Tallaabo wrote: Lol I didn't know the so-called Afro-Hashemites looked any different!! In Xaajiga's and Saalax's mind Afro-Hashemites look different

Xaaji Xunjuf;987877 wrote: As long as they speak Somali are Muslim and live in Somali they are Somali Much of the South was Gosha land the Somali bantus are indigenous ofcourse there were other bantus imported Sheikh Sharif could have had a Bantu grandmother some where down the line. Your mixing different things Xaaji. Somali nationality iyo Somali ethnicity kala saar. Also, who told you the South used to be Gosha land?

Saalax;987902 wrote: Somaliland and Somalia also have distinct culture and cuisines. Niiko, dhisow, walaqo, cambuulo, muufo etc is unknown in Somaliland. Firstly, most of the Somalis in the South like the ones in the North and West are nomads and have cultures that are almost identical barring a few regional differences. Secondly, part of these regional differences are the dances. For example, in the West they dance Dhaanto, in Waamo they dance diisow/saar, in the north Heelo and like that in all the other nomadic areas. Thirdly, niiko is from the bantu culture from the Somali bantus, not the Somalis. Muufo is an Arab food that has been introduced to the Somalis just like baasto, bariis etc. Cambuulo is a galley dish that I have seen eaten by every Somali I know. Some also have it with their rice for supper. It along with popcorn used to be eaten by the old generations when they were doing their "xus" and is part and parcel of the nomadic culture.

thefuturenow;987815 wrote: It's funny how Haatu is mocking the future kings of Somalia. Do you not understand how history works mate? Who are these kings you're talking about and what has history to do with them?

Tallaabo;987768 wrote: Haven't you seen the number of Somali atheists we have in this forum alone? And I knew few of them in real life. Well I was just explaining things. The guy and his father before him were the head missionaries in Somalia. When Somalia collapsed, they brought the whole qabiil to the west using their connections

Khadafi;987785 wrote: Ditoore, I dont know if you have ever been to Egypt but nobody forbids you to pray in the mosque, Though if your trying to get power, weather your an islamist, secular or communist whats certain that you will rot in some prison cell. If Sheikhs were the answer then Saudia Arabia would be answer right? The constitution of Saudia Arabia is as they say 100% based upon Sharia. And in anything over which you disagree - its ruling is [to be referred] to Allah . [say], "That is Allah , my Lord; upon Him I have relied, and to Him I turn back." 42:10 From an Islamic point of view, the Sheikhs ARE the answer.

Alpha Blondy;987728 wrote: we can infer from your statements that you do indeed worship whites. so far we've deduced the following.... 1. bantus are Africans. in other words, there appears to be an ingrained hierarchy of sorts in your fikir. thus, to put more flesh on the bone, as it were........the darker your person, the lower your position. thus....bantus were enslaved thereby meriting their enslavement, somaha? 2. you've accorded value to the following statement....... '' i have white friends that tell me we all look the same'' . why don't black friends tell you y'all look different? why don't somalis tell you y'all look different? but because ''your'' white friends tell you y'all look different, it must be true, miyaa? Ii wad sheekada sxb ii wad :cool:

Admin I have a question and a few suggestions. Your timely reply is expected, not requested (): Question 1. What does the green bars under the users name stand for and how do they increase. How is it some nomads who have been here for years, who have a lot of posts, a lot of rep power have less green bars than (without mentioning names) uppity upstarts who started contributing yesterday. Ma beel beel baa lagu baxshaa? Suggestion 1. Can you add a like button if that's not too difficult. I know you can rep a post if you like it but then only the poster will know you liked that post. By adding a like button (and having a tally of likes say under the users location) everyone will know. Suggestion 2. Can you make the results of polls open yacni show who voted for what option. I.e. Cadale, Alpha voted Yes etc. I would like to thank you in advance for your swift reply.

Allah will protect his mosque. They can't do anything to it. Just be patient. "Xaqun calaynaa nasrul mu'miniin" Ruum.

Look how big the Borena region has become. The Garre are being slowly pushed back on all fronts.

Xaaji Xunjuf;987736 wrote: No i dont support Scottish Independence I believe Scotland benefits and has allot of privileges with in the United Kingdom, the Scots would lose out allot of agricultural subsidies ,and than there is the currency issues, and the Union has served them well the past 3 centuries. As for Somaliland i believe Somaliland should remain neutral on this and should not support it nor be against it. Xaaji maba xishootid. Reer Somaliland haddaan gooni-isu-taag u jeceshahay, reer Scotlandna maxaad ugu diidi? Hal dhinac isugu bayr.

Building a vocational school is excellent. I'm surprised no one thought of it before. At Somaliland's low stage of development, I believe majority of their education budget should be aimed at vocational schools and not universities/traditional education. Tinkerers, mechanics and engineers are more needed right now. I remember how useful the Garissa poly-technical college was in bringing people out of poverty. Poor, illiterate women would come and they would be taught useful skills like using a sowing machine. They in turn would then set up shop in their homes or in the town centre if they can afford it and start earning money. No aid dependence and they can afford to send their children to school. I know women who started off that low and after hard work were able to buy farms, improve their houses and educate their kids. Vocational colleges are the way to go. Xirfadaha ha la barto.

Xaaji Xunjuf;987725 wrote: Kenyaatiga cid ka liidata ma jirto:D Kenyaatigu waa kumee?

Weligiinba af shisheeye ka daba orda.

Safferz;987718 wrote: Who is a Somali? To which Somalis does southern Somalia belong to? And has it not been in flux, historically? I edited my previous post to add that the irony of this discussion is that the Somali Bantu may very well have been in the parts of southern Somalia they are associated with longer than the Somali nomadic clans that lay claim to those territories. We know that some Somali Bantu have been there as early as the 10th century AD. Since when have Somalis 'owned' land, in the sense of the patrimoniality which claims ownership over territory? The colonial state was the first to impose that (with the exception of feudal Ethiopia, I suppose...), and you too are using a European gaze in thinking about property and rights-in-land. Nomadism has never used that logic. Finally, why is it so difficult to accept - recognizing their histories of enslavement and social exclusion - that the Somali Bantu are as much a part of Somalia as the northern pastoral nomads, or the coastal merchants and fishermen? Somalis are the ethnic group that reside in the Horn of Africa. They have lived there for thousands of years. The Somali bantu came to this land after the Somalis. The South belongs to the clans who settle there. Somalis own land in a shared-clan sense. Clan A has exclusive rights to this territory and Clan B doesn't. Hence the totality of all the clan lands make the Somali homeland. (In my opinion it is this approach that the Somali state should have been based upon, how we always knew it). "Northern Somalis" also live in the deep South. The Somali bantus are a part of Somalia today, but the issues they face will sadly never disappear as the differences are just too stark. Integration is impossible.

Alpha Blondy;987719 wrote: i assume whites top the pecking order in your world? saas miyaa? If truth be told I believe the Abraahiim are (lol at you thinking I worship the white man, UFF).

Cadale;987712 wrote: Horta i heard some of the Bantus in middle shabelle and lower shabelle are natives. warka maxaa ka jiro? That's nonsense sxb. The bantu expansion never reached the Somali territories. The link posted by Saalax has some inaccuracies. They posted Sh Shariif as a bantu for goodness sake! burahadeer;987714 wrote: @Haatu....my point is the Somali race is actually more diverse in looks than any otha black group, and in that case doing genetic testing won't be helpful.Yes some might get foreign dna & still look more Somali than others due to being Somali for centuries. Also to show you in the video that many of us can pass as white/indian etc. tell ya ladies luv me:D If truth be told, Somalis don't actually look that different from each other minus small differences in skin tone. I have white friends that tell me we all look the same

Alla Soomaali maxay useless tahaa, waxaana kow ka ah XX iyo xayntiisa.

Alpha Blondy;987710 wrote: nothing to share. lakinse halka ka sii wad your prejudice. Thanks for the encouragement.

Burahadheer, the ladies in the video look like normal Somalis I see everyday, in fact some of the sisters here are finer. But why are you giving me the impression that you're a very ugly man if they seem so beautiful they're not Somali beautiful to you?

Safferz;987703 wrote: So what does this mean then, Haatu? It's the implication of the terms home/homeland, what does it mean for a Somali Bantu to "go home"? The fact is that most Somalis consider the Somali Bantu to be outsiders within, of elsewhere. At what point does a group become 'of' southern Somalia? This is what I meant. You must've misunderstood. I am merely saying the poor sods where forcibly removed from their homes centuries ago. We should now do the humane thing and return them to their homes Southern Somalia belongs to Somalis. It can't belong to any other group because it is a land already owned.

Cadale;987694 wrote: Yeah man its really cheap as well right now,my old man bought 10 pieces of land in ceelasha biyaha for 25ks this summer. That is dirt cheap. Good soil too if the above pic is anything to go by.

Safferz;987695 wrote: The irony and lack of self-awareness of the descendants of nomadic pastoralists telling people to "go back" where they're originally from... Indigeneity and 'ancestral' land claims are not so stable and continuous in Africa, Somalis of all people should know this. No one told them to go home Safferz. The last part of your post is confusing. Bal elaborate.

^Very nice. It seems clever, rich folks will in the future live there and commute to Xamar.

Alpha Blondy;987687 wrote: ^ you have no idea of what you speak off. you're projecting. cala kuli xaal, you disgust me. why are you being rude and aggressive towards people who've done nothing to you? what's your problems with these folks? why are you hating them? it's rather sad that you continually spew pure hatred and xenophobic little tirades on these boards. seek help before you lose your mind. wa iga talo. You seem too emotionally invested in this conversation. Is there something you'd like to share with us?