Juxa, I do, it comes t my phone now like txt I can't avoid it CL Faheema is fine, she found a new entertainment for now.

I don't want an obituary. My family and friends would already know what or who I was, what is the use telling a bunch of strangers. It never made any sense to me. And if I am dead what does it matter anyway. Maybe if I went far far away from family and friends, then just to inform them of my death. All it would say is the date, full name and where I hid the left over money in codes. CL and Juxa, never crossed my mind, I guess I am not expecting to know anyone nor I'm a fan of anyone important enough to care for in the public. I always thought it was for rich people, celebrities with huge followings and people with no families. P.s. In Islam we are not suppose to chit chit about someone after their death of what they were or been or did. Not sure what the deal is on obituary pages if they dont have the purpose of informing.

^Is today angry sherban shabeel day?

beri feri qosal iyo jag jag @ sheh. Juxa, stop been lazy, we live around the corner from you and we not had a cake date for ages. I even lost weight, I don't know how much, but my clothes feel comfy.

^^yes it happens often Cara. So strange the things we take for granted here. Maybe I should move to France and start opening some PFC (perfect fired chicken) The hala version of KFC which is in every corner in the UK, there are 8 in my road, 4next to each other.

Oh my god :eek: , from now on my txt will say !hello heblayo, that way if anyone gets then by mistake they know it aint for them. Not that I want him to think I send such txt in those context anyway might have to do the whole story "hey you know for the wedding in June/ Nov/ Jan what ....." lool Hunk is very very funny and charming. Sheh alhumdulilah glad to hear you are not calling everyone Xalimo iyo farah anymore Juxa! of course and indeed

^^You need to come and get your books too, I carried it around with all day, it got a little wet in the rain. I dump them at Faheemas. I wont be fun if you cross over to the otherside- more like a nightmare

^^^LOoool Interesting how you remember certain things sheh! loool. Oh did I tell you we had out lunch date... or rather dates since Juxa! lool haha. Sure what phone do u have? Are you one of the four?

Sheh Lool, some are but others are M and Y, should be no where near each other. Waxan ku idi I am going to put a password on certain ppl now; Old people I aint see for years, married women and men if it is after 4pm and my Madressa macalin from the 70s cod codki. :eek:

Sheh I forgot to tell you about that part. Those pills are crazy, you have to eat certain food with them to feel full otherwise you are going to feel like half of your day goes on making food or thinking about food. Eat heavy food that takes a while to digest. I hate my blackberry, there is Jiin in mine. Since I got it last week I've committed so many crimes. This morning I woke up only to see that it committed three txt crimes: 1) I sent a txt to a friend about 10pm saying "are we still meeting tomorrow? my place or out?" It sent it to my old Iranian teacher at university. I am hoping he has deleted my number and wonders who they hell he is suppose to be meeting. 2) I sent a txt nearly 12am to my friend who is stressing about her wedding saying "nyt nyt me love, hope everything works out and you are not too stressed" It sent it to my married MALE friend, and he sent me a warning which I saw this morning about I'm trying to get him divorced what is with the mid nyt lover txts! :eek: :eek: 3) I've been avoiding this person successfully for 8months, it forwarded a message to them from another friend which talked about meeting up, missing you iyo long time no see :eek: I hate this phone!!! :mad: :mad: Did I mention that if I am txt and someone calls me, it waits till I finish txt and then gives me notice that I have miss calls and so many other things. I want my simple qarafaduug phone. Anyone wanna swap. : Morning people SalamAlikum and Jumca Mubarak, I feel like we've had two weeks in one this week. Hello weekend.

Adam, they say never send a man to do a womens job (in this case trusting you with our baby) you just went and gave it away :eek: How could it be so. Serenity I wonder why? did you insist you was right on something for years only to find out you was wrong all along now

Adam: Say what? :eek: :eek:

This why they have the PM feature, don't you think

CL Juxa is married, she needs to believe in Love- or pretend at least Juxa I am exhausted, trying banging your head against a brick wall sometime, but I blame it on my silly notion that I think everyone in time, age and Allahs will, can sooner or later see the light at the end of the tunnel in everything Muslim.

