but they are also a lot more innocent in "sexuality" then kids here. You are kidding right?? Maybe you need to visit back home I stand by what I said, regardless of your pictures, It does not shock me or surprise me, but as I said consenting people, not FORCED. It does not mean it is tasteful or desirable thing to do, and it might even been statistically and socially abnormal.

Ghanima the only thing i happen to be over the moon about is my good memory. I remember things that are not worth remembering. I am certain that afuur in 1995 was 9:00 pm walashis. I have a feeling Ghanima trucks me down from post to post just to get one over me. G you are truly a winner of rare qualities. ARE you kidding me?? :rolleyes: sounds like my name has become very easy for all the people with issues on this forum. :cool: Now why on earth would I stalk you baal?? I stalk the likes of Kahina, Ngonge, Lily, North, Sharmarkee, Val, Ms DD, Jac, Zenobia and few others. Adi weel heergaas maad gaadin! As for 1995, Google is a witness :cool:

^^^I could not agree more. Maybe those families just need raise their kids, educate them and install a good upbringing in them, rather than trying to police them, and force them into temporary marriages. Children are not retards, they just need discipline and direction from an early age. Obviously we are managing in these societies, having been borough up here, so I don't see why they won't be able to manage...but then again if parents are thinking along these lines, I can see why there maybe some problems. Perhaps the actually problem is that people who lack sound judgement are having kids, maaxa their kids uu sheekayan, iska daal maah, like many somalis seem to think. If the issue is temporary marriages, then it is not allowed, simple as. IF the issue is early marriages, then that is something Islam advises. So pray tell what there to discuss ya De Nova?? other than maadax waarer. At-Tabaraanee the narration of Ayyoob on the authority of Sa’eed ibn Jubayr from Ibn Abbaas Azmaya, she already quote the authority and reported narration, whaT has it got to do with somali/ Arab men who want to keep women down? :confused:

Our language is just rude, sometimes! As for the lady, she should be happy she is being soo furay, some men like to hold women hostage long after the break down of a marriage.

^^^You can say that again, I thought maybe I was just old and grumpy or something. Loool @how shocking, I guess I've done that now and then and here and there…, Just not in certain issues.

^^If he studied Xalimo's for so long why is he 10times divorced and sooo off the mark. Here we go again about Xalimo's and farah's broke *** empty wallet, please :rolleyes: Issh :rolleyes: Every farah is screaming about money, his wallet, paying for his own wedding (I mean who did you think was gonna pay for it?) buying his own bed and things for his house, the mehr, the food money, you name it :rolleyes: Y'll need to be told what time it is, If you are broke, don't get married to a Xalimo or have a wedding, and if you have money spend it, you cannot take it to your grave! P.s. And for god sake stop moaning and complaining and grow up, who the hell wants to marry a moan old bag who is tight fisted? Lighten up. P.s.s. Not all Jamaicans are Rasta, nor are all Rasta’s Jamaicans :rolleyes: Hello skipper...

Looool, some people are so funny. loool

Says the guy who was complaining about his women of 7years P.s. Maybe you should stop hanging around with so much women sweety so you won't have to hear it, maax kuu aagdig from suuhoor to auufur?? :rolleyes: P.s.s. Fasting at 10yrs is normal, nothing to be over the moon about, and afuur was NOT at 9pm in 1995, that was 1991

Loool so a bunch of recovering nymphomaniac decided to stop sleeping around for a while. :rolleyes: lool @ some see celibacy as a revenge tactic, revenge for what exactly no one was forcing them to have sex in the first place. Serenity: Loool @but not fun. :rolleyes: Why is the rubbish being reported again... I guess it is a strange thing in a sex crazy world.

What a bloody Id*ot. :rolleyes:

Why are there so many threads on marriage! summer is over people. Age: when the person feels ready and wants to get married and they find someone who also feels ready and wants to marry them.

^^Must be German for rubbish

^^You have HUge Respect got Rudy?? based on what??

Zenobia you sad sad lady I cannot believe you are online already lool HAHa. Glade you made it back safely. I need to move to Germany.

^^^I second that Khaina. BOB 30 is not old for a women, what world do you live in. In fact why would any women marry before hitting 30?? she needs to live life first Loool @ De nova. I agree it is a good idea kids these days cannot possible have ANY self control. :rolleyes: Shia's are big on this idea and some Arabs as well, If it was legal it would have been an idea (not sure good or bad- depends on how you use it and abuse it really) It would certainly get around the whole mahram idea that holds us women hostage when we want to go travelling. I'm think convenience marriage are hmmm (convenient..can't think of a better word), but again it is not allowed.

