i think more people should be banned.

Originally posted by Mj. bada Cas: Paragon, Ilma boodyo gaab (Xabashida) in ay noo iman doonaan ma warbaa katagaan...lakin waanu Jabin doona Insha Allah. lool Waan gartay, laakin Insha Allah it won't get to that point let us hope. Waryaa, mr. Me, hadalada jil jilicsan igala wareeg yaakhii....anigu miskiinkaa Minnesta bookiisa iyo shaqadiisa yar eryanaya ayaan ahee mawaqtibaan uhayaaba waxaas aad sheegtay. Somali kala war la'. Maxaad jabini, hubka iyo cidankiinaba waxaa lagu tababara ethiopia. if ethiopia wants to give somaliland to tfg and yeey, they will.

what happen to the planned reconciliation? isn't he the same baffoon that was overheard making racial slurs toward pacticular clans of mogadishu?

you forgot to post the pic where they are holding meles's picture. the proof is even more glaring that this incompotent group are puppets.

They have been exposed. 2 months ago a chap named DK was boasting about how mogadishu would be safe in couple of months. things are falling apart for the crew.

Dagaal culus oo ka socda agagaarka isgoyska Fagax iyo hotel Lafweyn ee waqooyiga magaalada Muqdisho. Posted to the Web Apr 11, 11:11 Muqdisho:-Dagaalkii saaka ka qarxay deegaanada Juungal iyo Ramadaan ayaa ku soo fiday goobo hor leh oo ku dhaw xaafadahaasi ayadoo lagu soo warramayo in ciidamada DF lagaga itaal roonaaday dagaalkii saaka halkaasi ka qarxay, waxa uuna haatan dagaalka ka socda hareeraha isgoyska fagax iyo hotelka Lafweyn ee magaalada Muqdisho. Dib u soo cusboonaashada dagaalada ayaa timid kadib muddo 10 maalmood ah oo magaalada ay ka dhaqan gashay xabad joojin caga adag aan ku taagneyn oo u dhaxeysay ciidamada Ethiopia iyo odayaasha beelaha ****** ayadoo dib u dhac uu ku yimid kulamo lagu waday in uu dhex maro labada dhinac. Dagaalka oo saaka ku bilowday si goos goos ah ayaa barqanimadii maanta xoogeystay, waxaana la xaqiijiyay in ciidamada DF ay ka soo baxeen hotelka Kaah oo horey u joogeen, waxa ayna usoo gurteen dhinaca isgoyska Fagax iyo agagaarka hotelka Lafweyn inkastoo warar aan la xaqiijin ay sheegayaan in xitaa isgoyska Fagax ay ka baxeen isla markaana laga qabsaday gaari Zuu ah. Sidoo kale dagaal aan sidaa u xoog badneyn ayaa ka socda deegaanka Jamhuuriya halkaasoo ay isku hor fadhiyeen ciidamada DF iyo kooxaha kacdoonka, hayeeshee dagaalka Jamhuuriya ayaa ka qafiifsan dagaalka ka socda agagaarka hotelka Lafweyn iyo isgoyska Fagax. Ciidamada Ethiopia iyo kuwa DF ayaa bilaabay in madaafiicda BM-ka ay ka soo tuuraan xarunta Villa Soomaaliya ayadoo dhawr madfac ay ku soo dhacday xaafadaha Juungal iyo Ramadaan oo dagaalka qaraar uu maanta ka dhacay, lamana garanayo khasaaraha uu gaystay dagaalka saaka ka socda magaalada Muqdisho. Dagaalada ka soo cusboonaaday qeybo ka mid ah magaalada Muqdisho ayaa waxaa laga cabsi qabaa in uu isku badalo dagaal toos ah oo dhex mara ciidamada Ethiopia iyo kooxaha ka soo horjeeda kaasoo haddii uu dhaco sababi kara sidii kii hore dhimasho,dhaawac iyo barakac baahsan oo soo food saara dadka rayidka ah. C/qaadir Osman Halgan.net

if u were watching aljazeera, it showed fighting happening inside the hotel before they took it over.

