^^^Yes (I cannot believe I'm going down this road Okay KK, if someone kills 1000people in two days, is he the same as the one who kill 100individuals over a number of years. Yes they are both murders, yes they are both criminals, but are they on a different scale. It is like comparing the man who steals a biscuit with a bank robber. If you was passing a sentences on either case, you would have to take into account the scale and size. Yes the families who lost those 100people want justice, of course, no doubt, but their shouts will surely be drown out by the families of the 1000 dead.

^^^No it is based on the scale and numbers, rather than the importance of lives taken. Morgan was an open massacre on a wide indiscriminate scale. Surely you can understand the difference.

Nuune unless you are going on your honey moon, don't go to Zanzibar

I'm trying to book one now @nuune

I can't read all this madness, HAs John Drysdale become a Muslim??? Mashallah, Allahu Akbar, the guy has lived with Somalis for over 40years, even married one at some point if I remember correctly. I love his books, helped me extensively. He is such loveable old man, I am happy to hear so.

Hi Lily, Remember my favorite restaurant with the chocolate drinks. Three of the waiters got attacked in the restaurant by some youth and one of them died in hospital due to the injuries. I saw it on the London Paper. Since then I keep wondering which one it is because I know most of them by face. JB What kind of name is Shunuf??

^^^ It would be pointless, and would start a little war between his clan who of course have to protect their hero and whoever is attempting to capture him. I don't think anymore lives should be wasted for that warlord or any warlords sake. What is the use of more bloodshed to kill one old man, death will come to him like everyone else, you can bet your bottom dollar on that.

I wish people would stop asking me about Obama. While getting dinner at a Caribbean Restaurant last night, the damn waiter stayed in the back to hear him talk, we waited 20mins for the menu, 30mins for her to come back and take the order and 30mins for the food to arrive and just as long to get the bill, afterwards someone just got up when up to the till, I want to pay right now style I saw the metro today, hahah @Bush's letter to Barry :eek: It think they are building him up so much, so regardless of what he does (if anything) he will fall short (that’s if some redneck does not kill him) They cannot have him leaving a bigger legacy then all the whites. The guy cannot do magic, his hands are tied by so many constrains and everyone is going on like he is going to work some miracles. I feel sorry for him, no pressure indeed.

Rudy best hope they aint like the three mentioned...

I'm sending Bush some messages, please leave the message you would like to send. P.s. I'm not too excited about Obama either.

Originally posted by Qalbi-Adeyg: Ibtisam Here's you making excuses for the SNM crime gang: Originally posted by *Ibtisam*: [qb] They were political refugees in exile, who left the country to escape with their life’s and then went back to safe their families. What has this got to do with the previous lies you was peddling??? But at the same time, it is wrong and a completely lie to try and say SNM run around massacring people for no reason. :confused: Are you kidding me?? This is your evidence, what has this got to do with Awadl? It is about the formation of SNM, a response to someone who said how can they be anything when they were formed OUTSIDE of Somalia. Get it?? It is a reference to their FORMATION, reread my full post in its context. Here you are calling the masscre of awdalites just 'insignificant/small part'. Originally posted by *Ibtisam*: [qb] ^^^SNM was not formed for Awdal nor was Awdal their target or purpose, that is how I know. What happened in Awdal by no means represents or signifies SNM history- it is a small part of it, important enough for people in Somaliland that it was addressed as early as in 1993. You said SNM were formed for Awadl, I said they were not, and Awdal forms a small part of their history which was important to people in SL as early as 93. How does that translate to support for what they did or insignificant as you call it? I really thought you would come with more than this, kindly post my full post in its context, and dig around for something more concrete to stand on.