SalamAlikum everyone Hello girls, how is it going?

^^Read it again Lazy, I did not call his credibility into account; I said he is one of the three, and guess what I looked around and did some searching, guess what?? He is the first option for sure; This guy is not a hero, he is just an individual with an opinion and I would hear him out, much like I’ve been hear Lazy out, but at the end of the day he is one of the following: 1) A reformist Muslim- as someone who is trying be a die hard salafi wahabi I have issues with them. but there are a few that I find interesting and like- I don’t know enough about him, but I would’ve liked to read what he had to say about the two things I mentioned above OR 2) Attention seeking, booty licking, money seeking media w*o**e. 3) He is a front for CIA, M15, Interpol or one agency or another and they use him to draw out extremist, we have a few in the UK. He is just a man with a view lazy. You've had the same view as him for ages, it does not make you or him a hero or anymore or a true Muslim than me or you. Fundamentalists and non-fundamentalists alike are all competing for the voices of these women and its all about who can get to them first because I still believe there is hope that we can start with few but asking the tough questions is just as effective. In this case, the possibilities are endless raamsade. Oh yes because of course, someone needs to get to them and tell them which way to walk, after all they can't see! Scoreboard?; I don't keep one, you need to let that go, discussion is only useful for so long as their is a postive exchange. You just want to stand on the side and beat the same beat. So lord knows I tried, but I'm giving up on you. SalamAlikum Lazy and I hope you learn to read before ranting.

About Muslims dying on the hands of other Muslims, that is a fact and no need to go back as early as the 90s to justify the killing and bloodshed of innocent umma, the last few year is good enough of a record to draw from, so don't even try that classic angle of looking at a longer record just so you can sleep better at night by by denying that thousands of muslims lives were lost in the hands of not 'infidels' but fellow muslims. Lets draw our examples from this century , which is that you dont believe more Muslims have died in the hands of suicide bombers, claiming to be Muslims 'which means they went through the shahada' and we can call them Muslims in all intents and purposes, so dont even try sista, unless you firmly believe they were not muslims(the suicide bombers) (i'm shocked more about you denying the deaths of many Muslims tonight, the same Muslims who lost their lives violently in the hands of fellow Muslims, more than I am of the killers taking innocent muslim lives to justify their misguided causes) Oh the drama. This is not going anywhere and I am bored with going in circles with you dear sister. Forget anything else, you are even talking about two different Ibtis. It is at this point that I say okay, I think I am done. Since you refuse to read or research: Here is my parting gift: The Human Cost of the War in Iraq 2002-2006 conducted by an American and Iraqi team of public health researchers. http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/images/10/11/human.cost.of.war.pdf Violent, coalition death: 95 (31%) Violent, Other 71 (24%) Violent, unknown 136 (45%) Gunshot 169 (56%) Car bomb 38 (13%) Other explosion/ordinance 43 (14%) Air strike 40 (13%) It concludes: 654,965 persons have died as a consequence of the conflict, 601,027 have died from violence; This is 2.5% of the Iraqi population above what would have occurred without conflict, …. The proportion of deaths ascribed to coalition forces has diminished in 2006, though the actual numbers have increased each year. All sources agree it is the largest major international conflict of the 21st century. Just in case you don’t find this study crediable like Bush. The Iraqi Body count is a pro American, Pro invasion and although their numbers are lower (based on actually recorded death) it is still high enough to prove my point. This is what The Iraqi body count published in 2007: The civilian death toll by US fire was 96 in October, with 23 children among them, while in September US forces and contractors killed 108 Iraqi civilians, including 7 children. In August US troops killed 103 civilians, 16 of them children, and in July they killed 196. In fact, during the last five months US forces in Iraq have killed over 600 Iraqi civilians. Regrettably, as always. Here is a link http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ which currently documented civilian deaths from violence stands at 95,412 – 104,103 READ it, it has month by month graphs even if you don’t have time to read the reports. Now we know what the west and their troops killed, moving on to Suicide bombs: The first 8 months of 2007 saw the most massive vehicle bomb-based attacks in Iraq’s history, and occurring with greater frequency than ever. There were 20 bomb attacks killing over 50 (in one case, over 500) civilians in 2007, compared to 12 in 2006 and 17 in all of 2003 to 2005. However, there have been no further vehicle bomb attacks of this scale since August 2007. So 17 in all of 2003-2005 12 in 2006 20 Bombs in 2007 Now you do the bloody math’s, and if you can’t read around. Deaths of non-combatants such as civilian bystanders killed in firefights and other attacks involving US-led Coalition military forces rose from 544–623 in 2006 to 868–1,326 in 2007. • Air strikes featured in the vast majority of these incidents, which left at least 88 children dead. • Civilian deaths directly attributable to US forces alone (ie, not involving any other combatants) increased steeply from 394–434 reported in 2006 to 669–756 in 2007. Even Wikipedia will give you a break down, so quit being difficult and educate yourself, not so you can argue with people, but so you are more aware of the world. Now I am not going to baby sit you and go through Afghanistan death toll as well. Oh and by the way, death by suicide and bombings by Muslims I also blame on the Gaalos, Or rather the West (I hear they have Muslims in the army) because it is of direct results of their action it happened. Do you know how many bombs went off in Mosques and Markets in Iraq and Afghanistan before we showed up to liberate them? ZERO Now my dear LAZY, these above ARE FACTS, not the rant you wrote above (it is a rant because it has no leg to stand on) Search high and low and find one credible or even a non-credible one which claims that the West killed less people. Goodbye and Salamah.

