Mj. Bada Cas; Sool and Sanaag wouldn't have been peaceful if the 'Hargeysawi' troops you speak really wanted to fight a war just to 'grap' the land of others. Somaliland has done great job in dealing with such issues and for the most part has been successful at that with exception of minor scuffles with Pland here and there, notably in 2004 and just past month. Sool and Sanaag aren't peaceful because of Somaliland or because Somaliland cares about maintaining peace in the region. Sool and Sanaag are peaceful because of its inhabitants, no regional administration can take credit for that. Naxar is the man addressed here, as I was saying to mr. caamir the other day. Those who are okay that Abdullahi Yusuf is doing a good job in Xamar, must not cry the job Riyale is doing in their areas. That's not much of an argument. You're comparing apples and oranges here. Abdullahi Yusuf hails from Puntland (which is a state within Somalia) and Mogadishu is the capital of Somalia. Somaliland is seeking recognition as an independent country and the citizens of SSC don't want to be apart of that country. How can you compare the two situations? It would have been one thing if you had said that Naxar and Caamir are against instability and violence in the regions they hail from, yet they support the TFG and are indifferent to the death and carnage that is occurring in Mogadishu, but this 'he can do it so we can do it too' argument doesn't work. Somaliland is the only now that hasn't brought destruction to the Somalis, Pland could be blamed for producing Abdullahi Yusuf. That made me laugh. So Somaliland hasn't brought any destruction to Somalis, eh? What about the SNM and the crimes they committed? Oh, I guess you're experiencing a moment of amnesia. I'll go hang my head in shame for 'producing' A/Y.. As for safety wise, adeer Puntland is more closer to southern Somalia therefore it's well known to everyone that is not as nearly safe as Somaliland. You're measuring safety based on Puntlands proximity to the 'violent' south?!? Loool As for development, Bosaso was pretty much built from scratch. Bari and most of Puntland was neglected by Bares' administration (Hargaysa wasn't) and all the development that has occurred in the city was post-91. Bosaso went from being a small coastal town to the business capital of Puntland..Its population swelled after the civil war and it now numbers in the hundreds of thousands. It is the success story of the civil war.

Like someone already mentioned, the 'white-sheet test' is useless..Having a torn hymen doesn't mean the gal isn't a virgin. Plus, if these women are worried about the reactions of their future partners maybe they shoulda just kept their legs crossed. :confused:

Alisomali; Yes, he was killer, but he was also a victim. Did he not kill himself? The fact that he had a psychological disorder is very important..It explains why he did what he did. This was a horrible tragedy and all the victims deserve to be remembered.

^ What's the point of complaining if you're not willing to change anything? If you don't like the articles posted, post articles reflecting your point-of-view.

^You don't the demons this young man had to live with. He was a victim as well.

No, it's time to look foward to a post-TFG Somalia.

Originally posted by Hunguri: quote:Originally posted by Mj. bada Cas: ^lol...mr. shoot and coward lool.. Adeer, who is the wiil? No one is doing the qaylo. I have no reason to, you folks like to cheer when other people's lands have been invaded, however when your little town is under threat. You scream, 'we are peace loving people' "iskaaya daaya, kaluunka aan iska dabanee'. Dhinicuun isu raaca. Mujahid-*********, I always knew that you would response and vomit like you did now. Let me say one thing here. Kalluunkan aad leedahay reer ayaa dabta. Kalluunku waa xirfad iyo hor-umar. Wax laysku caayana maaha. Waa shaqqo waana ganacsi, waana xadaarad.Hadaad markii waxyar la tuuraba aad qabiil iyo qabyaalad iyo qudhun tufaysid. Waxaad caddaysy inaad tahay politicaly,and *********** corrupted. By the way. I will not complain to the admin and SOL moderators, I will take your skin out of your body and will bombard you with my neuclear war-head missiles. Ciyaalkaagasoo kale waa aqaanaa meesha la qabto. ****** ******** ******** ******** PS:- Wax intaa ka badan ku odhan maayo. I wonder what Somalis have against fishers?! :confused: Ms D&D; Lol@ "There is no one who I disagree more than Duke and Violet but still I try to educate them rather than lose my cool"

You've made a total of 34 posts over the past 4 years, so you're in no position to complain. Either contribute to the forum or hush it!

Originally posted by Xoogsade: ^ Of course, the most loyal supporters of the TFG ON SOL hail from Puntland clanwise. Name anyone in the Politics section, in particular those who call plighted kids and women, the elderly who are the victims of Xabashi shelling "Looters" to justify their massacre. Come on are you seriously trying to use the forumers on SOL to backup your statement? You know the forumers on SOL are too small of a number for you to make a blanket generalization like that. Go to your local Dunkin Donuts and you'll see that Puntlanders aren't the only ones who are pro-TFG. Besides, there are forumers on SOL who hail from Puntland and who are extremely anti-TFG. What's my point? We all speak for ourselves and not our clans.

Originally posted by Lake: quote:Originally posted by Violet: Castro; There is/was nothing indiscriminate about the bombings. They purposely targeted certain areas of Xamar. Now that that is out of the way, I don't think they'll be condemning the bombings anytime soon. Doesn't she remind you off..... "They purposely targeted certain areas" was a gold lol You were watching a video on youtube and I was the first person you thought of? What can I say, I'm really flattered. That explains your meaningless one-liners and kindergarten antics, but sorry, I'm not interested. Take some time, get a towel, and wipe that egg off your face.

Xoogsade; The people of Puntland are sympathetic to the current plight of people of Xamar, afterall, many of them came back to their traditional regions after the war in 91. Some of the refugees from the current conflict in Xamar are in IDP camps in Puntland and Puntland has donated aid to the innocent victims in Xamar. This shows that they aren't indifferent to the plight of these innocent people, they are on their side. Castro; There is/was nothing indiscriminate about the bombings. They purposely targeted certain areas of Xamar. Now that that is out of the way, I don't think they'll be condemning the bombings anytime soon.

Originally posted by Xoogsade: ^ Violet, I see your point, the death of an elderly woman in Dahar is not comparable to the death of an elderly woman in Muqdisho. One is more valuable than the other. Sweet. Way to twist my words. The situations are not comparable because the war in Dhahar was that of a clan-war and the one in Xamar is that of a government(s) against insurgents. The citizens of Dhahar did all they could do to avert a war and to their luck the clash(s) didn’t escalate that much. Sadly, the citizens of Xamar went the opposite direction and they’re facing the consequences atm. I'm sure everything I just typed was in vain because it seems like you're hell-bent on labelling me a clan-supremacist. Moving on to your last question again, as I said earlier, the TFG supporters come only in one kind of somalis, those who put their clan interests above and beyond everything else. Pick a group of TFG supporters and you will see the validity of my point. They don't have to be necessarily from one particular clan Now that we've established that maybe you'll stop screaming Puntland whenever you come across a TFG supporter. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Castro: quote:Originally posted by Violet: Have the clan elders from Xamar commented on the situations in Dhahar? If so, I'd agree, otherwise... I'm not sure they had a chance to catch the news. You see, they had this little problem with Ethiopian tanks.... Everyone has their own priorities. These clan elders represent the people of Puntland, so you could see why they'd comment on one war and not the other.

Originally posted by Xoogsade: ^ I thought you were sympathetic to the plight of reer muqdisho few days ago. I see it didn't take long for you to get into reverse gear and be your little self again. Who said I wasn't sympathetic to their plight? Because I don't see things like you do? If anyone's sympathetic to their plight it's I, seeing though I've gone through a very similar experience, but I'm a Puntlander so I must be grinning at the death and displacement of innocent people, right? Oh, btw, about the elders, while they are busy with the war on their own backyard, they could spare a minute or two about Muqdisho as well, after all, an elder for one clan, is an elder to the other according to somali tradition. Have the clan elders from Xamar commented on the situations in Dhahar? If so, I'd agree, otherwise... Anyway, you should be on bed. too late for a young girl to be staying up and chatting politics. I'm old enough for you to label me a brain-washed clannish-bigot, but I'm not old enough to discuss politics? Sure. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Xoogsade: ^ Violet, it never fails and the TFG supporters come only in one kind, people with clan priorities at the expense of everyone else who is not related to them. Are you seriously trying to say all TFG supporters are Puntlanders? Perhaps You can explain why someone would Oppose violence against his/her own clansmen while they want other somalis, who are not related to them by clan, meet violent death in the hands of a well-funded xabashi army? And for what end? Are you referring to the Dhahar incident? If so, the two situations are in no way comparable. Get some fresh air, you're losing it. I was referring to people who harbour clan animosities towards Muqdisho residents. People who justify their death and call their victims looters. Again..That would be a clan, correct? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Socod_badne: quote:Originally posted by Nabadshe: If this Elders have in their conscience an Iota of Gobanimo and somali elderly Ethics they would have at least released some statements over the massacres taking place in Xamar. Xamar is not settled by their people, they are "others" and it's not their city. It's a view shared by most Somalis outside of Xamar. Which raises an interesting question: if the invasion of the capital doesn't compell Somalis to feel invaded and if the mass destruction and human loss visited on the city's residents doesn't compell Somalis to feel they have been attacked, what on earth is the point of building a Somali "government"? Who is it being built for? First off, these elders have other things to worry about..The world doesn't revolve around Xamar you know? They have a war in their own backyard. If Somalinimo ever existed we wouldn't be in the position we are in today. There wouldn't be refugees displaced around the world. Have you been sleeping under a rock for the past 2 decades? Originally posted by Xoogsade: ^ The answer is pointless. I would only make one exception, it is not everyone in Puntland who feels uninvaded, unhurt, and indifferent to what is going on in Muqdisho. There are muslims in every clan whose beliefs in God transcend clan connection to a warlord they are related to. Wow so now anyone against the clan-insurgency is not Muslim?! You're getting more creative by the minute. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Xoogsade: ^ ThePoint is telling you that the rape of somali women in Muqdisho, their massacre, the destruction of their homes, the dismemberment of their kids, their displacement, all done on behalf of A/Y whom he is related by blood are justified. Wherever you read "loot" on SOL, it means: "I am for all violence, death, destruction and displacement visited upon clans of Muqdisho who don't hail from Puntland. I am for the tigre army doing what I always wanted to do but couldn't, and out of bitterness I support them, out of hatred I come out and accuse the victims who are not related to me by blood to be "looters"". It is that simple. Why do you always use the same argument? Anyone Pro-TFG is related to A/Y and is from Puntland yadda-yadda-yadda? Come up with something else. I am for the tigre army doing what I always wanted to do but couldn't I wonder what that means..Are you perhaps referring to a qabil? :rolleyes: Just let it all out.

Originally posted by Sky: Ms Dhuchduc & Dheylo My conscience tells me to condemn the whole TFG altogether of course. But the socalled 'resistance' camp have displayed more often than not, that their war is a war against a certain clan and not necessarily the Ethiopians. I feel the same way, but condemning the TFG doesn't mean you support the 'resistance'..the 'resistance' can go to hell for all I care. I say we should let them finish each other off..I don't give a damn anymore. May the team with the biggest guns win.

A lot of the girls are underage. I've seen many innocent pictures of girls that go to my local high-school and even though the pictures are innocent, people write the most horrible comments. The rumors are the worst.

Originally posted by Kreepy Kid: My point is live and let live There are worse things happening in the world then someones sexual preference. And besides only Allah can judge humanity come judgement day. You took the words right out of my mouth. Alisomali; Don't air the mans business..leave him alone.

Originally posted by Mj. bada Cas: lol...okay. Who was that adeero that got sacked by the way? Or were you just being sarcastic? No. My adeer(Jama A. Jama) did get sacked, but that's not why I don't support the TFG anymore.

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: It is nothing unique to the Somalis. Somalis take it to another extreme. I don't think there are arabgates/pakigates etc. exposing poor underaged girls. And Somaligate is back.. :mad:

Originally posted by Mj. bada Cas: Violet, I thought you supported the TFG based on nationlistic view and not adeero adeero kinda of deal?! I was kidding.

So you either support the "Xabashis" or the "justified resistance"? There isn't anything in between? Whatever. I don't care for Somali politics anymore. Bye.

I think the resistance is justified, but that doesn't mean I support it. As for my "Pro-Xabashi" stance, people change. :rolleyes: