Classified true I forget them often because walaliida Somaliiad ayaan iyaga raaciya. But you are correct.

Anyone else been following the events that have been playing out? The fast and surprising Western deal with Iran which effectively exposes the crazy Netanyahu who is the new mad dog. But even more important is the new empowered Shia authority who originally laid dispersed across so many countries. Most immediate effect will be in Syria and Kurds in Turkey and Iraq. Although I know this is significant and it will cause some shift in power balance (Assad is more likely to stay more than ever) but I wonder how wide reaching the impact will be, for Turkey, For Saudi Arabia and Bahrain who were already struggling with the different sects in their population. Anyway below is an article by Robert Fisk for anyone wonder what on earth I am jabbering on about! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/robert-fisk-he-may-huff-and-puff-but-benjamin-netanyahu-is-on-his-own-now-as-nuclear-agreement-isolates-israel-8960766.html

While Somaliland security sector needs all the support and help it can get- I find the "threat" from Somalia argument quit deluded- and I find it embarrassing whenever go to see the MOI and he says such things. It is a joke- Somalia can't do anything to anyone. I dont get why Somaliland officials give Somalia all this publicity and credit- please explain if you can- particularly the new MOI? :confused:

The UK funded projects are many and progressing well- I hope they leave some noticeable and sustainable change in Somaliland security.

Eeeer I hate to spoil the party- but the money has already been spent in Somaliland! it is not new money- it is just the final authorization for the public ceremony and handover. The equipment and money have all been delivered in the last two years and are all currently in use. There is a consideration to expand the project and appeal for more money to do this;

XX I just checked- it must be over 30 days old because it is not on iplayer anymore! Sorry

Lol Typical Somali- Almost every nomad came in and proposed a coup and new government- all these switching and changing loyalties- so similar to reality- I fear that all we know will mirror the scary Somali political transitions! Saffers- thank you but that is a toothless position- while I support your government- I would like to be considered as a powerful lobbyist and a personal adviser. Who I support shall remain in power and he who crosses me shall witness my influence, power and money

XX download Hola (you can google) It will set your setting to UK- so you can watch it on iPlayer- that is how I manage to watch it.

Alpha Blondy;986658 wrote: is there a symbiotic lesbionic relations between you and Saffz? No, just advising you to put your best foot forward- I can understand your insecurities even towards her female cyber friends since you clearly feel like you are punching above your scale and she settled. But dont worry, she is save from me at least-

Alpha you should be happy your intended better half is winning- in any relationship it is wise to invest in the smarter, kind, level headed, adult and responsible adult to carry the torch for your survival and success- you would well to get behind Saffers skirt to carry you through life. That aside 134 people already voted- and unlike any other Somali election- it does not seem to be along clan lines AND a women is winning (GD does not count because he is not even here anymore- waa tribute vote wiixisu). This Poll is indeed valid representation and it is amazing that these nomads voted for the same one person: Apo, Doc, Me, Haatu, and Tallabo- could you think of a more different group of people than this list!? Even more astonishing is that AfricaOwn voted for Apo!

Tallaabo;986526 wrote: This year I am voting for Safferz:o She so effortlessly made many cyber enemies from amongst the traditionalists, religious extremists, sexists, strongwomanphobes, trolls, and pseudo-intellectuals. I second this- was going to write the exact same thing! Good luck Saffers

Apophis: I totally agree and it might well be possible that Leila and I would have a completely different ideas on what or how Muslim women should live their life, but I think what we fundamentally agree on is that it is arrogant for anyone to tell any Muslim women that they are in need of rescuing and if there is a version- it wont be the western liberal version.

Apophis;985802 wrote: I think it's quiet telling that you selected a comment which criticises a group representing (a section) of a particular clan. Your clannism is subtle but there. Fortunately, I do not believe clannishness is a bad thing and thus take no issue. As you were. Huh??? What clan? :confused:

There are criticisms of this project- For example "This piece by OSF depicts Somalis with non-human, unrecognizable and unidentifiable figures. Even the cartoons do not look anything like Somalis. I'll take Amin Amir's sketches any day over this. Therefore, it behooves me to say that this piece dehumanizes us, and you most certainly do not depict "The Largest Minority Group" in Europe as cartoons, rather through actual photography and videography. We are now reduced to cartoons in the acts of seemingly advocating for us but actually perpetuating stereotypes by having hyperlinks under this project to CNN and BCC about recent bombings in Kenya and Somalia. Don't buy into this." Somali brother. But I think he takes issues with the method- cartoons rather than message- and although I agree with him, I can understand that some of the stories are too depressing and sad to associate with real faces and individuals (and then it is a specific story of a specific person, rather an a generic story which could be part of the overall experience) Also which migrant would agree to putting their picture up?

