^^^Can you tell me please. It means dust to Northerns. What did you four understand??

Flirting with Free Speech or Abusing it? The far-right Dutch Islamophobe, Geert Wilders, was today prevented from entering the UK. Wilders is part of a much wider group of Islamophobes on the Continent who whilst hiding behind the pretence of 'the right to exercise free speech' are calculatedly using that privilege to inflame and incite racial and religious hatred . He is currently being investigated by the Dutch courts for using hate-speak. Wilders, a Dutch parliamentarian, is widely known for his campaign to have the Koran banned in Holland. He has also produced a video, Fitna, which seeks to link Islam with terrorism. Wilders has been accused of flirting with free speech. Those who have made an investigation of the Islamophobes might disagree: the word 'flirtation' is a far too gentle description of the abuse which dangerous people like Wilders indulge in. http://tinyurl.com/awmcog North he was invited by a far right MEP Ngonge: According to a Guardian poll, it would appear that 83% disagree with the Government's decision to disallow Geert Wilder's entry into the UK. Having written letters of complaint to Jacqui Smith and David Miliband I wonder whether I shouldn't add a postscript congratulating them on bringing the film 'Fitna' to the attention of more people than it otherwise would.

On top of the dreadful casualties from Israel's 22-day war in Gaza, we should add a further serious injury. It is longer-lasting and threatens the lives and wellbeing of very many people in the future. In the Israel/Palestine conflict, we are seeing a terrible undermining of international law and the principle that armies should adhere to minimum standards of humane behaviour, even during the heat of battle. If they fall below this minimum, they should, according to the laws of war, be held responsible for their war crimes – first, by their own superiors or courts, but, if necessary, by other nations or international courts. This principle – of accountability, even in war – is now in a critical condition as the standards are being ignored by Gaza's warring parties. Then, it's being assailed afresh by pugnacious and irresponsible remarks from leaders in the region. Both sides endangered civilian lives during the conflict, but obviously the behaviour of Israel was massively more destructive. There were reports from Amnesty International of Israeli Defence Forces units commandeering Palestinian homes, forcing families to remain in a ground-floor room while then using the property as a military operations point. In other words, Palestinian families were used as human shields or, at the very least, were exposed to quite unacceptable risk. Hamas is also accused of using local civilians as human shields, but since this excuse was used for every Israeli attack on civilian targets, we must await objective reports on whether this allegation is true. Even more shockingly, evidence has been growing of the IDF's use of white phosphorous shells in residential areas – a clear war crime in exposing civilians to horrendous deep-burn injuries that have shocked and bewildered burns unit doctors in Gaza's overrun hospital wards. Moreover, as the new BBC Panorama programme on Gaza asks, was the colossal destruction of roads, houses, factories, farms and ordinary civilian infrastructure right across the Gaza Strip (creating what an Amnesty researcher called "total devastation") an act of "wanton destruction" and therefore itself a war crime. It is true that virtually every conflict has involved atrocious deeds and virtually every armed force, however professional, has lapsed into barbarity. Senior military figures and their apologists will regularly seek to excuse these actions as occurring in the "heat of the moment" or because of the "tremendous pressure of conflict", but it is notable in the House of Commons that it was MPs with a military background who were most shocked by the use of white phosphorus. It's depressing but predictable that, as things stand, with little word from the UN security council, no one looks likely to be held responsible for the wiping out of hundreds of civilian lives in the three-week Gaza war. This abrogation of responsibility doesn't just let down civilians in Israel and Palestine; it lets down people all over the world. And it is not just the Bush administration that won't apply the Geneva convention in the occupied Palestinian territories. The UK and the EU are equally collusive in Israel's grave breaches of international law and, as human rights lawyer Phil Shiner has pointed out, have taken no action to uphold the opinion of the International Court of Justice that held the route of the wall and the settlements a complete breach of the Geneva convention. The convention requires all high contracting parties (those who have signed and ratified it) to take action to enforce it. The UK and the EU have taken no such action and, instead, plan to upgrade the EU relationship with Israel, which already extends privileged trade access in a treaty containing conditionalities on human rights which are not invoked. By failing to uphold these standards in the occupied territories, our governments are undermining the whole structure of international law. Adding further insult to international law in the aftermath of Israel's massive military campaign is the strident post-conflict tone. Prime minister Ehud Olmert has recently threatened a "disproportionate" response to continuing Palestinian rocket attacks – precisely what international humanitarian law forbids and what Israel already stands accused of having engaged in. The international criminal court's prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo recently confirmed that he is assessing whether the court has jurisdiction over war crimes committed in Gaza. But, in fact, the right way forward is for the security council to fulfil the role envisaged for it when the international criminal court was set up. It was anticipated that some international crimes would not be dealt with when the suspects were from states not party to the Rome Statute. Instead of establishing ad hoc tribunals, as in Rwanda and former Yugoslavia, it was provided that the security council should have power to refer cases to the ICC. This was done in the case of Darfur and surely should be done in the case of Gaza. Last November, I saw for myself the damage wrought by Israel's 19-month blockade of Gaza, and with this battered territory now a scene of almost biblical destruction, of course I understand that humanitarian aid and reconstruction are a priority. However, the UN security council shouldn't turn a blind eye to wanton destruction and war crimes either. ICC cases against Israel and Hamas will prove explosive, but it's my firm belief that it will also set down a marker for future conflict in the Middle East, as well as more widely in the world – from Sri Lanka to Burma to Zimbabwe. Guardian CiF

