Arbe - hero as in the hero in a book Jilayaal - characters of a book.

Magoog - this means to create something from nothing from this word we get the term: Suugaan magoogasho - Imaginative Literature

If I go first, I posted these on the Cantarabaqash thread but I'll post them here again. Qofkahadal - Biography Iskahadal - Autobiography Qofkawarran - Curriculum Vitae Bayrsan - Personal Baahsan - Impersonal (but can have different meanings)

In my reading as of late I've come across a lot of Somali words that I don't hear in everyday speech. I therefore dedicate this thread to those such words. Please also share any rare Somali words you come across and the meanings.

Hey Alpha. I just learnt two new Somali words that I want to share. But before I do have a go: Say Biography and Curriculum Vitae in Af Soomaali Biography - Qofkahadal CV - Qofkawarran

I'm a believer in Islam not democracy and other 21st century nonsense. Slavery is technically halal in Islam but there's a lot of incentives in Islam that discourage it. The scholars mention a few reasons why it wasn't banned outright but this is not a subject that I know much about. The caliphs attacked neighbours so that the word of Allah may be upmost.

Maaddeey;971707 wrote: Malaaq Showri: Tarzan waa waalanyahay!. And that is your oday? Kulaha Turkigana dhib weyn ayey ku haayaan Xamar! Walle jisaar anarchist ah iga dheh. No wonder Xamar doesn't have peace with elders like him.

Just a few points. If someone wants to come up with a claim (i.e. this verse has been abrogated), he has to come with a reliable proof also. The Taliban are khawrij (one of the 72 sects of the hell fire) also called the Kallaabun-Naar (dogs of the hell fire) and the 'state' they founded in Afghanistan cannot be considered an Islamic state. No modern nation in this world truly rules by the shariica as the rightly guided Caliphs did. However, the closest state is Saudi Arabia which at least implements the shariah as it's law.

MoonLight1;970902 wrote: I hope your not putting Hajaj bin yousif and Qadafi in the same league, if you read Hajja's history he was certainly an oppressor and a killer, but at the same time he was doing good things including diffending the state from enemies and he run sharia on the land, but Qadafi was on his own league when it comes to ridiculing Islam and blasphemy, just go to youtube and dig some of his sermons you'll be gob smacked. And what is your solution to these dictators? just wait and see? that is not how you change things, you have to work for it and sometimes pay a heavy price for it and that is what the people of Egypt, Libya and Syria did, bury in mind their protests started peacefully asking for political reform, but these dictators sent their ruthless dogs of army and police and did what they did. and by the way, are you on Salafia jadiida? I completely forgot about this. Brother are you serious? We're talking about Hajjaj the tyrant who shelled Makkah damaging the Kacbah in the process, the man who crucified one of the companions of the Prophet PBUH Abdullah ibn Zubair IN MAKKAH and organised the assassination of Abdullah ibn Umar the great companion and son of the Second Caliph Umar ibn Khatab s well as killing hundreds upon hundreds of other Muslims. Qaddafi is a kitten compared to him. As you were.

Most Somalis in the Somali Peninsular handle their legal cases through the Xeer system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeer

That land is probably the most sparsely populated (teelteel) out of all Somali lands. It is of course the newest addition only being conquered fully 1800s.

Sometimes this Monkey makes my blood boil.

Cambuulo iyo bun;971526 wrote: Haatu thats Awesome but your from Gaarisa tho, a small town with a population of 119 000 you cant compare it with Mogadishu or Hargeysa. Gaarisa's population is less than 3% of Xamar just to put things into perspective You can literally walk from corner to corner if you wanted to

Where I come from the average house price is £10,000-£20,000 alhamdulilah. These prices (both Xamar and Hargaysa) are beyond ridiculous. And I used to think we had it bad.

Xaaji Xunjuf;970978 wrote: But this is exactly how it went, whether one was a victim was irrelevant, there were always divisions no one can deny that telling the truth does not mean propaganda. Maybe there is a bit of generalization but they are only making a generalization on the political elites of Somalia not the actual people. All in all good film they should do another one but than with better quality. Xaaji, you remember how I used to be a Unionist and centralist? Well I have come a long way. I believe that Somalis made a fatal error in 1960 by ignoring the way their society was structured. How could they expect people that lived in semi-independent tribal fiefdoms to form a unitary sate just like that without any problems? PS: What's the song at the beginning they sing. I've heard it before but don't know it.

May Allah protect all Somalis from the fitnah of Walaalaha Galgaduud. Somalia oo dhan bay qaseen

Hobbesian_Brute;971073 wrote: what a thuggish lifestyle and they wonder why people hate and mistrust them. soon the whole world will be on one side against this enemies of humanity.] They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.

Oiler;971023 wrote: 1. Did your time in Somaliland make you become tribalist, do you root for your sub-clan in politics? 2. What kind of work do you do in Somaliland? 3. Any plans of going back to London or you settling in Somaliland for good? I know this wasn't directed at me but this is a man who didn't even know his tribe before he left Heathrow. He was informed last minute at the gate, and now...