You should finish with the Imam in order to get your full reward, however traditionally tarawiix prayer is not how we pray, what you should do is pray two rakkah, read some Quran, do duca, then two more etc. So if you go somewhere and they race thorough 20 rakkahs, you can pray 8 by taking breaks in the middle, do some duca and read yet still finish with the imam. Allah aCalum, but that is what my teacher told me.

For anyone who has an obsession or interest in this field, check this book out! Here is a review of it. The past few years have produced an enormous trove of literature about conflict and violence in the Middle East, no doubt because there appears to be so much of both. Academics, policymakers and media pundits remain fascinated by the "nature" of terrorism and the impending threat of a nuclear-armed Iran. The superheated rhetoric of leaders in Iran and Israel has only accelerated the possibility of confrontation between the two countries, while the cumulative effect of the media echo chamber has added to the clamor of war drums and saber-rattling inside the Washington Beltway. Out of this cacophony emerges a book with the clarity and insight that so often elude US policymakers. Trita Parsi's Treacherous Alliance: The Secret Dealings of Israel, Iran, and the United States is a deft account of the back-channel relationship linking the three countries from Israel's inception in 1948 through the present. In revealing interviews with 130 decision-makers in Iran, Israel and the US, Parsi, an analyst who also heads the National Iranian American Council, crafts an alternative view of a conflict that is often couched in ideological terms. In the opening chapter, Parsi shatters several myths about the Israel-Iran rivalry, or the "800-pound gorilla", as he refers to it several times throughout the text. For example, while President Mahmud Ahmadinejad publicly condemns Israel and questions the validity of the Holocaust, the Islamic Republic is actually home to the second-largest population of Jews in the Middle East (Israel is first). Few Iranian Jews take Ahmadinejad's rhetoric seriously, writes Parsi, "and they point to the fact that little has changed for Iranian Jews under him". In fact, Iran's sole Jewish representative in the Majlis (parliament), Maurice Mohtamed, spoke out against the president's comments, and during the height of the Islamic Revolution, ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued a fatwa protecting Jews as a religious minority contingent on their rejection of Zionism and the Israeli state, according to Parsi. In Israel, he complicates the notions of separate Israeli and Iranian identities through his exchanges with several Iranian Jews who left Iran not for ideological reasons as much as for economic ones. Interestingly, some of Israel's most prominent public officials are originally Persian, including scandal-tainted President Moshe Katzav and former Israel Defense Forces chief of staff Dan Halutz (born to Persian immigrants). But Parsi's book is remarkable for its detailed look at the international-relations dimension of the Israel-Iran relationship. There exists, beneath the vitriolic public exchanges, a history of intelligence cooperation, arms sales, and secret dialogue between the two countries. And the dialogue continued even after Iran turned from a monarchy into an Islamic theocracy. The "alliance of necessity" initially formed out of a mutual concern over the threat of neighboring countries - purely pragmatic and practical, the epitome of realpolitik. Israel viewed Iran as a possible peripheral ally, outside the orbit of its immediate threats (Gamal Abdel Nasser's Egypt, Syria, Jordan). Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the shah of Iran, envisaged his country as the dominant hegemon in the Middle East, and viewed neighboring Iraq as its most immediate threat. In Parsi's narrative the shah, who ultimately fled Iran during the Islamic Revolution and died in exile in 1980, exhibited all the signs of megalomania. He was a Middle Eastern dictator with a shopping list for US-made weapons and lucrative oil rents to pay for the merchandise. But he wasn't the smartest political tactician. The shah's appetite for status as the dominant power in the region led him to sign the Algiers Accord, an agreement between Iran and Iraq that would end hostilities and settle territorial disputes, notably the Shatt al-Arab waterway. At the time, Iraq was fighting a Kurdish rebellion launched by peshmerga guerrillas (who were supported by Iranian and Israeli intelligence agencies and financed by the US). In the long term, Parsi writes, the shah's shortsighted agreement led to the unraveling of a tacit alliance with Israel, with which it was conducting intelligence operations. Furthermore, the end of hostilities gave Iraq an opportunity to crush the Kurdish rebellion and rebuild its army. It would use it against Iran five years later. The Islamic Revolution took the US by surprise, but even the rigid ideological rhetoric of the mullahs could be manipulated if the political situation demanded. While the mullahs maintained a fierce public posture condemning Israel, they approached the country for weapons during the Iran-Iraq War. Parsi writes, "The more the Islamic Republic's foreign policy was presented as different from that of the shah, the more it resembled it at its core ... the ideology had shifted astonishingly. But the end goal remained remarkably similar." The end goal was to build a stronger relationship with the United States, and if that meant theocratic Iran would have to go through Israel, it would do so. But successive US administrations complicated the relationship further. US neo-conservatives, who got their country involved in the Iran-Contra scandal at the height of Iran's war against Iraq, opposed contact with Iran 15 years later in spite of Tehran's repeated overtures. "There is a great deal of confusion as to how America got mixed up in an Israeli-Iranian rivalry that is neither about ideology nor religion," Parsi writes. Currently, Iran is a country that finds itself increasingly isolated by the West, while the US and Israel now represent a complete alignment of views on terrorism and how to deal with it. Parsi's book also analyzes the extent to which the pro-Israel lobby influenced policy and views on Iran. In the early 1990s, after the defeat of Saddam Hussein's Iraqi Army in the Gulf War, Israeli politicians began describing Iran as the primary threat. "The pro-Israeli community turned strongly against Iran, influencing US policy on Iran in an almost emotional way," said former US national security adviser Brent Scowcroft. As a result, Iran, Parsi argues convincingly, created a different equation, one in which Israeli actions against Palestinian "rejectionist groups" Hamas and Islamic Jihad, as well as Lebanon's Hezbollah, would be met with retaliatory terrorist attacks against Jews and Israelis abroad. But even Iran's links to groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah could be negotiated, as evidenced by the 2003 overture by the Iranian regime, and approved by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, to stop funding them in return for certain safety guarantees and a wider political opening with the United States. Then-US congressman Bob Ney delivered the message to the White House, but Iran never received a reply. Treacherous Alliance is a timely and important read for anybody who wants push back the essentialist arguments that suggest an impending clash of ideologies. In Parsi's estimation, as long as the US ignores the "800-pound gorilla" in the room, it will not be able to resolve any of its problems in the region. Treacherous Alliance: The Secret Dealings of Israel, Iran, and the United States by Trita Parsi. Yale University Press

