Balerz, it takes a real dawg to say that. Do yo thang playa. Positivity, education, knowing yo roots (somali, muslim, etc) ...

Balerz, it takes a real dawg to say that. Do yo thang playa. Positivity, education, knowing yo roots (somali, muslim, etc) ...

Balerz, it takes a real dawg to say that. Do yo thang playa. Positivity, education, knowing yo roots (somali, muslim, etc) ...

Balerz, it takes a real dawg to say that. Do yo thang playa. Positivity, education, knowing yo roots (somali, muslim, etc) ...

Adeer, Habaryar stairmaster or treadmill

IC that Kamila and Jamal11 r trying to get ideas from their fellow nomads and I ain't mad at ya. Mine is coming insha Allah. Becuase I still never thought of getting mary anytime soon but would luv sharing it and what's better way than to keep it traditional you know. guys wearing Macawis,go' shaal,koofiyad. DUmarkana sidoo kale you know all dresssssssssssssed up with the Traditional and invite the Xerta Timo Waynta si ay uga digriyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. Holla

love the idea

been getting mails from young females lately. Igrnored all of them. Ego shyt. Now I know they were virus. lol

been getting mails from young females lately. Igrnored all of them. Ego shyt. Now I know they were virus. lol

Yo, I feel sorry for the fellow Muslim Palestinians and wish one day the billion or so Muslims would help. But int the meantime, as an African/Somali/Muslims, we should start by looking what has happened/happening to our motherland ya know. So in this case we should start taking care of our own problems and issues then worry others. Like they say in Somali "Ninkii tiisa daryeelaa tu kale ku dara" Holla

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Bro, can you describe the problem so ppl can give you some answers. One

Bro, can you describe the problem so ppl can give you some answers. One

cuz the topic in the teens forum. Thats why. we not teenagers. Nas

cuz the topic in the teens forum. Thats why. we not teenagers. Nas

Juventus have once again made a bid for Lazio Somali playmaker Fabio Liverani, who has been the revelation of the Serie A season. The 25-year-old, who used to play in the Serie C1 (Italy's third division) up until last season has proven to be an exhilarating discovery, so much so that coach Giovanni Trapattoni decided to call him up to the Italian national last year. Juventus have offered $12.5 million (US) plus one player among Michele Paramatti, Alssandro Birindelli or Jonathan Bachini. In order to convince get the player, who is rated at around $US20 million, the management of the "Old Lady" is also ready to surrender also Marco Zanchi, a defender. Liverani, who was also the first black player born in Italy to have donned the jersey of the Azzuri, also became the first black-Italian player to sign for a major Serie A team.

let me reply to myself to show the game ... Rap Music Bariis or Baasto

Aight, this is a simple game. Amma post a question. The nomad who replies will answer the question and then post one question for the next nomad to answer namean?. The answer only shows your preference and the question ya ask should be about anything but in a simple format... namean?. This game thread will get us going when we are bored ... namean? So..... here we go: Rap music or Somali Music?

Having sex is yet another great past time for burning up those unwanted fat producing calories... REMOVING CLOTHES With partner's consent... 12 calories Without partner's consent... 187 calories UNHOOKING BRA Using two calm hands... 7 calories Using one trembling hand... 36 calories GETTING INTO BED Lifting partner... 1.5 calories Dragging partner along floor... 16 calories Using skateboard... 3 calories ACHIEVING ERECTIONS For normal healthy man... 2.5 calories Losing erection... 14 calories Searching for it... 115 calories PUTTING ON CONDOM With erection... 1.5 calories Without erection... 300 calories INSERTING DIAPHRAGM If the woman who does it is: Experienced... 6 calories Inexperienced... 73 calories If a man does it... 650 calories Add five calories for retrieving it from across the room. POSSIBLE INTERCOURSE SIDE EFFECTS Bouncing... 7 calories Sliding around... 9 calories Serious skidding... 12 calories Whiplash... 27 calories ORGASM Real... 27 calories Faked... 160 calories ORGASMIC INTENSITY SCALE Shoes flew off... 35 calories Expression didn't change... 0.5 calories Orchestra swelled... 6 calories Birds sang: Large birds... 7 calories Small birds... 3 calories Earth moved... 30 calories PULLING OUT After orgasm... 0.5 calories A few moments before orgasm... 500 calories PENIS ENVY For woman... 3 calories For men... 72 calories GUILT Banging your boss for a promotion... 30 calories Sex during a 'sickie'... 10 calories Bonking each other with parents in other room... 7 calories Putting it on your expense account... 9 calories AGGRAVATION Partner keeps showing plant... 5 calories Partner insists on dog cuddling during foreplay... 14 calories Partner just visited bathroom for 7th time... 10 calories Partner is taking phone calls... 7 calories Partner is making phone calls... 40 calories GETTING CAUGHT By partner's spouse... 60 calories By your spouse... 100 calories Trying to explain... 55 calories Trying to remain calm... 100 calories Leaping out of bed... 75 calories Getting dressed in one motion... 500 calories Get back to ya with more tips.