^^What did you understand it as, maybe that is why KK is qax qax.

KKLOL @ I don't want inaa neef neefsado... okay then, shaqal gaab aan isku oganah. Nuune iyo North Cheers Geel Jire: I confuse Dh, D iyo T, they sound the same to me. Ngonge I am, [in English] so I'm not surprised really. Blessed Lool @ Ayaayo! HAHA lol. I was planning to go and see her, I tried dragging sheh with me, but iyaad baa dakodako. Cara LOOL You are just nuts! LOL @ "North inaan liqaan ku sigtaa" LOOL Did you have an image?? How horrific! LOL

"he is just not that into you" Hmmm it is not my kind of film, but I know sooner or later it will catch up with me and I'll be dragged to see it. I've already cancelled on one person. I hope it is at least funny. Do review it when you see it please. I Googled what you meant by dominatrix, I thought maybe it was something different in the US, but no, you are telling me I would be good at bondage, discipline iyo submission. LOL I don't like to control others, I just like to control angia. I would find it revolting, just had image of human acting like a dog being pulled on with a collar. I'll probably kill them for degrading their human self! Channel your strength you say, hmmm. It is possible to channel your strength into an emotion, I don't recognise arousal as emotion, more like a passing momentary reaction nooh?? LOOL SS trying to corrupt me, don't worry I am emotional iyo physically frigid. So can you give me examples of the many forms and ways, then I will know what to look out for.

^^^LOOOL, you are welcome, delete her number. I mean the cheek of it, making you sit out in the cold Haneefa, because I feel sorry for some brothers, I always tell them, "hey, my friend, she is keeping you in the waiting room, jump out of the window" Xaraam Caleiki, I don't keep any, no one should worry about someone passing them by while they were busy or not looking, after all wiix lagu qoorey kuu daaf mayan. Why should Allah bless you or your marriage if you started off in the wrong foot with dishonesty, lies, sin iyo multiple considerations. Even if the kuun theory was acceptable to our morals, it is against Islam and would still be a sin. But I noticed a worrying trend with so called western brothers, when they are told “I am busy” or “I’m already consider someone else”, they have the audacity to respond “but waa caadii you are not married to him yet” even if you say “I am married”, they will say “don’t worry we’ll get you your papers” :eek: Are these guys for real :eek: Muujiiso. I worry for these new kids you know. @ Chocolate Sis that is beyond evil, if I was you when uu sheegi laah the poor sucker she is going to marry. But any what goes around comes around. I really think that is why Allah punishes them with all sorts of tests; cheating husbands, 2nd wife, bad father, separation, violence iyo so many other problems [don't get me wrong, some people are tested with that anyway]. But in many cases it is because the core foundation is so corrupt, had they put their trust in Allah SWT and asked him for guidance, instead of playing superwomen and trying to survey 50guys to pick from- in the process cheating, lying and sneaking around, she would've avoided half the problems. It does not matter how hard you search, how deep you dig and how far you go, you will never know or be able to pick the best. So maaxaad iisu waarerin ask Allah and be content with the responses, what you think is best for you is not always so. Jumca Mubarak