I should come to his aid why? You said: You should come to his defense so he can feel as thought he is protecting himself instead of allowing him to rotten in jail, not because he broke laws but because his arrest, his trial is a political statement, nothing more, nothing less. Come again?? :confused: I should defend him so he can feel like he is protecting himself? I don't think you know what you want to say here, just ranting. As for Pakistan or Afghanistan, I don't think you know their history if you think more people died at the hands of Muslims compared to Gaalo. It is too early to re-write the 1990s history Lazy. I think these fundamentalists were riding easy and continue to ride easy in some places and if it weren't for the policies of blair and Bush, they would have went on business as usual, as thought they didnt commit mass murder Again you are confused, the key words are there though, Blair, Bush and mass murder. Read the news the enquire is going on now. All in all, I do not fear someone who preaches hate speech and tells his constituents that he will abort the mass immigration policy of colored people as much as I fear someone who is planting hate in the hearts of young Muslims to take up jihad and take out innocent lives, muslims and non-muslims alike in the name of their leader Nabiga ku salahi, you just contradicted yourself. Both preach hate and plant hate in certain groups of people- this speech may result in action on both sides, yet you support one and not the other. Ibti, you have to realize, when a country is at war, all best are off and frankly, reading about the post-world war I&II policy in north america, it does not even compare to how muslims are dealt because they are rolling high and are given executive pass in the name of (political correctness because I guess as a society, we have come to acknowledge the other races, so we afford them courtesy not to offend, even at war times). WHO is at war here? Muslims and the West? my dear, what do you make of the documentaries of channel one and such programs going undercover on local masjids and outting visiting 'imams' who preach hate and incite violence? They are allowed to roam around the streets freely. You are wrong there, with the exception of 3 (who nothing was proven against) they all got charged, warned and some recieved 2yr sentences. Watch the follow up of that documentary on BBC2 on Mondays. Until recently, these imams were afforded the liberty to cross from one corner of the globe to the other, preaching to different congregation about how the 'white man' is the devil and he should not be tolerated and as soon as they were called on their double standard, they embraced the same 'infidel constitution' and called for its protection under the privacy violations that the west committed against them. Yad yad yad ya, I'm bored, WHO said the white man is the devil? You sure it was not the American 5%? because Islam is not about colour and most know that. I understand some Preachers are not acceptable to the west or even Muslims, but I also think you fail to understand that aspects of Islam will always offend people who are not Muslim. This is the same for all religions. I don't feel the need to shy away from telling the truth about an Islamic issue, nor do I feel the need to apologies for it, if it offends you, take it up with God, but that is what I believe. Now save us the drama dear, make up your mind about what you want to tell us.