hotel kaah

Muqdisho 11 Abriil 07 (Beerdhiga ) Abaarihii 7:00 aroornimo ayaa ciidamada DFKM ay weerar ku soo qaadeen fariisimo ay leeyihiin xoogaga muqaawamada agagaarka Hotel Ramadan. Dagaalku hada waa qaboobay waxaana mararka qaar la maqlayaa rasaas goos goos ah oo u badan is toogasho labada dhinac ah. Ilo ku dhow dhow xoogaga muqaawamada ayaa Beerdhiga u xaqiijiyey in muqaawamadu ay la wareegeen gacan ku heynta Hotel Kaah iyo daafahiisa ka dib markii ay jabiyeen ciidamadii weerarka soo qaaday oo iyagu markii hore gacanta ku haayey agagaarka Hotel Kaah; Ilaa iyo hada lama oga khasaaraha gaaray ciidamada DFKM laakiin waxaa la sheegayaa dhaawacyo badan oo ka tirsan ciidamada DFKM oo la dhigay isbitaalka Keysaneey halka muqaawamada uu ka shahiiday 1 qof halka 4 kalana ay ka dhaawacmeen. Dagaalkan wuxuu ku soo beegmaya xilli mar kale dib u dhac ku yimid kulankii xabad joojinta ee u dhexeeyey odoyaasha Beelaha ****** iyo saraakiisha ciidamada Itoobiya. Weerarkan oo diyaar garowgiisii xalay la ogaa wuxuu daba socday mid shalay ay soo qaadeen isla ciidamada saaka weerarka soo qaaday; waxayna arrintan la xiriirtaa abaabulo dagaal oo uu beeshiisa ka dhex waday wasiirka ku xigeenka wasaarada gaashaandhiga Salaad Cali Jeelle oo horey u sheegay in uu beeshiisa ka rabo ciidan laga horgeeyo xoogaga muqaawamadu oo uu tilmaamay in ay beel yihiin.

They were trying to stop a large tribal meeting scheduled for tomorrow. they briefly held ramadan hotel before being over run and loosing it and kaah hotel.

He is the same fool who killed tens of D&M clan militias in baidoa airport before walking over their bodies to travel to nairobi. and then ranway and went into hiding. another blood thirsty venom added to the long list of blood suckers.

The question wasn't directed at you. let them answer for himself.

Originally posted by Samurai Warrior: Gavin – do not be hoodwinked by the constant hostile and far-fetched wishful desires of the Fish and Chips generation stranded in the cold in North America and Western Europe. Majority of Somalis in Somalia [sic], and this is by extension a generalised estimate on my part would prefer a Federal system of governance very close to that of the US which extends autonomy to the district level: the model from which the current TFG has been moulded with its warps and all. Panacea not, but wholly not egregious! From the onset, war-weary Somalis in Mogadishu and its environs embraced the ICU purely for the purported ideals and presumed virtues possible Islamic governance would encompass and only celebrated in the good book – the Qur’an. With all the promises and the supposed therapeutic alleviations that Islamic governance would bring along evaporated shortly after the rise of the ICU, for the general public rapidly came to the realisation the ICU leadership could hardly meet what a modern nation state would require with signs of their shortcomings surfacing a couple of months of their being on the throne. The case was not that different with the Taliban or elsewhere. However, the experience was slightly different elsewhere in the country, and a classic example of that would be Puntland and Somaliland both of which institutionalized a sort of federal model of governance at different levels and with different results, and whilst the judiciary circuits in both administrations adhere to some form of Islamic Shari’a, neither desires to effect the strict format of the Shari’a law, for they could hardly deliver on such premise albeit the desired object to Sparta’s gates was just that. At will, both administrations embarked on a model of governance which was deemed suitable to their way of life. The primary reason that Islamic governance would fit not Somalia, or any other Muslim nation at the moment including Saudi Arabia, is purely due to the fact that Somalis alike their counterparts elsewhere in the Muslim world lack a principal ingredient required in implementing Islamic Shari’a as the core mechanism of holistic governance in all aspects of modern nation state - human capital. Attempts to effect the said had been made elsewhere, and unfortunately failed miserably with the results being exploitation of Shari’a law to the extent of degrading it to a shameful glimpse of itself, what it is meant to be, or designed to perform, thusly giving it a bad name. It is the fantasy of idealism of what an Islamic state would bring along that which appeals to most people herein and elsewhere, however their knowledge of Islam in itself as a way of life is so dismal it lends itself to caricature ignorance, if not the unfortunate state of their being born into it. Query along should your heart desires; not only astonished shall you arise, but despair shall descend at once! Ask about Islam, you shall find them devouring Wikipedia as their sole source of reference (O’ dear!). Suggest for some to live in any Muslim country, flooded you shall be with complaints, if not chorus of disapproval of their being rigid and crude. I shall leave there, Tata… Are you a muslim or not?