^^^Looks like you are bored and as usual barking up the wrong tree. If you want entertainment, go and watch a comedy yaaro. Cantarbaqash.com. :cool:

LOOL @ this topic going in all sorts of directions. C&H, I will give you an example where it is okay for you to be with more than one. ***hmmm thinking hard over here*** Okay on Monday you met a nice guy, but for all you know he could be evil, on Tuesday you run into a guy you met at an event a while back and you give them your number, and then on Wednesday your friend introduces you to someone and you all arrange to go out the week after, on Thursday on your way to work, the guy on the floor above yours asks you to lunch and on Friday evening you already had plans to go out with your old school friend who has moved back into the area and he is now a hunk. On Sat you go to your cousins house and her edo was there with her son and they abandon you two together, before you know it you've been left in a room with him to apparently have a private conversation. NOW is that scandalous?? None of these are dates, so I don’t think they are providing you was already single, but once she meets all these guys then she must pick one and keep the rest in the freezer. P.s. Many guys are kept on freeze mode, they just don’t know, waa back up, sitting in a virtual waiting room for months without even knowing

Blessed: Lol thanks, btw how is hooyo?? is she feeling better?? Xamax Gale: What if I do Serenity: Nicely avoided KK: LOL okay, but then you guys will not be able to breath if I use no shaqal dhers << see it looks wrong Nuune: I told you I was an experiment for a new language. My aim now that I’ve passed the curyaan Ngonge is inaan North siiga ku liqo

^^Why :confused: I'm glade they are related now, maybe they won't fight so much. I'm annoyed by small minded farah's on this section who somehow concluded that femininity is something laa isku caayo.

Cynical lady, lol you give such bad review then tell us to go and see it!! SS, haye, baal ii sheek how do I make this power tool work. I lack normal iyo abnormal imagination, I'm far too logical and I have control issues, so I can't let go

^^^It might well be Juxa, I'm having hard time remembering the wording iyo details. Sorry, I should've written them when I was a little younger, just clenching on straws haada. Serenity, I will inshallah look into few weekends at SOAS, you might want to come with me, you can improve on your speaking iyo reading. Then you won't get tired reading it

^^^No, I did not get that far, I got bored somewhere beween naag baad tahey iyo shankaroon, who is she married to iyo yaa daaley. :rolleyes: These days all the threads are blending in together, the same comments across threads.

^^My brothers are still children, we'll see what they become, I said "reer SOL", last time I checked my family was not part of reer SOL.

Reer SOL boys waax ii isku cayan :rolleyes: So pointless somali men.

Cynical lady, the guy is not interested in anything other than a new "Quran" which is not evil. What kind of dialog could possible take place. Here he is on hardtalk BBC in August 2008. Scroll down to listen. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7842344.st m

