What would be the point of repairing things if three hours later they are going to bomb the hell out of it again. Humanitarian aid is so depressing, sometimes I wonder if it is even worth it.

^^The credit crunch happened dee, the pound hit the floor and dahaab went sky high I don't mind Ngonge's Nacnac you know, I know he's got a good heart, pluz CL told me, she saw him hiding under the table and calling Palestine (Istaghfurallah, a lie Me tell )

^^^LOOOOL. How is it going?? so when is the next feast *Burp*.

Ngonge, I'm sure even Rudy can manage the Islamic greeting and "allah Macakuum" and yes I believe peeople in SOL are international, now stop wasting my time with your negativity.

^^For me yes, not for others, Who don't know anyone and call random.

^^^It is has become symbolic for protest and for showing disgust, disrespect and all the other notions associated with it, I think it was mainly the Arabs and Somalis.

Please "ME" Don't follow me around hijacking threads about Palestine and turning them into debates about Somalia and the Somali problem. I do often post about Somalia and the struggles that people are going through back home, however in the light of current events I have shifted my priorities. IF Somalia is still your number one priority, then by all means open up separate threads and people will happily comment. However it is quite childish and unfair to peep up every time with "What about Somalia" in a thread about Palestine. There is no competition in suffering and there is no comparison on the level of atrocities, the extent, the concentration of violence and the scale of violence or even the cause. Adam, like somalis Palestine has its worse enemies within, people who have sold their soul and their grandmothers to the Isrealis for few dollars. But I like your take on things.

My advise is that you only call IF you 1) You speak Arabic and 2) Or you know the person on the otherside or you have something solid to say. I know many Palestines online, who I've never met, but who like you, nuune, Adam and/ or other SOLers I know from Pro Palestine groups or facebook. I would only call them. My Arabic is not good enough to call a stranger and say why I'm calling without crying and depressing them fruther.

^^^Took spare shoes dee, you don't throw the ones you are wearing, I think everyone had a bag of old shoes with them.

Demonstrators demanding an end to Israeli airstrikes on Gaza hurled their shoes at the gates of Downing Street yesterday during a wave of global protests. Riot police were also pelted with missiles and fireworks as about 5,000 pro-Palestinians descended on the Israeli Embassy in London in the evening. Earlier in the day, around 12,000 people marched through the centre of the capital, including singer Annie Lennox, human rights campaigner Bianca Jagger and former mayor Ken Livingstone. The London Demos At the embassy: Elsewhere in Britain, 2,000 demonstrators took to the streets in Manchester and 500 braved the cold in Edinburgh. Paris held the world’s biggest protest, with 25,000 people showing up to condemn the Israeli offensive, which has killed at least 436 Palestinians since December 27th. Source Holland: Italy: Germany:

Muslims are doomed today bcz each one of us is waiting for the smart leader to lead us. No one will take the initiative to do something. When it comes to Jihaad, we say, where are the Jihaadist?? When it comes to charity,, where are the wealthy ppl? When it comes to Knowlege, where are the educated ppl? When it comes to corruption? Where are the saints to fix it?. We always throw the responsibility on someone. No one stand up and volunteer and do something. Now, there is the truth.

I hope, it picks up through out the day, I hope those hypocritical western democracy powers start to show with even weak gestures such as these. Nuune Turkey was threatening to take military action last night. Can't find anything on their ambassador though. What happened to Sweden, the beacon of democracy and fairness :rolleyes:

ALLAH AKBAR for small actions. @Me Inshallah.

