nuune;965804 wrote: Rahima , thanks for educating some of our nomads, namely Haatu and Abbaas (whom I thought knows what he was saying). Abbaas even went as far as saying they are not MUSLIMS, that is a big statement to make, while we are sure the mentioned men ineysan hal salaad ah ka tagin and pray Jamaaca of every Salah. It is one thing on hating the group(we all hate them, including me and Rahima, and Ngonge), that doesnot deserve to issue statements on their beliefs and make them GAALO. Adba Haatu un baad ku waalatey. Quote one thing which I said which was wrong here? Car keen haddaan nin rag tahey.

Xaaji, we all know he's Somali. What we should debating is which sub-clan of cagadheer is he :D

The last one needs more explanation. Do you mean his ethnicity or his qabiil?

Rahima, the scholar's opinion on that is divided but most of them say they are still Muslims. But that said, they still deserve death for their crimes.

Rahima, you can't compare the Khawaarij to Hajjaj AUN. It's compulsory upon Muslims to wage Jihad on the Khawarij. They are mufsidiin and the ruling upon mufsidiin is execution.

These are the qurun that give Somalis a bad name. What's wrong with these people? Can they simply get an education, find decent jobs and live a quiet life?

Ina abti, you take the pi.ss ma istiri? Kulahaa we are making the necessary arrangement to ensure all small to medium sized businesses are supported. PS: LOL @your location. Isn't that an oxymoron of the finest quality?

Carafaat, what clans are fighting in Kismaayo? Isn't Fartaag the same clan as Hiiraale?

Alpha, Africa will go nowhere until it industrialises and starts producing things.

OdaySomali;965520 wrote: 1. They should get as much information out of him as possible. 2. Get him to make a video & radio appeal for Al-shabab to stop their attacks, put their arms down and to work with the government. If they (SFG) do this by making him a few false promises then so be it. 3. Lastly, they should tell him they have no further use for him and that they will kill him... unless he gives them any further information that he may have. 4. Put him on trial for the Somali people and the whole world to see. Essentially a PR stunt. The secret service should sign you up

Carafaat, the people of Jubbooyinka have no such hate for the Kenyans like the reer Xamar had for the Xabashis. These guys freed them from the tyranny from Al Shabaab and gave them the opportunity to form their own administration at their own pace.

This guy is pathetic. War go elsewhere with your oohin you pathetic loser.

You know weligay maan maqlin dad leh anaga ka caqli iyo talo fiican awoowyaasheen before you Xaaji. I thought the saying was rag waa raggii hore? As I said before, your forefathers believed in a lofty goal namely Soomaaliweyn. What betrayed them wasn't Soomaaliweyn but it was qabiil and a dictator. Don't blame people for things they didn't do.

If you don't know the answer to that then this whole discussion has been a waste of time. Goodbye.

Xaaji Xunjuf;965309 wrote: Somaliland leaders who made the union the vast majority of Somalilanders believe they were wrong the 1950s Politicians of Somaliland are ofcourse partly responsible because they could have safe guarded Somaliland interest, By not uniting with the Koonfurians but they choose not. First of July is a happy for the Koonfurians its their independence day. But for Somalilanders its a dark day, so the 2 stand and have different beliefs. I believe the Union caused the destruction had the Union never happened maybe total collapse of Somalia could have been avoided. Somaliland destruction in the late 80s could have been avoided. Xaaji you are a morally bankrupt individual who lives and breathes qabiil so I wan't try to reason with you. I can't believe you blame the massacres of a dictator on the Independence fathers. Ma uurkubaalle bay ahaayeen?

The top dogs should be made to pay and shot. Their execution won't prevent their footmen from deserting.

1da Luulyo was the time when Somalis put unity before qabiil, and Soomaaliweyn before petty self-interest. It was a time when the Somali people decided to pursue a different course, a better course. To stop the petty clan wars and work for the betterment of their people and land. The sad incident you are referring to Mr Wiil Cusub was a massacre and a war crime. It was a dark, dark event in Somali history that went against everything that 1da Luulyo stood for. It was an event where Somali might and wealth was used to try an eradicate a group of Somalis, totally against the ideals of 1da Luulyo. I understand you want to make a point but all you all you did was insult the great Somali Independence fathers and particularly the Northern leaders at the time by claiming their actions on 1da Luulyo were responsible for the war crimes carried out by Siyaad which was not the case.

Shoot him.

Let's see what the DF does. This is a litmus test for it.

This man should NOT be allowed to live. He's poison and should be executed in Xamar to send a message.

Is it all-out tribal war? A pitty. The Gedoans should be allowed Presidency if they covet it that much for the greater good.

What happened to Safferz? Is she currently in a hole underground in Jigjiga Jaajuusley?

^^I know one of the guys working there. Lucky man.

lol

Are you sure? What if I make a very sexist YouTube video that goes viral? Will my chances be improved then?