Hobbesian_Brute;978544 wrote: you couldn't said it more wrongly, women don't work among somalis, the few who work are pushed to work by circumstances like death of breadwinner husband, calamity and other extreme measures. my own sisters were denied work by their father who said women have no business mingling with men. don't comment for the sake. Alla yaa iska hadley. There is no civil war where I come from and no other calamities. Yet the women are very visible in the job market. Nut what would a missionary with rudimentary Somali know about the Horn?

Safferz;978530 wrote: He said he wants to study Somaliland :mad: The disease has reached every corner. Just talking about it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth :mad:

Marksman;978497 wrote: Really Haatu? How many women work at Dahabshiil for instance? How many women are district officers in Mogadishu? How come the quota of women in the government wasn't reached? How come women are more illiterate than men in Somalia? Etc. etc. There are more women in Somalia than men. Women are held back there. The poorest and most backward of nations are always those that keep their women from reaching their potential. With this said, Somalia is making great strides in giving women a fair chance. Much more is to be done and this will make the recovery of Somalia even faster. I can only speak for my hometown and there a lot of the restaurants, cafes. shops, kiosks etc. are run by women not just staffed by them. Also, a lot of them work for the local government in many fields (for example a relative of mine is the Deputy Healthcare director for the district). As for why women are more illeterate than men, that's educational inequality, not employment. And the simple answer is most families can't afford the fees to send all their kids to school so the eldest son is given the education as the son "won't just get married and become a housewife" but will be more likely to support the family (in practice it's actually the other way round). That can be dealt with by making education free.

Only Yoniz got it right. Naxar and Che try again. What are you looking at? Where is it?

Mad_Mullah;978501 wrote: Last time I checked Wardheer was in OG-land or are you one of the smaller parasites that have been used as cannon fodder against the ONLF? War I'm from the reer that OWNS wardeer so keep quite

Just the first example is wrong. I'll explain from the little I know, Where is Allah? Allah is above his throne and above his creation: Ar-Rahmaanu calal carsh-is-tawaa The most beneficent rose above his throne. When the Qur'an mentions Allah is everywhere or near, it means bicilmihi or with his all-encompassing knowledge.

Wadani;978045 wrote: Just because Islam is the divine truth does not make it a panacea for all of societies problems, because though the religion is perfect the people are not. Let's say we have a leader who tries to rally and unite Somalis under Islam, how will that all of a sudden bury the hostility and animosity between the various clans? People only respond to two things, fear and interests. Somalis need to either be forced into submission by a iron fisted strongman (his being secular or religious being a non issue), or have a just leader who can appeal to their interests by offering each clan and region their fair share of the political and economic pie. The root cause of our predicament is economic in nature, because it's nothing more than a myriad of clans fighting over finite resources. Look at the Arabs...they've only recently evolved past tribal blood fueds after the discovery of oil and the subsequent explosion of wealth in the region. Islam is the truth, but however potent it's appeal humans are not spritual enough on a collective level to let it reign in their avaricious and selfish nature, which forms the basis for Somali clannism. This is poorly written sxb. You should amend it. If I didn't know better I would think you were another self hating athiest wannabe going by this.

Hobbesian_Brute;978440 wrote: KL 5'aad is full of Mad Mullahs, irrational, petty and dumb man childs, eritreans are mature, adults when compared to the infantile somalis. we shouldn't even compare, its day and night Hobbesian we call them galti where I come from. This is what galti means: foreigner; barbarian; country bumpkin, hick, ignorant person from the interior

Does anyone else see what's wrong with this picture: This is what happens when you give power to waxmagarato.

I don't understand how these guys claim women suffer from unequal unemployment. At least 50% of the women I know back home do some sort of work to support their families.

Apophis, how's business going? Are you a tycoon yet? (I saw your brother the other day, he told me). Alpha abti, what is this khuraafaad by the name of oiler that has joined this place?

xiinfaniin;978345 wrote: How naive to think Northern clans solved their problems in light of Laascaanood, and Buuhoodle realities War I'm talking about the Landers.

Wadani;978314 wrote: loooool @ Alpha. But seriously, are wadaads bigger womenizers than the average faarax? What do u think Saffs? You know there's a funny story I heard recently. There's a local sheikh who teaches women the qur'an. One day a revert, white Croatian lady came to him asking him if he could search a husband for her (some people prefer to use wadaad-matchmaking services). He said he would and she left. A month or so later she returned asking for updates. He said: "naa wax ku guursado waan soo waaye, dhib malaha anaa ku guursan" Kulahaa wax ku guursado ma jiraan in a city teeming with bachelors He married her shortly thereafter.

