Jacpher;910007 wrote: I don't know why people focus on these silly protestors. They are on the fringe, not the voice of the community. Why are the secessionists parading here with these protestors as if they were the highlight of the president's visit? What was that maahmaah that I used on the other thread that angered them so much? Nin...

Che -Guevara;909999 wrote: ^Given the opportunity, those 'menial workers' are the first to cut you down with machete. In a city that's 95% Somali? I don't think so. If they were to start killing Somalis then they are just signing their own death warrants. But I believe their numbers should be limited. Apo, what do they say about Passports and Gsa being Kenya?

suleeymaan;909990 wrote: These people have no shame. They call him a clannish president when they are outside in the cold championing a clan state. They are pathetic sxb.

Wadani;909995 wrote: Oo fufugu ilaa gaarisa ma so gaadheen? Waarya Haatu, hurdada ka kac intay goori goor tahay. Ha is waalin sxb. La'aantood yaa dharka inoo dhaqi? Yaa guryaha inoo dhisi? Yaa guryaha inoo xaaqi? They are useful to us, so we keep them safe

I didn't watch the video but according to Citizen and other Kenyan news outlets they're protesting against the insecurity. Che, I don't many will stay. One of the main candidates Gsa has reportedly told representatives of the Mkamba community that they can vote for Raila or whoever they want for president, but when it comes to Gsa Governor they have to vote for him if they want safety. There's around 4000 of them in Gsa, mainly doing menial work.

War it's because I know the problems in S/land are nowhere near as bad as they are in NFD when it comes to Somaliweyn. The problem you guys have are real grievances from the civil war which you share with most of the communities in Somalia. The rest of the problem has been manufactured by your leaders in order to separate two inseparable people: Waqooyi iyo Koonfur. The grievances from the civil war can be addressed and the propaganda can be reversed. But for us, we're under the yoke of colonialism since the 1800s. There's virtually no hope for us. Also, I'm just as critical if not more of Budhlayn and the lack of respect it and it's forumers shown for Somali unity. Che, stranger things most certainly do not happen

Wadani;909980 wrote: Oo ileen inta yar ee ugaaliga ah ee la idin siiyo ayaad ku qanacdeen. Adeer, hadii aad adigu Somaliwayn hunguri ugaga hadhay, waxa jira dad caddalad darro ay tirsanayaan iyo xasuuq loo gaystay uga hadhay. Wardee wa ku kaa. Durba aniga baad igu soo booday. War fikradeyda shaqsi ahaan iyo tan dadka aan ka soo jeedo kala saar. Haa, dadka gobolkeya iminka wey ku qanacsan yihiin Kiinya in kastoo eysan waxbo ka helin Nayroobi, haseyeeshee taas micnaheeda ma aho in ey indhoola yihiin. Dadka toogashadda iyo qaraxa Gsa ka wada dad cirka ka yimi ma ahaan. Waa lays wada yaqaanaa. Badanaa dadka waxey tuhunsan yihiin in farta Nayroobi eey eelaha ku jirto. Yes, you can call us sellouts and dad aan dhiig laheyn, but I would much rather this than live in constant fear a la Somali Galbeed style. I personally support Somaliweyn but the reality on the ground is different. If this region is to be freed, either a miracle happens and a Pan-Somalist party takes control of the Counties (Gsa, Wajeer and Mandheera Counties) or we are liberated by Somaliweyn. There's a greater chance of the latter happening. We have become tame and docile after 50 yrs of occupation and due to clever propaganda, reer Somalia have been painted with a dirty brush. But, should Somalia get its act together and real development starts to take place in J/land, ppl in NEP will see what they are missing out on and what their kin is enjoying. Maybe then the hot blooded warriors within us will reawaken. Che, ma ila aragtey. It's the first time on being on SOL that I've seen Somalis being blunt with each other. Even in SOL we've come a long way.

I'm afraid so. I heard he now has to use the little blue pill. He can't function naturally due to "stress and depression". The doctors say the only way he'll get better is going back to his roots. For Abtigiis this means back to Fitsum. The things old men will do for certain things eh

Xaaji Xunjuf;909942 wrote: It just came out of occupation 1991 its like you wining independence and than join the occupier again makes no sense Waa markaad isku darsami jirtey. Ma Soomaaliya baa hadda gumeyste ah?