Islam film Dutch MP to be charged A Dutch court has ordered prosecutors to put a right-wing politician on trial for making anti-Islamic statements. Freedom Party leader Geert Wilders made a controversial film last year equating Islam with violence and has likened the Koran to Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf. "In a democratic system, hate speech is considered so serious that it is in the general interest to... draw a clear line," the court in Amsterdam said. Mr Wilders said the judgement was an "attack on the freedom of expression". "Participation in the public debate has become a dangerous activity. If you give your opinion, you risk being prosecuted," he said. Not only he, but all Dutch citizens opposed to the "Islamisation" of their country would be on trial, Mr Wilders warned. "Who will stand up for our culture if I am silenced?" he added. 'Incitement' The three judges said that they had weighed Mr Wilders's "one-sided generalisations" against his right to free speech, and ruled that he had gone beyond the normal leeway granted to politicians. The Amsterdam appeals court has ordered the prosecution of member of parliament Geert Wilders for inciting hatred and discrimination, based on comments by him in various media on Muslims and their beliefs," the court said in a statement. "The court also considers appropriate criminal prosecution for insulting Muslim worshippers because of comparisons between Islam and Nazism made by Wilders," it added. The court's ruling reverses a decision last year by the public prosecutor's office, which said Mr Wilders's comments had been made outside parliament as a contribution to the debate on Islam in Dutch society and that no criminal offence had been committed. Prosecutors said on Wednesday that they could not appeal against the judgement and would open an investigation immediately. Gerard Spong, a prominent lawyer who pushed for Mr Wilders's prosecution, welcomed the court's decision. "This is a happy day for all followers of Islam who do not want to be tossed on the garbage dump of Nazism," he told reporters. 'Fascist book' In March 2008, Mr Wilders posted a film about the Koran on the internet, prompting angry protests across the Muslim World. The opening scenes of Fitna - a Koranic term sometimes translated as "strife" - show a copy of the holy book followed by footage of the bomb attacks on the US on 11 September 2001, London in July 2005 and Madrid in March 2004. Pictures appearing to show Muslim demonstrators holding up placards saying "God bless Hitler" and "Freedom go to hell" also feature. The film ends with the statement: "Stop Islamisation. Defend our freedom." Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende said at the time that the film wrongly equated Islam with violence and served "no purpose other than to offend". A year earlier, Mr Wilders described the Koran as a "fascist book" and called for it to be banned in "the same way we ban Mein Kampf", in a letter published in the De Volkskrant newspaper. Mr Wilders has had police protection since Dutch director Theo Van Gogh was killed by a radical Islamist in 2004. Correspondents say his Freedom Party (PVV), which has nine MPs in the lower house of parliament, has built its popularity largely by tapping into the fear and resentment of Muslim immigrants.

A Dutch MP who called the Koran a "fascist book" says he still plans to travel to the UK despite being banned on public security grounds. Freedom Party MP Geert Wilders was invited to show his controversial film - which links the Islamic holy book to terrorism - in the UK's House of Lords. But Mr Wilders, who faces trial in his own country for inciting hatred, has been denied entry by the Home Office. He plans to fly into Heathrow later, saying: "Let's see what happens." 'Offensive' Mr Wilders' film Fitna caused outrage across the Muslim world when it was posted on the internet last year. Its opening scenes show a copy of the Koran followed by footage of the 9/11 attacks in the US and the bombings in Madrid in 2004 and London in 2005. The Dutch prime minister has said the film served "no purpose other than to offend". Mr Wilders was asked to show the film at the House of Lords by UK Independence Party peer Lord Pearson. However, he received a letter from the British Embassy in the Netherlands telling him he would not be allowed into the UK. The Home Office said there was a blanket ban on Mr Wilders entering the UK under EU laws enabling member states to exclude someone whose presence could threaten public security. "The government opposes extremism in all forms," it said in a statement, adding that it had tightened up rules on excluding those engaging in "unacceptable behaviour" in October. "It will stop those who want to spread extremism, hatred, and violent messages in our communities from coming to our country." The home secretary has the power to stop people entering the UK if she believes there is a threat to national security, public order or the safety of UK citizens, but she cannot exclude people simply because of their views. Mr Wilders described the decision as "cowardly" and said he still intends to travel to the UK on Thursday to take part in the event. He told the BBC: "It's incredible that an elected politician who was invited by one of your parliamentarians to a discussion with people who are against me, or in favour of me [was banned from the UK]." Mr Wilders added: "I was surprised and very saddened that the freedom of speech that was a very strong point of UK society has been harassed. I thought Great Britain had the mother of all parliaments." The Dutch government is reported to be trying to overturn the ban. In the past, Mr Wilders has called for the Koran to be banned and compared it to Mein Kampf. Earlier this year, a Dutch court ordered prosecutors to put Mr Wilders on trial for inciting hatred and discrimination by making anti-Islamic statements. Labour peer Lord Ahmed, who expressed his concerns to the Parliamentary authorities about Mr Wilders' visit, said he welcomed the decision to ban the MP. "It would be unwise to have him in the UK because this man's presence would cause hatred," he said. "He has a case against him in the Amsterdam court for inciting hatred." 'Attacked obviously' Lord Ahmed, who said other Muslim peers shared his concerns, stressed that Mr Wilders' views would certainly present a threat to public order. "When Muslims are attacked obviously you will see people react to that." And Chris Huhne, Lib Dem home affairs spokesman, said he had watched the film, which he called "revolting", and backed the ban. "Freedom of speech is our most precious freedom of all, because all the other freedoms depend on it," he said. "But there is a line to be drawn even with freedom of speech, and that is where it is likely to incite violence or hatred against someone or some group." But Lord Pearson said the decision to bar him was "weak and unacceptable in the extreme". "The Home Office is guilty of appeasement on this, clearly." The peer said the screening would still go ahead on Thursday whether Mr Wilders was present or not. He said the parliamentary authorities were happy for the event to take place but had ordered extra security for it. "The film does not threaten anyone," he said, adding that it simply showed how violent extremists justified their actions. He said the screening would be followed by a debate on issues relating to the Koran, extremism and freedom of speech. Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7882953.stm