Haarun the numbers are on the first post/ thread I posted 0097082 and i added 3 random numbers at the end.. [cheap dialing lol-09112190190 then type the number above]

By FABIOLA SANCHEZ, Associated Press Writer – Tue Jan 6, 7:46 pm ET CARACAS, Venezuela – Venezuela ordered expelled from the country on Tuesday in protest over the Israeli military offensive in the Gaza Strip. The decision by President Hugo Chavez to kick out the diplomat appeared to be the strongest reaction yet to the Gaza offensive by any country with ties to Israel. The Venezuelan Foreign Ministry announced the move in a statement, saying it "has decided to expel the Israeli ambassador and part of the Israeli Embassy's personnel." The Israeli offensive in Gaza has killed nearly 600 Palestinians in ground and air strikes. Israel launched the attacks Dec. 27 to stop Palestinian militants from firing rockets into southern Israel. "How far will this barbarism go?" Chavez asked on state television before the ambassador's expulsion was announced. "The president of Israel should be taken before an international court together with the president of the United States, if the world had any conscience." Venezuela's Foreign Ministry said its U.N. mission is joining with other countries in demanding the Security Council "apply urgent and necessary measures to stop this invasion." Israeli diplomats could not immediately be reached for comment. The embassy in Caracas was closed, and it was unclear how the Israeli government would respond. Jewish community leader Abraham Levy, president of the Venezuelan Confederation of Israelite Associations, called the government's decision "taking the side of a terrorist group" by backing Gaza's Hamas leaders while ignoring Israel's perspective. "I deeply lament that decision made by the government, which cuts off an enormous and long tradition of friendship between the people of Israel and the people of Venezuela," Levy told The Associated Press. He said the decision leaves Venezuela's Jewish community — which numbers nearly 15,000 — "not only worried but also deeply battered" because it "attempts to demonize the state of Israel." While many countries have protested Israel's offensive, none besides Venezuela so far have expelled the ambassador. Mauritania, which established relations with Israel in 1999, called home its ambassador from the Jewish state on Monday. Jordan and Egypt, the other two Arab nations with relations with Israel, summoned their Israeli ambassadors to protest the Gaza attacks, but they have resisted popular calls to expel them. Chavez has long been critical of the Israeli government's policies in the Middle East and has supported the Palestinians' stance in the conflict. During Israel's 2006 conflict in Lebanon, Chavez withdrew his top envoy from Israel, calling the bombings there "a new Holocaust." Relations have remained at a scaled-back level since. Chavez's condemnations of Israel's offensive in Gaza have grown gradually more severe in recent days. On Monday he called the Jewish state a "genocidal government," and on Tuesday urged Jews in Venezuela to take a stand against the Israeli government. In spite of harsh criticisms of Israel, Chavez's government has insisted it is friendly toward Jewish people. Chavez met with Jewish leaders in August, pledging to work against anti-Semitism despite strong differences on Mideast politics. Top Venezuelan officials explained Tuesday's decision speaking to cheering supporters at a Caracas mosque. Some in the crowd chanted "Gaza, hold on. The people are rising up!" Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro said Venezuela declared the Israeli ambassador "persona non grata" and decided to "reduce to a minimum the representation of this embassy in Venezuela." Justice Minister Tarek El Aissami, who is of Arab descent, said "our revolution is also a revolution for a free Palestine!" Chavez accuses Israel of acting on behalf of the United States in the Mideast, and he has forged close ties with Israel's top enemies — Iran and Syria. Chavez also has used the tool of expelling an ambassador before. Last September, he kicked out U.S. envoy Patrick Duddy saying it was in solidarity with Bolivia, which also booted its U.S. ambassador, accusing him of aiding violent protests. Demonstrations against the offensive have been held in various Latin American countries in recent days. In Argentina, which has the third-largest Jewish population outside Israel, hundreds of people marched to the Israeli Embassy to call for an end to the offensive. Brazil's government, like Venezuela, has said it is sending food and medical aid to the Gaza Strip. And in Bolivia, about a hundred Palestinians and Arabs marched to protest the violence. The largest Palestine population outside of the Arab world is in Chile, lets see if they can get that ambassador kicked off too.