Hey, Haniif, your questions are always very important. Many of them dudes might not understand it but I personally appreciate them namean?. this some serious stuff. just remeber if ya don't get a response, there are always those of us reading it. cool

Hey, Haniif, your questions are always very important. Many of them dudes might not understand it but I personally appreciate them namean?. this some serious stuff. just remeber if ya don't get a response, there are always those of us reading it. cool

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I would also recommend BREAKING UP WITH YOUR GIRL ... it cuts that extra cheese Thunder recommended. Vitamin supplements aren't bad either namean? Gives ya that extra completeness namean I don't recommend wearing tight t-shirts before you cut that BELLY namean? If ya don't have weights at home and ya don't like going to the gym, try to find a little girl ya can lift namean? Hold her neck with one hand and her butt with the other and lift her lying down ... namean?. It is always a good bench press practice. Get back to ya with more tips.

If Jamaal, Shaqsii, Q-Storm and lovely Barwaaqo and lovely Ameenah can come together, ya all can make a difference. Nomadic issues and safety ....namean? loooooooooool

Mustafa Kemal Atatürk was born in Salonika (now the Greek city of Thessaloniki) in 1881 (or 1880, the exact date is unknown). The son of a minor customs official, he lost his father at the age of seven or eight. He was an excellent student and is said to have been named Kemal by his math teacher in recognition of his brilliance. He went on to military school and a career in the Ottoman army. The "new" Ottoman army was a creation of Sultan Mahmud the second and reflected the desire of the crumbling Ottoman Empire to reform and modernize itself. Andrew Mango begins his massive biography of Atatürk with a look at the decrepit edifice of this great empire. Founded in the 14th century, the Ottoman Empire reached the zenith of its power in the 17th when Suleiman the magnificent knocked on the gates of Vienna. But by that time, the balance of power in Europe was already beginning to shift. European advances in science, technology and organization first led to dominance at sea. By the 18th century, the tide was turning on land too and by the beginning of the 19th century it was clear even to the Ottoman rulers that a huge and almost unbridgeable gap had opened between them and their western antagonists. The Ottomans made a series of attempts to improve their position. After the janissaries foiled the first attempt at military reform, Sultan Mahmut the Second succeeded in destroying their power in 1825. Attempts were made to modernize the Ottoman army and administration. Some modern education was introduced, as were telegraph, railways and the rudiments of an industrial base. The power of the ulema was reduced and in 1875 the sultan actually issued a modern constitution (though it was soon suspended). But none of these measures succeeded in converting the Ottoman Empire into a modern state capable of meeting its European rivals as an equal. Slowly but steadily, the Ottoman possessions in Europe were being stripped away from them. Every succeeding treaty imposed new humiliations on the tottering empire. "Capitulations" provided special privileges to Europeans and gave them immunity from Ottoman laws. Greek and Armenian minorities were becoming increasingly bolder in their claims and received support from western countries that magnified all Ottoman persecutions but rarely paid any attention when Turks or Muslims were the victims of massacres or ethnic cleansing in the Balkans. Mustafa Kemal grew up in this atmosphere and like many other educated and westernized Turks, he felt these humiliations very keenly. He had links with the young Turks who took control of the empire in a soft coup in 1908. The young Turks, who were trying to save the empire, actually hastened its demise by choosing to enter the First World War on the side of Germany. To Mustafa Kemal’s credit, he was opposed to participation in the war, but he had no role yet at the head of affairs in Istanbul. He was an outstanding young officer though, and had served with distinction in Libya and Syria before he got his big opportunity at Gallipoli in 1915. On the 25th of April, allied forces had landed at Gallipoli, hardly 50 miles from Istanbul. The ragtag Turkish army that faced them included lieutenant colonel Mustafa Kemal, commanding the undermanned and ill-equipped 19th division. He had the high ground and he was determined to hold it. The first regiment he threw into the battle is said to have received the famous order (famous in Turkey, if nowhere else): "I do not order you to attack, I order you to