Today's statistics are brought to you by... terrorism legislation Section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2000 allows the police to stop and search people. In 2008: Number of people stopped nationwide by British Transport Police using s 44: 160,000 Number of people stopped in London by the Metropolitan Police using s. 44: 200,000 Number of people amongst the 360,000 stopped under s. 44 and found to have any terrorist material or links: 0 Source: http://conservativehome.blogs.com/centreright/2009 /02/todays-statisti.html I've been stopped by the British Transport Police three times in Kings Cross station, I now avoid getting off at the stop.

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You moan too much adgi, did you not read the first page, already fatixa aya loo akhriey the Somali language. Serenity, you of all people, I expected you run a mile when you see a thread titled Ibtisam Somali 101! I mean what did you expect P.s. Serenity, have I improved? Malika, I'm working on that one now, you wait and see! hehe

^^AKA daadqaal I think is the other word, although they are not the same thing. Ever heard the above sheeko?? The song was laster used in the cities to bully girls. How was your birthday yesterday, belated wishes.

Ok okay, lets see. Beri hoore Waaxa jirtaey gaabad qurux badab, bislaatey as nuune would say. Waax qaabay nin xoolo baadan leeh and iinan bay u lahaayd ninka. One day, ninkii wuu iska tegey and naag kaley ayuu guursaaday, then xoolihiis gaabadi minweytahad waa laa qiibsad and the new one baa loo soocay, guuri weyen naag tii cuusbade waa looaga dhisey. Markay aragety meesha waaxa kaa daacey, the new house, half of her xool gone, habeenkii ayey intay innakedi xambaaratey kaa daaqajisey. Ninki was of course with the new wife and waax baa muu ogen till subaxdii. By then she was long gone and waa laga quustey gabadi iyo iinanki. In her misery and anger, gabadi weye luuntey, reerohoodi meeshi uguu tambaysay bey garanweys. She walked for days and nights with son till ii gaadhay dooxadii nogaal. Meeshasu waaxa ahadi meel lago baqo oo lagu yaaqaano qor iis marais [JB tell em what that is ] After a while, just before dark, waxey aragtay siigo soo kaacasey iyo waax soo ordaya at great speed. Then she feared for her son, so cagaha aya waax ka dayday, babababac juuf style. Markaasuu qoor iis maraiskiin iska tab dhigey. The gabad iyo iinakedo, they were buurranayeen, so qori iis maraiski hungry baa kaa soo dacey. So he intensified his chase. Iyaad na naflaacaari by this time so tab yar mai shidanyni, sii laa iisu baacsanye baa lug soo daac Boholaha Xargaga. Gabaadi markiiay aragtey inaanay bohosha diinac uga laaban kaarin without losing ground, said bisinka and weye kala dul booday, son and all. The qori iis maariis wuu ka dul boodii kaarii wayeh, so he said with ciil iyo caado: Bal naag taa baadheda dayaa bal bowdayo caadanata daya bal buluq-baluq deeda daya bal inanaki sidato daya hoh iyo Boholaha Xargaga qof xiimayeh ayah xidhaan qof duulayah ayah dabraan

Panorama - Gaza: Out of the Ruins, Monday 9 February at 8.30pm on BBC One. Review after Inshallah.