"Don't move a muscle. Bushbabies are everywhere... everywhere... Shoot the ******* big-eyed wanky shite ****s! Kick 'em. Stamp them. Poke 'em in their big eyes! Take that for scaring the crap out of me." Feb 13 2010 "Oh, don't worry, dear. The spot doesn't make you ugly. No no no. The rest of your face, now THAT makes you ugly. The spot's just a highlight." __________ Karen's note: Here in the UK, spot = zit. Feb 10 2010 "Hey, I've got a great idea. You **** off out of my life forever. Perfect!" "Doozers. You know the doozers. They're geezers, the doozers... Tossbag!" "Kisses and cuddles. Thank you. Get used to it." "Barbie dolls. I've got to use barbie dolls. They're so underrated!" __________ Karen's note: Wow. Sleep Talkin' Man actually said something sweet. Adam chattered his head off last night. Not only were there these, there were FIVE MORE that I got to add to the honeymoon store! Maybe I'll feed him aubergine (eggplant) lasagna every night. "My *** and my personality are the same thing. Huge and in your face." Typical Caadan, he swears even in his dream/ sleep talking!. lol

A woman's husband sleep-talks at night and she records the brilliance for the world. Here's the most recent entry: It makes me laugh. Feb 16 2010 "Forks. Forks to the left. To the left! No, greasy mugs go there. You really have everything ***-****ed backwards, don't you." "Why don't you make your mouth useful. Say goodbye." "You've got to save the curtains! Save the curtains... They hold so many secrets." "Please bounce on my bed with me. Bounce with me. Because there's nothing more romantic than bouncing..... Boing." __________ Karen's note: I've never mentioned that Adam also has a funny way of waking up. Adam goes from dead asleep to fully cognizant in a single moment. He's what you might call a morning person. For example, this morning, he was lying there, breathing slowly and deeply, dead to the world. Suddenly, his eyes popped open and he announced, "Ear plugs. We have to get ear plugs for honeymoon. We don't know how loud it will be in the jungle." And this was not something out of a dream, or part of his sleep-talking. This was an entirely relevant, perfectly-formed thought. What a freak. Oh, hey, we just enabled fan photos on the Facebook page 20100105 Jan 4 2010 "Let me hold you in my arms. Feel me squeeze the living ******* breath out of your ******* body. Bliss. Lovely." "Skipping to work makes everything better." "I haven't put on weight. Your eyes are fat." "I'd rather peel off my skin and bathe my weeping raw flesh in a bath of vinegar than spend any time with you. But that's just my opinion. Don't take it personally." "Elephant trunks should be used for elephant things only. Nothing else." "Lentils are evil. Pure ******* oozing evil. Take them away from me." "My vision of hell is a lentil casserole." "By the way, washing in rose water doesn't stop you smelling like a piece of shit." "Avocados? You can shove them up your *** as well." "Be happy happy happy happy." "Now **** off and let me bask in the glory of being me." Wife's note: Wow. This was a goldmine of a night. Eleven entries, a new record! http://sleeptalkinman.blogspot.com/