die. By the time we are dead, other units and commanders will have come up to take our place" Thanks to his meticulous research, Mr Mango informs us that the actual order was a little different. According to papers found on a dead Turkish soldier, the actual order was: "I do not expect that any of us would not rather die than repeat the shameful story of the Balkan war. But if there are such men among us, we should at once lay hands upon them and set them up in line to be shot." Against all odds (and contrary to all expectations), the Turks held on at Gallipoli and after 8 months of bloody fighting, the allies withdrew. Mustafa Kemal had proven himself in battle, but he was still an unknown in most of Turkey. He then received a command in eastern Anatolia and again distinguished himself under very difficult conditions. It was here that colonel Ismet and Ali Fuat served under him; both were to be crucial allies and partners after the war. As the war ended, the Ottoman Empire was in tatters. The Balkans and the Arab lands had been lost completely. Allied troops held Istanbul and plans were being drawn up to partition out the remaining Turkish heartland. Greek troops landed in western Anatolia while Armenians were threatening in the east. The sultan was a helpless puppet in allied hands. At this moment of doom, Mustafa Kemal stepped forward to save Turkey. He had never lacked in confidence; during a boozing session in his youth, he told his friend Nuri Conker that one day he would make him Prime Minister. Asked what he himself would be, he answered, "The man who makes Prime Ministers." Turkey’s man of destiny landed at Samsun (Anatolia) in May 1919. He had managed to get himself appointed the inspector of the 9th army in Erzurum. Ostensibly he was on a mission on behalf of the puppet government in Istanbul; in reality, he had already decided to lead the Turkish resistance by setting up operations in Anatolia. Of course he was not alone in this desire. The remnants of the Ottoman army knew him as a genuine war hero and a proven commander. Millions of Turks were stunned and humiliated by the fate of their country and eager for a savior. But his resources were extremely meager. The few troops he had were poorly armed and trained. There was no money and almost no organization. But Mustafa Kemal was not only a very level headed and capable general, he now proved to be an absolutely brilliant tactician and organizer With little more than the Ottoman telegraph, a congress of like minded Turks was held at Erzurum and the "eastern Anatolia society for the defense of national rights" came into being. So meager were its resources that a retired major had to donate his life savings of 900 liras to organize the subsequent national congress in Sivas. Within four months, Mustafa Kemal had set up the rudiments of an independent Turkish state in Anatolia. On the 23rd of April 1920 the Grand National assembly convened in Ankara and elected him their leader. The meeting started on a Friday in the hajji Beyram mosque with a hoca leading the way, carrying a Quran (Mustafa Kemal was always crystal clear in his priorities; first there had to BE a Turkish state, THEN he would set about reforming it of what he considered medieval superstition). Mustafa Kemal had received a traditional education in the heavily Persianized and Arabized Ottoman Turkish and was capable of flowery oratory in the language he would soon make extinct. Having secured his position and legitimized his authority, he systematically played off the European powers against each other, reorganized the army and successfully stopped the Greeks at Inönü and Sakarya. Over three years, he slowly but steadily won back the rest of the Turkish heartland. It was touch and go most of the time. Not only was Turkey beset by powerful enemies and lacking in all the resources of a modern state, its people were mostly illiterate and the small elite was fractious and prone to emotional decisions. Atatürk had a rare combination of extreme self-confidence and solidly grounded realism. He won every battle that he fought because he was not prone to jumping into a fight he could not win. He compromised when he had no choice, but never on the essential aim of full independence for Turkey. Though never remotely impressed by communism, at one point he set up an official communist party (with himself as chairman) for the purpose of co-opting local communists and getting some desperately needed help from the soviets. He used irregular militias and local thugs when he had to, and then made sure they were disbanded or destroyed. In the course of the wars in Anatolia, there was tremendous destruction and many massacres of both Greek and Turkish civilians. Mustafa Kemal was never involved in any