Somaliland isn't occupied and won't lose anything by joining Somalia. so what's the problem?

I agree it's not much, but at least we have a few doctors, teachers and some electricity. The day Somalia matches that we're good to go

He is busy gathering stories for this year. I heard he is revisiting Fitsum, Sahal and his prostitute wife, Sh Bashiir and others to tell us how life is treating them Last I knew he was in Harar asking about a certain lady called Abyan

Carafaat, sure we don't get much from Kenya, but we do get a few schools, some electricity etc. It might not be a lot but hey, what can Somalia offer today? It's not hypocrisy. We would like to be part of Somaliweyn, but the time is not right yet for us. first we have to convince the Kenyans to give us a referendum but I can't see that happening with the leaders we've got. Qansax, you just elaborated my point.

Carafaat, it's because they believe in Qabiil, whereas those listening inside believe in Qaran.

Carafaat;909904 wrote: Loool@Kikuyu favourite butler. In all seriousnesd why does Haatu and co belief so much in Kenya? Rather fight for the indelpedence of NFD or Somaliweyn? Carafaat we're not as foolish as our kin across the border (Somali Galbeed). We've been there, done that and have achieved a big fat ZERO. Also, Somalia wasn't that interested in liberating us as they were in Somali Galbeed. So we then decided instead of living in constant fear and violence and achieve nothing, we'd rather live in peace and get whatever paltry sums Nairobi sends our way. Thanks to this sound logic, a lot of lives have been saved.

It appears I hit a nerve, and a raw one at that too. XX, take a deep breath and read what I said again. I agree with you, Somalia =/= Somaliweyn. So, by conceding for Somaliweyn instead of Somalia you save face. Capiche? Oodka, if the butler earns a better wage in Nairobi than in Mogadishu, than can you really blame him for his choice of employment? Wadani, I wouldn't mind joining Somalia today but the reality on the ground dictates otherwise. The Kenyans aren't willing to let go and the populace will only join once Somalia can offer the services they currently receive, no matter how small. As for Somaliland, economically today it is no better than Somalia. The S/land population won't suffer a drop in quality of life if they join Somalia unlike NEP. To put it simply, you guys are further up the road to Somaliweyn than us and will reach the destination sooner. That doesn't mean we're not coming, we're merely behind you. Capiche? The Caravan has been upgraded into a ferry and is waiting. :D

Somalinimo is the cultural, linguistic and ethnic connection with all other ethnic Somalis or groups now considered to be Somali. Somali wadannimo comes in two forms, the one that is exclusive to the Somali Republic and love for this land which is virtually non-existent today or on life support, and the one that Somalis of all areas aspire/used to aspire to: Somaliweyn. Somalinimo and Wadannimo co-exist in Somaliweyn. So basically, Somalinimo is cultural whereas wadannimo is political. Put the two together and you get Somaliweyn. Simple.

Jacaylbaro;909632 wrote: ... and they are not that important now :D

It looks like a school. Very nice though. I love the ottoman style mosque.

Nin daad qaadey xumbo cuskay It's not too late to join the Somaliweyn ferry boys. That way you could save some face and say you conceded for Somaliweyn not for the South :D

Some people are just screaming to be noticed

Carafaat;909349 wrote: All is going great. Few more months and there will be a definet settlement. I heard there will be one passport, one currency and one foreign policy. This is what you should stick with. Forget that rubbish Cushitism

The clever man who can't afford Muqdisho goes to Afgooye. When the city's economy begins to pick up, majority of the low-paid workers won't be able to afford Xamar's rent, so where will they go?

What business do I have with Afars and Oromos? My people are divided and all over the place. Uniting them is my only goal.

Xiin, whatever the President's personal opinions may be, he understands that majority of his citizens want Federalism and that Federalism is the only hope of unity we have now. It is evident to everyone that there is no trust between the clans for us to adopt a unitary system anytime soon. The President understands all of this and has acted maturely (case in point his reversal in the Jubbooyin issue). It is unfair to keep digging at him for being against Federalism after this.