See you back track and then you come back again, so now we are back to square one. Acuudbillah. here you are trying to make excuses and making the SNM seem like heroes. The same SNM who were responsible for massacring your fellow somali's, now does that not seem like hypocrisy to you? My question to you for the last two pages is WHERE have I supported or treated SNM like heroes for what they did in Awdal. I just told you I don't know the details, but from what I've heard I condemn it. Do you have selective reading or does everything go over your head. Aniga aya waalan arguing with some named Qalbi Adeyg. Accudubililah. I'm not going in circles with you, either bring the quote or case close. You don't have a point, if you want to discredit me, pick on some other aspect, but this one won’t run, and it does not matter if you bring paper boy and fellow cheerleaders to come out and condemn me or agree with you.

I have too much hope , how is it going dear?

^^^LOOL, sorry qiiq baa iga baaxayeh from the other thread old man. It was not firm enough for me, I mean I'm girl and you are more harsh with me than him, whats that about.

Oh so now it is your perceptions which you presented as facts one page ago. And suddenly it is not hypocrisy, it just smells of hypocrisy. :cool: I don't mind you saying, "Ibtisam, I think you are this and that and the other, I perceive you as that yad yad ya" But what I do mind is, you trying to put words in my mouth and make things up. Been haa iga sheekin please, I'm sure you could find a stick to beat me with, without making things up or extending my arguments on my behalf. I’m bias? not in awdals case, because I already said I don’t know much in that regards, I was not even aware of it until few years ago, I’ve just started doing some reading on it, so in few weeks I’ll be more informed. But even without knowing the details, never will I make excuses for murders of innocent people, regardless of what banner they fly, I find it more offensive than any names you’ve called me. P.s. Russel Peters is one funny man, sadly I missed his show in London.

^^I was thinking of Russel Peters One thing at a time Kiddo, reer Puntiland is done and dusted, I said all I wanted and could on that. I asked you to back this up Were you not the one making excuses for SNM massacre of awdalites? Then we can move on to your other "points"

^^^ well not every, but a few of them. I've cut down recently too. P.s. Have you changed? I got drawn into most of them during my last year at college, since then I've been trying to get out, but can't find the door to lock em all out.

Marx, what about all the time and energy I put into promoting and helping Somalis?? :confused: I already said one does not take away from the other. NGonge, yeah the planes have stopped, the crisis remains. I saw that damn dictatorial government, I am a member of the Muslim Sir Lankan association, they were marching with Gazans even with their own problems, bless them.

Ngonge; Waar correct your brother when is wrong, don't push him off a cliff! Tell him to pick his battles well. AfricaOwn, Seriously people in the SL know their interest in the long run and I said many times, they would sit out Riyaal's term, not because he is innocent nice man, but because they value peace and prosperity beyond and above one man. They do not think it is worth destabilizing their life’s, i.e. the costs are too high. But that does not mean the average Northerner is blind or does not know Riyaals history, they do but they turn a blind eye because they feel it serves their interest to ride this one out. Say that and I am cool, but trying to defend Riyaal and in the process discredit someone has made valuable contributions in highlighting the plight of Somali people, particularly Northerners is just beyond wrong. I get it, between this issue and Awadal it might seem like a tight ship, but you guys have to know and trust that your people know ultimately what is best for them. Duke and his cantarbaqash is irrelevant, you give him and co far too much credit.

I think I can do a better list of what men want. Your first is far too long and degrading to any normal sister waax isku faalesa. I think what you meant brother is what kind of women YOU want.

^^^What happened haji Khayr? Speak your mind Tuuj: Depends, I support them on something’s, other things I don't support them. Much like Hamas they are a reaction group produced as the result of a situation, they are not an alternative nor are they uniformed in any way. Most importantly they are not of religious authority but rather a resistant group.

^^^Marx when did you label me as self-hate??? :confused:

^^She wrote it in 1990, There was not such thing as SL state then. What makes half of her report acceptable and the other part a damn made up lie. Would you come off it. This is silly.

:eek: @ JB LOOL Accudubililah

Qalibi Adgey I'm waiting for your evidence or for you to peddle backwards. You did not think I forgot did you? Be a man for once and do the right thing