Originally posted by Caano Geel: Gavin: Its difficult to define what a 'western style' government is, 'western style' governments vary as much as the cultures they are from. Most of us want a fair system that empowers its people and takes responsibility for its actions - but in reality, (i think) that the correlation between the extent to which a government provides that and its political philosophy is murky, and depends much more on the social norms and the power balance within the culture. So most of us support and want ideals like democracy, but we want it our way, to support our ideals and values, not wholesale imported. wrt to anarcho-capitalism isnt it another fancy word for market optimisation? and doesnt that implicitly contradict the basic function of society - i.e. looking out for the parts that make up the sum? ansaar17: So who will rule this islamic nation of yours? I think the reason why we nothing else but an islamic govt won't work is, somalians are made up of tribes who will not allow someone else from another tribe to rule over them. Yet, islam is the only thing able to come over that.

if you want a wild place where there is no rule and its "survival of the fittest" then it isn't somalia. we are muslims who follow what god has ordained. withouth law an order a society cannot funtion.

Israsaaseyn xoogan oo ka bilaabatay agagaarka xarunta Xisbiga ee magaalada Muqdisho. Muqdisho, Talaado, April 10, 2007 Simba Radio WAR DEG DEG AH Israsaaseyn xoogan ayaa daqiiqa ka hor si xowli ah ugu bilaabatay agagaarka xarunta Xisbiga iyo dhabarka dambe ee Stadium Muqdisho wadada Jeneraal Daa'uud. Labada dhinac ayaa is weydaarsanaya hubka noocyadiisa kala duwan gaar ahaan madaafiic xoogan, iyadoo madaafiicda qaarkood la sheegay inay ku dhaceen deegaano ay kamid tahay xaafada Toowfiiq ee magaalada Muqdisho. Daryanka Madafiicda labada dhinac ay isku adeegsanayaan ayaa laga maqlayaa qeybo badan oo magaalada Muqdisho ka tirsan, iyadoo ilaa iminka aan la xaqiijin karin qasaaraha ay madaafiicdaasi geysteen maadaam xiliga uu habeen yahay. Ciidamada Ethiopian-ka iyo kooxaha kasoo horjeeda ee toddobaadkii tagay ku dagaalamay magaalada Muqdisho ayaa wali is horfadhiyay, iyadoo habeenada qaar la maqlayay madaafiic goos goos ah iyo hubka noocyadiisa kala duwan oo ay isku ridayeen. Israsaaseyntaan caawa ka socota magaalada Muqdisho ayaa waxaa walaac xoogan ka muujinaya dadweynaha Muqdisho ku dhaqan oo ka haray intii magaalada ka qaxday, iyagoo maalmihi ugu dambeeyay farta wadnaha ku hayay oo ka cabsanayay in dagaal mar kale magaalada ku dhex maro ciidamada Ethiopian-ka iyo kooxaha aadka ugu soo horjeeda. Arintaan ayaa kusoo beegmeysa xili xabad joojin ay kala saxiixdeen odoyaasha beelaha ****** iyo saraakiisha ciidamada Ethiopian-ka, iyadoo kulan ay maanta yeelan lahaayeen uu baaqday kadi markii saraakiisha ciidamada Ethiopian-ka shuruud ku xireyn qabsoomida kulanka, waxeyna labada dhinac balameen maalinimada Axada inay mar kale dib iskugu yimaadaan. Waxii kusoo kordha Israsaaseyntaan caawa ka socota Muqdisho wararkeena ayaan sida ugu dhaqsiyaha badan idin kugu soo gudbin doonaa.

Muqdisho(AllPuntland)- Dagaalo xoogan ayaa caawa ka bilowday aagagii ay isku hor fadhiyeen ciidamada dowladda KMG iyo kuwa Itoobiya oo caawinaya Soomaaliya iyo kooxaha kale ee ka soo horjeeda iyadoo caawa magaalada Muqdisho laga maqlayo dhawaqa madaafiicda PM-ka loo yaqaan iyo rasaasta kale ee daran dooriga u dhaca. Dagaalkan ayaa yimid kadib markii *kooxaha ka soo horjeeda dowladda ay rasaas laga ridayey qoryaha fudud ay ku fureen fariisamaha ciidamada Itoobiya iyo kuwa dowladda oo ku sugan agagaarka Xamar Bile iyo garoonka ciyaaraha ee Muqdisho* iyadoo ciidamada Itoobiyana ay jawaab culus ka bixiyeen waxaana ilaa hada la maqlayaa dhawaqa madaafiicda. Dagaalkan oo ku soo beegmay xili maanta uu baaqday kulan lagu waday in ay isugu yimaadaan waxgarad kasoo jeeda kooxaha ka soo horjeeda dowladda iyo saraakiisha Itoobiya oo shuruud ku xeray kulankii maanta. Wixii ku soo kordha iyo khasaaraha dagaalkan geystay waxaan idiin kugu soo gudbin doonaan wararkeena danbe hadii Alle Idmo. Cali Muxiyaddiin Cali AllPuntland, Muqdisho

Posted to the Web Apr 10, 22:24 Muqdisho:-Dagaal qaraar ayaa ka bilaawday iyo Is rasaaseyn xooggan agagaarka xarunta Xisbiga iyo garoonka Stadiyo Muqdisho ilaa wada iskuulka Jen Daa,uud daryanka madaafiicda iyo Taangiyada Itoobiya ayaa si weyn looga maqlayaa dhamaan Xaafadaha ku dhow Xamar Bile ee Muqdisho. Dagaalka ayaan ilaa haatan la aqoon Sababta bilaawday iyada oo ay soctay waan waan labada dhinac waxaase galabta fashilmay kulan ay yeelan lahaayen Saraakiisha Ciidanka Itoobiya iyo Odayaal dhaqameedyo ka tirsan Beelaha ******. Wixii warar ah ee soo kordha kala soco Halgan.net

This is how the ethiopians will take over those regions by claiming to be intermidiaries. A.J.T. saxiib, your militias and theirs too are built on the weapons provided by ethiopia so open your eyes.

Right now somalia is under occupation by the west. I hope after the TFG is eliminated we can have an islamic govt.

He got owned

Originally posted by Ahmed_Guree: quote:Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: We fought and regained our independency before even those Tigree were on power ,,,, we were here even before the TNG and TFG and who else is on the way This is a matter of decision and national interest and Habashis have nothing to do with it ,,,,,, yes, they'll take the benefit but it is well-known who lead them to Mogadishu ..... at least they got some justification to be there and who did that for them ?? SADLY SOMALIS specially those who are the RELIGIOUS LEADERS ,,,,,,,, Dude there is no diference between Xabashi whether Tigray,Amara etc they all hate us to the core ...hence their system of apporach is sequential elimination it doesnt matter whether somaliland will be the last dhibi ion the end it will join its brothers in the yorks of oppression. I dont think by then your shouts to the international community will be recognised like what is happening in Mogadishu. You guys will be just treated as not even an insurgent but a crackdown on a demo. I have a feeling the day they get recognized will be the day the westerners see a unified somalia on the horizon.

please dont bring that argument again. the day they took control of mogadishu was the day the ethiopians concluded their "terrorism" training offered by U.S. forces. it was already bound to happen, what a person said wasn't gonna stop the inevitable. what do you mean "national interst"? what national interst? what exactly do you get from having ethiopian prostitutes in your capitol spreading aids? the ethiopians do much more than trade with somaliland, they send tons of khaad each month.

so how is the TFG offense anounced by Jelle a week ago going? he needs some of this after what he uttered.

these people are worried about just surviving even if it means living under ethiopia's feet. lets not forget our purpose for being on this earth.