Who even says haa hey when you can say koow?

MM, and Rome wasn't built in a day. Besides, they got a lot of money from the peoples they subdued. P/land is getting there and developing with it's own money.

Safferz;970915 wrote: Haatu I inquired and was told Wardheer is not very safe to visit That, and the fact that everything and everyone I needed were in Dire/Jijiga/Degeh Bur made me less inclined to venture out that far. Are you from Wardheer, Haatu? Originally. And wow, I didn't know it was that bad. A complete no go area? That's a shame. Curse the injirley. Leave Apophis alone people. He has his reasons to be bitter but I don't know why he's making a fuss over ordinary pictures.

Salafia who? Anyways, I made my position clear and most certainly, fahuwa madhabee

Safferz, where's the photos of Wardheer and the Markabul hinterland? :mad:

MoonLight1;970880 wrote: Haatu do not misuse the prophet's (SAW) teachings, he was telling us, if our leaders withhold the fundamentals of Islam but fail on minor issues we should abbey them in the interest of peace and stability, but hey you can not apply that to these monsters such as Mubarak, Qadafi, Abideyn and Assad, these guys are in the league of Abi Jahal and Abi Lahab who were hell bent on keeping this ummah backward for ever, and if muslims just waited them to die and disappear their mini me's were on the wait to enslave us for another 40,50,and 60 years and after that it was their time to pass it to their sons and the legacy would've kept going on and on and on for God knows how long. I say good riddance of these monsters, but all revolutions has setbacks and problems, just read the history of the French revolution and the American civil war, then look at their outcome today. How can you put Men that openly claim to be Muslims (Qadafi etc.) on the same level as open enemies of Allah and his religion (Abu Lahab)? Don't let your anger fall you into sin sxb. As for the point you made, have you read up on the rule of Hajjaaj the tyrant? Look it up and see the views of the scholars towards him. Another example in history for you is the story of Ahmed bin Hanbal (the imam of the Hambali madhab and a great scholar). During his time the rulers were persecuting and torturing people for refusing to believe the qur'an was created. The imam himself was tortured along with many Muslims and this continued for many years. At many times people came to him seeking his permission to rebel and you know what he said to them even though Muslims are being persecuted for their beliefs in a Muslim state? He commanded them to hear and obey. Now compare this to the Muslim rulers of today who only want to continue to rule and don't punish the people of their beliefs: Abul-Hârith Ahmad b. Muhammad Al-Sâ`igh, the close and respected friend of Imâm Ahmad, reports: I asked Abû ‘Abdillâh (Imâm Ahmad) about something that had occurred in Baghdâd, and [because of which] some people were considering revolting [against the ruler]. I said, “O Abû ‘Abdillâh, what do you say about taking part in the revolt with these people?” He decried it and started saying, “Subhânallâh! The blood [of the people], the blood [of the people]! I do not believe in this and I do not tell others to do it. For us to suffer our situation in patience is better than the fitnah (tribulation) in which blood is spilt, property is taken, and the prohibited are violated (e.g. the honor of women). Do you not know what happened to the people (in the days of the previous fitnah)?” I said, “And the people today, Abû ‘Abdillâh, are they not in fitnah [because of the ruler]?” He replied, “If so, it is a limited fitnah, but if the sword is raised, the fitnah will engulf everything and there will be no way to escape. To suffer patiently this [current difficulty], where Allâh keeps your religion safe for you is better for you.” I saw him decry revolting against the leaders, and say, “[Do not spill the people's] blood. I do not believe in this and I do not command it.” Abû Bakr Al-Khallâl, Al-Sunnah article 89. And what is a Muslim to do when Allah tests him with a bad ruler? It is reported that Al-Hasan Al-Basrî – Allâh have mercy on him – said: If people called on Allâh when put to trial because of their rulers, Allâh would relieve their suffering; but instead they resorted to the sword, so they were left to it. And not one day of good did they bring. Then he recited (Quran 7: 137): And the good word of your Lord was fulfilled for the Children of Israel, for the patience and perseverance they had, and We destroyed the works of Pharaoh and his people and what they had erected. Ibn Abî Hâtim, Al-Tafsîr no. 8897. So you see sxb, I am not misusing the words of our Prophet SCW but rather I only show to you how they were understood and acted upon by the great scholars of Islam and the Rightly Guided Predecessors. As for you the bit about "minor issues", compare what the ruler did in the time of Imam Ahmad to what you accuse of our current leaders. I leave you with the words of our prophet SCW: Hudaifah (RA) reported, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "There will come leaders who will not follow my guidance nor my Sunnah. There will be amongst them men, who will have hearts of devils and the bodies of humans" Hudaifah asked, "What shall I do O Messenger of Allah, if I reach that?" He replied: "You should hear and obey the ruler, even if he flogs your back and takes your wealth. Then still hear and obey" [Muslim 1847] -------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: I am not asking for the tyrants/bad rulers back. Allah has removed their hardship from the Muslims. I am only clarifying what the position of a Muslim should be towards his [Muslim] ruler.

Abuufis, are you in Kenya now? How was hot Dammaam?