Alpha Blondy;978334 wrote: ninka wa a jack of all trades but the master of none, ma garatay? sort of reminds me of Del Boy from Only Fools and Horses.........cross-contaminated with a Sangub, before the allegations. :p i also seem to recall the time.................he delivered a baby Zebra by c-section near Beeraha Jamame, using only a ph-neutral Dettol hand sanitiser. caajiib. :D

Oiler;978251 wrote: He/She always seems to type with authority - Self-righteousness is not cool trait bredrens. Are you talking about me? Safferz, yes they have all those little niceties known as "religious freedom" and whatnot, but at the end of the day they can do anything as long as they can get it through parliament. Khayr, no is distancing themselves. I'm just saying it was a matter of time.

malistar2012;978248 wrote: How many reconciliation do we need , We sat down from 2000 to 2013 and established Parliament consist of all tribes , The Law maker where select by the Traditional elders .A Constitution was agreed upon and etc . are we gonna dissolve all that because rer Puntland did not get President and PM seat. Puntland admin was supporting SFG 100 % when they had President and Pm seat . Somalia is bigger then A subclan administration I'm not talking about dissolving the government, I'm talking about inviting odayaasha from the clans that committed atrocities in the 90s and their victims together in Xamar to smooth things out (all the problems have their roots in this sad scenario). Just like what the Northern clans did after they got rid of Siyaad's government there.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;978163 wrote: If dooro is offensive to some, so is shuun to others. Now that is a rude word

Safferz;978051 wrote: ^ It's not "their country," and no one is free to do whatever they want if it infringes on the rights of others (in this instance, freedom of religion). That's the law of the land. Nonsense. What about France? As long as they can get it through parliament, they can do whatever they like using their Human Rights BS.

^^Truth be told it's a tad bit bigger than a village sxb

Tarzan doqon sanaa. Why does he have to pick that moment to spew that nonsense? If he and his President are genuine about a united Somalia then they need to start real reconciliation, not bark like a mad dog in international conferences.

Pettiness. Faroole should be ashamed. He is only the head of a federal state and not a country so he shouldn't demand to be treated like one.

Waawaray. A lot of people seem to vent on about things they have no clue about. If anyone can claim dhulkaas maanta ay dad aysan lahayn muran gelinayaan, only the ones who conquered it from the Wardei can claim it. This doesn't mean only one clan lives there, no. Alpha, you claim to be Reer Berbera yet you don't know your poets. Inaar isku xishow. Carafaat, well haddii kale they will complain till eternity.

RedSea;978040 wrote: Hello brother Xiinfaniin. The idea of United Muslim states with Qur'an and Sunnah as their laws of governance appeals to me more than the concept of secular Somaliwayn. If we can get Somalis to unite around Islamic laws, then I'd support that as well. But as of today, I have hard time believing that secular Somali Government can effectively govern and do justice between Somali clans, only Islam is capable of that. I have no issue with unity, but it has to be genuine unity set upon Islam. I concur.

Alpha Blondy;978039 wrote: abti, these folks are not weak ee is deji, ma garatay? there folks are either playing a smart game or they've lost touch with reality. i'll say it's the latter. whose more populous than these folks, whose more able than these folks? these guys are the real waloweynta la sheego not the beastly sort that faataadhuugleeya these days. but their civility is their achelis heel. my taalo is fairly simple....ishaa iska rida ileen wa la wada cawaaranyahay eh. abti, the marxuum Shaati guduud (AUN) was a tough nut and didn't tolerate BS. he was a no nonsense sort of guy. he was feared by these thugs that roam his land maanta and the leeches from MOG. he didn't play nice with some folks because some folks don't understand nice. reer Baidoa must wake up because the status quo is unacceptable walahi. reer Baidoa sow diyaargarooba abtiyaal, ma garateen? because these placards are futile and quite frankly pitiful. you must take what's yours by right. niceties meelahaas oo kale kama shaqeeyan. RPGs iyo M16s would suffice. Cali Dhuux numero 2. Guubaabsiga naga jooji diraddiraaleyahow weynaaday

Bay isn't a Federal state yet, it is only a region. I believe only the states and pseudo-states were invited. They should hurry up and make a state for Bay, Bakool and Sh/Hoose if they want to be represented. Besides, this is all academic. Culusow was there to represent all Somalis.