such action and made every effort to prevent such occurrences. In November 1922, having pushed the Greeks out of Anatolia, he turned his attention to the sultan in Istanbul. A meeting of the national assembly was held to get rid of the sultanate but not the caliphate; the sultan would remain khalifa of the Muslim ummah, but no longer be the temporal ruler of Turkey. The debate was dragging on with some clerics being less than convinced, at which point Mustafa Kemal told the committee: " Sovereignty and kingship are never decided by academic debate. They are seized by force. The Ottoman dynasty appropriated by force the govt. of the Turks…now the Turkish nation has effectively gained possession of its sovereignty ….this is an accomplished fact…if those assembled here see the matter in its natural light, we shall all agree. Otherwise, facts will still prevail, but some heads may roll". Thereupon a cleric said: "sorry, we had approached the matter from a different angle, now you have put us right". There was no further debate. The freedom and integrity of Turkey were finally secured in the treaty of Lausanne in 1923. Having won the war of independence from a position of incredible weakness, Mustafa Kemal now set about the task of force-marching Turkey into the 20th century. He went on tour, speaking to ordinary Turks and asking them to join him in bringing "civilization" to Turkey. At Bursa, he said the nation would put up statues to its heroes. The Islamic ban on human representation was no longer relevant. It had been directed against the worship of idols and it was an insult to imply that educated modern Muslims were capable of worshipping statues of stone. He even preached a Friday sermon in a mosque, saying that Islam was the perfect religion because it was in conformity with reason and truth. But mosques were not only places of worship; they should also be a venue for the discussion of secular affairs. Sermons should therefore be in Turkish and should reflect the requirements of the day. It is important to remember that Mustafa Kemal could not have succeeded in this radical program if the project did not already have many supporters among the Turkish elite. Defeat and humiliation at the hands of the West were a fact of life familiar to all Turks. There was no question of pretending that "we" were somehow better than the infidels; something was clearly wrong and something drastic had to be done to correct it. Several ideas of drastic reform had been in the air for decades. Some were based on pan-Islamism rather than the Turkish nationalism of Atatürk. But Islamic revivalism had not yet developed in the way it has today. Which is one reason why an outright pan-islamist like Iqbal could admire Atatürk. Atatürk himself was not an ignorant and insular army officer. He was well read and intelligent and aware of the larger issues of the world. But temperamentally and intellectually, he was not religious at all. He drank heavily and openly and made frequent disparaging remarks about traditional religion. He was influenced by positivism as a philosophy and adopted the Turkish nationalist ideas of Zia Gokalp, Ahmet Riza and others, as the guiding ideology of the state he was setting up. In this choice he was supported by a significant and dynamic section of Turkish society. In any case, no oil had yet been found in the middle east and the idea of looking to the Arabs as a source of inspiration would have appeared quiet ludicrous not only to Atatürk but also to his more conventionally religious friends like Ismet Inönü. On March 3rd 1924 the Grand National Assembly abolished the caliphate. At the same time, the old system of medressas was abolished and education was secularized. The ministry of sharaee law was also abolished. The proposals were presented to the assembly by a religious cleric with hardly a murmur of dissent. One member of the assembly proclaimed his hatred of the Ottomans by saying that even the bones of their dead should be dug up and scattered. Members of the clerical establishment not only failed to resist, they competed with each other in revolutionary fervor. One hoca rushed into Mustafa Kemal’s office crying: "Pasha, if it is your intention to do away with the holy book, say so and we will find a way to do it but please do not let the deputies talk the way they do"…presumably the deputies were being less than kind in the way they talked about the clerics. After the justice minister, Seyit (himself a cleric) had presented the bill abolishing the caliphate; Atatürk remarked that he had done his last duty. He was duly removed from his ministry three days later. A Turkish delegation went to India to thank the Indian Muslims for their support. The leader of the delegation informed Mustafa Kemal that