions contradict it. I suppose you think one who covers but does not pray or fast and does whatever hell she likes is better, after all the little material shall save her. P.s. Deen is not what you think, or feel or like or dislike darling, nor can you dictate what parts people can adopt or leave. Everything is between individuals and their lord who will judge them and punish or reward them accordingly. P.s.s How can say someone who does not cover is a munafia and then say don’t take it personal, how personal can you get!! That is dangerous accusation.

^^Diabetes is along with hypertension, but Somalis are as bad on that level. Even without Pizza hut, Macdonalds, and fast food, Arabs have too many variety in food, and too sweet or salty