Classified;985752 wrote: Afkaad soo marin kariweydii at first, Ayeeyo. Miyaadan ogayn dhulku waa Somaliland. Ayeeyo, I think waxba ku dhaqdhaqaya- anigu I have no problem saying any part or specific area- it is a generic and inclusive comparison to where I LIVE which has had a low death toll -3 compared to say for example Puntland with a death toll of 300 as it says on the other thread. As I said this is neither the time or place for childish squabbles. It does not matter what the DHULKU is when people die. Grow up.

We could factor in the fact that most who want to rescue "Muslim women" are [the liberals] neither Christians or Jewish In this context would I be more accurate saying: they will not leave Muslim women alone, until they have them posing naked on a new car, with the slogan "Test drive her now" scrawled on the bottom of that ad. As for book deals, documentaries yad yad ya- I dont know HOW that is relevant in this thread?? Have you read the article I posted? I think not- because this article is about exactly the opposite of what you are saying- and even though you may not like the fact that it is a liberal Arab women who is saying it- you may find that it articulates some of your own thoughts. Safferz: Interesting notes- I dont like Shafik to be honest and Al-Gahazli I agree strongly sometimes, but often I find her a little blinded in her stance. Fundamentally I dont think feminism can be found in Islam regardless of what cultural foundation or watered down interpretations are used. Simply because Islam is quite specific and detailed- leaving little room for redefining while staying within its parameters. Whatever rights that were intended for women were given at that specific time, to a culture which was quite extreme in its treatment of females. Are those rights enough in today's world/society and can they be expanded? I think it is not rights that is lacking, but implementation of those rights- so yes they are enough in today's Muslim society, but no I dont think there is room to expand it. Beyond that it becomes an individual choice- there is never going to be a unified Islamic feminism ideology- and there need not be one. Look how bad "Islamic democracy" is turning out!

Haye? Meesha qasaab majiro- if you dont like- dont read. That aside as for are the stories true- whose stories are they etc: I dont know who is behind the project so I cant comment on that, but I dont think that it is important at all. I know enough Somali refugee circumstances, I know my own and my families journey to identify and have empathy with the collective experience. It does not matter what the individual journey is and how few clever ones made up stories. Also Maqane Asylum has increasingly become difficult, but there was a time, that conditions in "Somalia" was bad everyone qualified. Focus on the themes- rather than who, what, and how- what do you want? their picture and clan so we can verify it with their elders. Anigu I read it as the collective experience of refugees- context specific to Somalis. Also, if it does not move you then that is fine- Maybe you guys were privileged enough not to face some of the same issues or know any who did.

Classified;985748 wrote: What other "Somali areas" might that be? What is with big smile adiga? Puntland, Somalia and Ethiopian Somalis- where did you think I meant? China? :rolleyes: Not everything need be a debate-

SomaliPhilosopher;985738 wrote: If you were in power, I would surely fight for Somalilands independence or plan a coupé one or the other +1 On topic- Fasial wuu walaan yahey why do we keep giving coverage to nin walaan.

Subxanallah!! I didnt realise the death toll was so high! Any news on whether the rains and floods have subsided? The relief efforts will be hampered- but if it has cleared it would be easier to carry out damage assessment and aid those in need. May Allah aid us all. Despite all the advance warning, our capacity for natural disaster and its impact is so low.

The weather is starting to clear and most places, including Hargeisa airports are reopening here. Sun is even shinning- although still heavy clouds around. And it is starting to rain again as I type! The death toll in Somaliland is quite low compared to other Somali areas- just heavy rain which if it continues for few days can cause damage and floods. Subxanallah may allah aid all those affected- particularly the homeless and those who live in shacks/ nomads. Its been windy and cold. Disaster has no religion, politics or division- therefore the response should have no distinction.

^^^ Akhi Edward Said was a Secularist Christian and he probably stuck up for Muslims more than most- oh and guess what he cared little for anyone's religion- just nationalistic and humanist Safferz Akhi - I did thanks- and the notes too! looking forward to reading it

Except it is upside down/sideways- can't figure out how to turn it sideways.

Safferz, that is great! thanks!! If the notes dont infringe on copy right post them! would love to read them Who knows how long this storm might last- for now starting on Janice book! thank you

^^^Lol Sii dacaad aha ayaan uu qosley! lol