the Indian Muslims wanted him to become the new caliph. Atatürk rejected the idea as ridiculous because: "A caliph was a head of state and foreign Muslims had their own governments and were in no position to implement the orders of a caliph residing outside their borders" The Kurds proved a tougher problem than the clerics. Mustafa Kemal subscribed to a Turkish nationalism, which regarded the Kurds as "mountain Turks". In his modern Turkey, they would all live as Turks and and that was end of it. The Kurds were a tribal people and had many internal divisions. Turkish army officers were used to treating them with a paternalistic policy of divide and rule. There was a rebellion in the Kurdish area and it was put down with great harshness. In this policy too, Atatürk had the full support of the Turkish ruling elite. He left the day-to-day management of affairs to his able deputy Ismet Inönü and took little interest in the "Kurdish problem". That problem continues to this day and the Turkish state has not yet been able to work out a generous and peaceful method of integrating the Kurds into Turkey. The reforming Ottoman, Mahmut the Second, had introduced the fez as a "new" headgear to replace traditional turbans. A hundred years later, Mustafa Kemal decided that the fez itself had become a symbol of medieval times. Addressing a crowd in the most conservative corner of Anatolia, Atatürk said: "Internationally accepted civilized dress suits us too. Shoes or boots on your feet, trousers on your legs, shirt collar and tie, waistcoat, jacket and to complete it all, headgear with a sun shield, which I want to call by its proper name, its called a hat". In a later speech, he said: "Gentlemen, it was necessary to abolish the fez, which sat on the heads of our nation as an emblem of ignorance, negligence, fanaticism and hatred of progress and civilization." He also spoke out against the veil: "Friends, our women have minds too…so teach them morals and then stop being selfish…let them show their face to the world and see it with their eyes…don’t be afraid..change is essential and we are prepared to sacrifice lives for its sake" Along with abolishing the fez and discouraging the veil (it was not abolished, but prohibited in official premises), Atatürk went after the dervishes and sheikhs. On 2nd September 1925, all dervish lodges were closed down. While senior clerics obeyed 1300 years of clerical tradition and maintained a prudent silence, some provincial khojas came out in open protest and were harshly dealt with. According to Mr Mango’s research a total of 20 people were hanged in connection with protests against the hat law. That’s 20 too many, but certainly not in the league of the millions who died to create the new utopias of Russia, China and Nazi Germany. A larger number have probably had their head cut off in Taleban led Afghanistan for crimes against a different kind of dress code. On the 2nd of December 1925, the assembly adopted the modern calendar (the Ottomans had introduced the solar calendar but dated it from the hijrah and failed to correct the dates in accordance with the Gregorian reform). A new civil code based on the Swiss model was adopted in 1926. A penal code based on the Italian model soon followed. These efforts are not much different from the earlier Japanese attempt to import western models wholesale in these matters. In most other Muslim countries, colonial occupiers carried out the corresponding change to modern penal and civil codes. Saudi Arabia being almost the only exception. The next and most drastic and far-reaching reform of them all was the reform of the language. In 1928, Mustafa Kemal set up a committee to look into reform of the script and language. The committee produced a proposal for reforming the script with a completely phonetic 29 letter modified Latin alphabet. They recommended that the change be phased in over 5 to 15 years. Atatürk overruled them with the remark that it will be done in 3 months or it will never be done. Time has proved him right. The change was drastic and took time to settle in, but by now it is clear that this is one reform that cannot be undone. One thousand years of Arabic and Persian influence has been cut off, but a modern Turkish language has developed which can hold its own in any application. No other reform did as much to reorient Turkey towards European civilization or had a more lasting impact. With his trusted lieutenant Ismet Inönü as prime minister, Atatürk became less and less involved in day-to-day affairs. He spent some time promoting racist theories of Turkish superiority but this never took the virulent forms that contemporary theories were taking in Germany. Drinking and carousing with friends took up more of his time and led to