Lazy, you are just ranting about everything "Muslim". I can't take you seriously when you jump from Burqa to the Imam to death threats and fake fatwahs and culture and women issues and back to telling me that our life and religion is under threat. Wax baad is dhex walaaqi and it just comes across as a rant. 1) If you want to discuss Burqa and you have some new arguments or evidence; Go back to the old thread, I'm still waiting for answers, no need to start from ground zero again. 2) If you want to discuss why there is a rise in young angry Muslims, start a new thread, I have some interesting info on that 3) If you want to discuss why women are or less likely to be terrorist that is another huge issue on its own 4) If you want to tell us that only your way of Islam is correct and the rest of us are wrong, start a new thread 5)If you want to tell us about our biggest enemies and argue it is Muslims, again you might even say something interesting, so say something As it stands now, today I would be more in danger and fear of the likes you and Johnny than Taliban and Bin Laden. 6) If you are simply highlighting and campaign for the treatment/reaction this Imam got, then stick to this thread. I'm sure you will find that most of us, don't want to kill or harm him. All in all you sound very angry and by touching on so many issues which on their own are huge, you are biting more than you can chew and then consistently spitting it back out, only to take another huge bite and start a new thread. I find you as frustrating as the Fundamental Muslims, who learnt bit of everything and nothing in depth, every time you corner them on one issue they jump the fence. Now I'm sure if you put your angry and emotions aside you might be able to move on from this stagnant thought process which you have been stuck on for the last few years. I understand that you have so much passion and you have so much to say on so many things, but it always sounds like issues are tumbling out on top of each other and you never quite finish the though process of any one issue, by that I mean conveying it readers, I’m sure in your head you have all your conclusions. In any case that is my sincere advise as a fellow Muslimah, as an activist my advise will be to learn how to have dialog and engage people. If you cannot make people listen to you, you cannot influence or change anything even if you have multibillion idea. Hate Bin Laden all you want, but the guy has built a self sustaining brand which crosses culture and religion sects , which now requires little input or influence from him, no one has seen him in 8yrs yet his shadow still lurks around, his idea living through people as diverse as Somali camel herders, Nigerian oil rich families, bare foot Palestinians, one eyes Afghans, and spoilt western Muslim generations who have never know hardship. Now I understand you want to reclaim those people he influenced to your way of thinking (the Americans and Europeans are trying to lock them all up, but this only helps his cause) but how can you influence people who won’t engage with you or listen to you, it certainly won’t work you bashing them on newspapers and TV, nor would it work if your argument has no coherent thread that people can trace and appeals to their logic. Sadly whatever appeal or potential your ideas would have or may have, if you cannot express them probably without offending me they will never reach their potential. This is why I never argue with Johnny or Ramasaad or Cicero, because to them Muslims are never going far enough till they reach their stage. I fear you are going down their route, I see you calling people faithheads and so forth; this only implies that you are not serious about Muslim issues and it is worthless discussing anything with you, for a debate without sincerity is time wasted. People have to get off their high horse and leave this condescending tone on the shelf, be willing to have your mind change or to accept a compromise but most of all ensure that how you express yourself does not contradict what you are claiming; be it Muslim or social aware liberal individual. P.s. Aside from Johnny and Co, of the Muslims in this form notice I am the only one who bothers to engage with you anymore. Johnny and co just cheers you on because they can hide behind you. Tell me how do you expect to influence or educate people by isolating yourself and them. :confused:

^^^That guy is JB

^^^Palestinians work as engineers, instructors and in technology-related professions, hence numberwise at least it seems/reported they were hit the worst by the program. Others started their own businesses such as Arab-Tech (I think they are gone bust now). Hence why I said by default; the jobs that the nationals wanted these guys were sitting on. Palestinians much like the Iraqis and Lebanese generally are highly skilled with long years of experience in their respective fields. In any case I can see xadko ayaad isku heesa eh say what ever you got to say before you choke on it.

^^This thread is not about Somalis though Ngonge, :confused:

^^Loool @ soiling their white dhishdhashas, true, so I guess by default they end up as the majority to go home. Ngonge, adigi qofkasto oo waxa igu qabsaad gacanta qabo Blessed lives their, so she is more likely to know all the good stuff which I dont mind reading, and I expect her to defend and lecture and tell me those things are small compared to all the good they do, which may very well be.