Originally posted by Johnny B: Duke's overall message: Mogadishu = clan courts. Hargeisa = SNM gang Bosasso = Somalia Simple yet (if repeated enough ) deadly . LOL

Khayr, most people think that reading the Quran is and must always be a good thing. However in this case, you would be better off just reading the Quran as worship, you cannot read Quran and think it will give them blessings etc. The list of people who you can read Quran for are very small and basically including; your parents who paid and taught you to learn, your Quran teacher or someone who specifically helped you complete or learn the Quran. Every time you read a xarf they taught you, even if they are dead, they would be rewarded for it. I would advise that you use the time to make extended dua for them, maybe at the end of your withr prayer or even if you can get up for qiyamul layal. Innovation in the deen will not help them, in fact some will even argue that this humiliation in Muslim lands is because of innovation and going away from Allah's deen. Allah knows best.

I don't think they will worry or discuss something as simple as as a strangers phone call with all that is going on, let alone stress about. Re; donations, clothes and money, its all good, aand Yes there are charities that are willing to help. However, most of them are being banned. Or they ‘offer food and healthcare’ to the Palestinians, which they won’t receive because Israelis are stopping the aid from getting to them in the first place! Welcome to the merry go around. Islamic R is your best bet.

^^More practical yes, but it will take 30-50 years to make a difference, I fear there would be no one left by then. Not all of us have time on our side Ngonge. I don't make fun of any effort Ngonge, it might work, it might help some people. So let it be, pick one of the many ways, pick one that suits your cynical self, just pick something. P.s. Your people have this great idea of also completing the Quran for Gaza, I was e-mailed and txt to take part in everyone reading Quran for Gaza. I did'nt bother telling them that it does not work like that, I just said I'd pass this one

^^^MPAC thinks this is useless, so is make dua according to them, as is demostrating You should know by now, their motto is Political activism. No this campaign was put together by some of your people, bunch of arab speakers,

Then it would be a good change for them to hear a friendly voice rather than IDF telling them I am going to blow you up. In any case, this is a campaign that is going on and has been going on since the bombing started, join or don't, agree or don't. ITs no use shouting at me, I'd only call the ones I know. P.s. Don't say I feel your pain, because you don't :mad:

Marx there are various clips floating about the internet of me, I did four documentaries, as well as various media request. As you now know who I am, I am sure you will come across them now and again. Personally I have full recordings in my house, so no I don't want to see what clip you found. Can you stop hijacking this thread please. P.s. I don't expect you share my private identity with other people by posting things I do under my own identity. Ibtisam has nothing to do with my work.

CL as said, if you don't want to do, don't. :rolleyes: MARx i often call Burco, what is your point?

LOOOL @ 7years ahead, why seven, waar say light years ahead Seven is a random number.

One of the latest campaigns that is going on is call someone in Gaza. There is a network black out in GAZA with the local TV stations taken over and just showing threatening messages. The phones are still working, call them, offer them your condolences, express your distress and sympathy. When something bad happens to your Muslim brother least you can do is call them and make dua for them. 0097082 and i added 3 random numbers at the end.. [cheap dialing lol-09112190190 then type the number above] An 40-50 yr old lady picked up..such a dead depressed voice..she could hardly speak..she said she could hear the planes over her as i spoke..and sounded like she had no hope in us..they have no electricity[even though the phone worked, so i assume no TV] so they cannot see our support..i swore to her that we are doing everything in our hand..she said theres one thing i ask u..its to pray for us. One thing that really hit hard was her strength when she said "ni7na mish khayfeen..ni7na samdeen" basicly "we arent afraid..we are standing strong". Please do the same..u might put a slight bit of happiness or hope in their heart..this lady sounded like she was waiting for death..she could hear death flying above her as i spoke..thats the thing they are all waiting for death..God help them :'( Take Care, and circulate so we can keep calling and support them. Please, for those of you cynical people, ignore the campaigns, no has the energy to argue with you or convince you, if you don't want to do it, don't. :cool: P.s. There is a facebook group where you can read the responses other people got, those of you on list can already see it. otherwise search it; "call someone in Gaza"