the cirrhosis of the liver that killed him in 1938. He was unimpressed with Nazism and gave refuge to many Jews escaping the holocaust. While Armenian and Greek extremists hate him because of his success in the Turkish war of independence (which dashed the hopes of Armenians and Greeks in mainland Anatolia), the charges of ethnic cleansing and bigotry are unfair. Once he had his Turkish state, he was not interested in new pan-turanian adventures and gladly made peace with all his neighbors. Small Greek, Armenian and Jewish minorities continue to live in Turkey and after the hatreds and massacres of the war years; they have always enjoyed equal rights. The Kurds may have more cause for complaint, as may the communists who were ruthlessly hunted down during the cold war years. A sclerotic and inflexible “kemalism” continues to hold sway in the Turkish army. But the real achievements of Mustafa Kemal’s Turkey should not be underestimated. Turkey is the 17th largest economy in the world. Istanbul is the largest city in Europe. A modern Turkish middle class outnumbers the entire population of some European countries. Democracy continues to be shadowed by the rigidly kemalist army, but is more real than any that exists in the Middle East. Turkey has a higher percentage of university graduates than any other Muslim county. One of these days, Orhan Pamuk will win the Nobel Prize for literature, and it will be for literature written in Turkish, not in English or French. Atatürk's legacy is more secure than many people realize. Talking to a French writer, Mustafa Kemal asked: "Can one name a single nation that has not turned to the west in its quest for civilization?" The answer would naturally depend on what one regards as civilization. But Atatürk was never interested in splitting hairs on this matter. He wanted to make Turkey into a modern, dynamic European country because modern, dynamic, European countries were clearly capable of humiliating and colonizing the rest of the world. Those who condemn him in Kabul or Teheran have yet to show that they can do better. Those who laugh at his presumptions in post-modern universities and cafés are unwilling to forego the benefits of the very civilization that Mustafa Kemal thought his country could join. Has his project succeeded? To quote what zhou en lai said about another famous revolution, "it is too soon to tell". Mustafa Kemal married once in 1923 and divorced his wife in 1925. He used the peremptory and drastic method of divorce granted to him by the Ottoman Islamic culture he was about to destroy. He had several affairs and has been accused of immoral activities with some young ladies he adopted as his daughters. Mr Mango tells all that is documented and recorded about these matters, but is clearly uninterested in scandalous gossip. Atatürk aroused a very passionate hatred in certain Greek and Armenian extremists; more recently, he is also a favorite target of Islamic radicals. These enemies have assured that such scandals have had wide circulation, but they have undermined their own credibility by their exaggerations and willingness to believe the wildest possible stories. Still, there is little doubt that Atatürk was an old-fashioned male chauvinist in his personal life. He may also have been looser in his morals than his admirers want to admit, but the scandalous picture painted in "gray wolf" and other such books is definitely unfair and exaggerated. Mr Mango was born in Istanbul and used to be the BBC’s director for Turkey and the Near East. He has written several books and articles on Turkey and is a sympathetic and fair observer. He clearly regards the kemalist project’s equation of Europe and progress as understandable even if it is not as simple as Atatürk sometimes liked to portray it. His book is a very thorough and balanced, but entirely conventional account of Atatürk and his times. It is easy to imagine someone writing a book on Atatürk that focuses on the drama and pathos of a life which involved (like the lives of all other "great men") episodes of falling out with old friends, the ordering of executions, the loneliness and sorrows of a young wife etc. or, someone could write about what goes on in the head of a man when he has such power and glory. Mr mango has not written those books. But he has written an authoritative and definitive biography of one of the most fascinating and important personalities of the last century. Book quote: "Atatürk’s message is that East and West can meet on the ground of universal secular values and mutual respect, that nationalism is compatible with peace, that human reason is the only true guide in life. It is an optimistic message and its validity will always be in doubt. But it is an ideal that commands respect."