Aallah dadkuu naacnac baadaan :rolleyes:

^^^^Loool^^ That was hilarious Ngonge! loool hehe, will comment on the topic when I have time inshallah

Loool. they might as well stay together, I'm sure there is something still there maybe they can try cyber marriage, and see if it is any better than real marriage. The world is going crazy! lool

Ms DD, as of today I too will not be working. I'm going back to the good old days of being a student! HERE I COME!. good luck with whatever you do sis. Salam

^^^I'm sorry honey, I'm depressing myself with reading all these, but I guess I cannot always hide out from the reality of this world. I am more aware of people misfortunes than ever today. It is truly sad for them to live so close and ...

Hundreds of Palestinians thronged two major West Bank checkpoints, trying to reach the Al Aksa mosque in Jerusalem on the first Friday of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, despite Israeli restrictions. IDF troops turned back many of the West Bank faithful. Only men above the age of 45 and women above the age of 35, who had also obtained special permits, were allowed to enter the mosque, the third holiest shrine of Islam, said police spokesman Shmuel Ben-Ruby. Later Friday, several tens of thousands of Palestinians, many of them Jerusalem residents not affected by the restrictions, participated in the Al Aksa service, and the crowd dispersed peacefully. Hundreds of Israeli police were deployed in streets and alleys in and around Jerusalem`s walled Old City where the Al Aksa Mosque compound is located. Troops also took up positions at two major West Bank checkpoints, one to the south of Jerusalem and one to the north. The checkpoints are built into Israel`s West Bank separation barrier, which rings most of Jerusalem to control Palestinian movement into Israel. At the southern checkpoint, near the biblical town of Bethlehem, hundreds of Palestinians, many of them elderly, pushed up against police lines set up near the separation barrier, in this area a towering wall. At one point, the crowd pushed through the police line. One woman crawled on her hands and knees, another fell to the ground as people behind her surged forward. IDF troops shouted at people to get back. At the northern Kalandiya crossing, near the city of Ramallah, hundreds of people waited to pass. Hamdi Abu Fadi, 44, was turned back because he didn`t meet the age requirement. Abu Fadi said he`d try to sneak into Jerusalem in another area, in hopes of reaching Al Aksa. Prayers performed at the shrine are considered more powerful than worship in another mosque. Palestinians have long complained that Israel is violating their right to freedom of worship by restricting access to a major shrine. `It`s a crime against us all year long, whether during Ramadan or any other month,` said Abu Fadi. Israel says it imposes the restrictions to prevent possible attacks by terrorists. Ramadan is a time of heightened religious fervor which security officials fear could increase the motivation for carrying out attacks. source

How did my tips for ramadan turn to a discussion about nothing else BUT food! why do we exist?

^^ LayzieGirl... you are kidding right?? okay maybe not.. I'm going to ignore the rest of your message as it was just silly, but I have to point this out because it made me laugh! Neph, folks like ghanima can't handle a battle of one, much less two. you thought this was a battle?? :confused: aww you poor thing! you must live in a nice area. Ramadan Mubarak :cool: