Tolstoy, you have a lot free time on your hand, to write two pages of replies everyday that are just BS. Instead of name-calling and insults (secondary school behavior) why don't you just answer the questions in an ooday fashion?

I think you know that your qabil is your family, some generation ago you and the person from your qabil had the same father, and you shouldn't neglect who you are and your "family". A good majority of Somalis automatically define qabil with hatred (as you have done), when in reality qabil is much more than "having to hate reer hebel because we fought." Walal you are an educated guy (well the way your writing lol)you know that qabil isn't what destroyed our beloved country, it was a couple of power-hungary old men who used the clan card to get to the position they wanted i.e Abdullahi Yusef. I would write more...but my class is starting. Ramadaan Karim

we (Somalis) all belong to ONE tribe which is the SO'MAAL. The So'maal tibe haye Please further explain your theory.

I believe in only one unit of belongness- islam. all other things are based on lies and a distortion of history. Correct if I'm worng, which I doubt, but doesn't our diin teach us to know were we came from and more specifically about knowing our qabil. I don't buy the tribalistic abtiris. I have denounced my so called tribe- Now how can you "denounce" your qabil, when you are born into that qabil and will be part of that qabil, unless your mother in unaware of who your father is. I have come to the conclusion that its foundation is the same as that one of St Clause (father christmas). I see such remarks as this one and many more from the likes of miyaar-moderator as diret insults and attacks on me and my "family," inwhich we are being referred to as "offsprings of an unknown father." How dare you question our lineage. The other thing, why are you men trying so hard to impose your theories about Somalis and their origins on us, and expecting us to take all your crap?

You gotta love GedoNet.com's explanation. Read below...The question is: How will the Muqdisho wing view such a new development? Why blow this out of proportion? The "Gedo militia" are just few men with weapons who are playing the security role, I mean we all know what happened the last time one of our own went to Jowhar. Why else would they be there, do you think they are on some kind of a mission? Or do you see this as the Gedo people picking a side, your side :confused:

I did mean genealogically, that all Somalis share the same common progenitor; probably Samaale. With the exception of the agro-pastoralist Sab, whom themselves are a loose confederacy with no kinship. Walaalo, I disagree, I don't think all Somalis descendent from one man, and the faster we recognize our difference, the sooner we will see our similarities (mainly religion) and embrace them, and hopefully unite.

MILK how many names changes do you have.....

Beledweyne, under the theory of elite reasoning, falls under the dadka degaanka category. How come Beledweyne-origin girls look more Arab than the others who claim to be of Arab origin? A lot of useless, boastful talk. Now we all know the inhabitants of Beledweyn are "originally" from Goldogob, and its undisputed that they are truely a lost clan of Ilmo jaberti. interesting debate, but id like to clarify one thing though. The ancestors of the 2 northern clans at least the one dominant in Berbera arrived in the mod 12th century not the 600's. making it the youngest, and more clearly idebtifiable If it's so identifiable then why is it that the fathers name has been forgotten, and engage in hoyoo-tirsi. :confused:

Why don't you guys seperate the one known Ismaciil Jaberti from all the others confused Sky-awalba waa kaa shakiyey, I dare you to go to Puntland and say that -Sadeboi/Nomadic Activist Applause Applause for the re-entry of the Great descendent of Sheikh Cabdiraxmaan Bin Ismaaciil Bin Ibraahim (Jaberti) Bin Cabdiraxmaan Bin Maxmed Bin Cabdi-Samad Bin Xambal Bin Mahdi Bin Axmed Bin Cabdalle Bin Maxamed Bin Caaqil Bin Abi-Talib Bin Abdul-Mutallib Bin Abdul-Munayf Bin Qusaya Bin Hashim. descendent of the great Hashemite race.

How historic .................*Abdiqasim*