First, I think the .5 means they aren't a major clan, the six major clans, who are politically more involved in Somalia. Not necessary meaning they are half a human.

Walal, sometimes, in order to have peace and prosperity certain actions must be taken.

Barre Hirale: mass assassination Barre had to remove some in order to pacify the terrible quandaries that the city faced at that time, actions that are justifiable.

Wind I think it's better to become a rebel and fight your government to get back to power, then to legalize KHAT I can say the SNM militias fought hard and militarily liberated Waqooyi-Galbeed from Barre's (aun) Army. Oh they did OK

SL leaders are pathetic because, instead of empowering liberators (i.e. members of the SNM), :confused: Walal if SL leaders are pathetic because they didn't empower the "Liberators," then that means that the Somali leaders aren't pathetic because they empowered "A" liberator (a member of the SSDF, role model of the SNM), so I don't get your dislike of the outcomes of Mbagathi, and of him. You have managed to even confuse yourself.

The good old days I wish had experience....well...whats the point in talking about something you haven't experienced...Peace

I guess he is.....explain yourself Alpha-Geeljire Explain myself, but why, you already answered for me? Mr.Qeybdiid was in court, not I. My writing is self-explanatory;I haven't wrote an essay like tolstoy have I? Somalians look the same which ever clan they are to me Great to know saxiib.

^^^ Adeer, truthfully speaking you are a very intellectual individual (thou I don't agree with you a lot of times---and that could be because I don't read everything that you write--and I think thats why you higlight words).I just want to know how you find time to write thought provoking "essays" on all most every post you replay to?

Keeping warlords from fighting amongs themselves and weakening each is not in the interest of the somali people .

you sound like Juma, and thats terrible We are entitled to our opinions I found your whole persona funny Why I am honored :cool:

Hit home huh

^^ Camel, I meant we as those who might not have liked Hiiraale in the past should give him credit for this move. The defeated lot

^^^^^ No he hasn't! Xildhibaan Barre Hiiraale oo dib u bilaabaya Dadaalkiisii Heshiisiinta Madaxda Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliyeed Warar lagu kalsoon yahay oo aynu ka helnay ilo ku dhow dhow Wasiirka Dib u dhiska iyo Dib u dejinta Xukuumadda Federaalka Soomaaliyeed Xildhibaan Barre Aadan Shire Hiiraale ayaa sheegaya in maalmaha soo socda uu Wasiirku u amba bixi doono magaalada Nairobi, si uu u sii wado waan waantii uu ka dhex waday labada garab ee ay u kala jabtay Dowladda Federaalka. Xildhibaan Barre ayaa la filayaa in uu magaalada Nairobi kula kulmo Guddoomiyaha Golaha Baarlamaanka Shariif Xasan Shiikh Aadan, isagoo kala hadli doona sidii wada hadal loola geli lahaa xubnaha ku sugan magaalada Jowhar. Wasiirka ayaa qorsheynaya in uu si fool ka fool ah isugu keeno Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka iyo Madaxweyne C/llaahi Yuusuf Axmed, si uu xal ugu helo madmadowga ku dhex jira ee beryahaan dambe aadka u sii xoogeysanaya. Warku wuxuu intaasi ku darayaa in Wasiirku uu xiriir dhinaca Taleefoonka ah la sameeyay madaxweyne C/llaahi Yuusuf Axmed, uuna ka ogolaaday wada kulanka isaga iyo Shariifka, inkastoo aan la sheegin halka ay ku kulmi doonaan iyo waxa uu ka dhihi doono Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka dadaalka uu wado Xildhibaan Barre Hiiraale. Horay ayaa waxaa u soo baxay warar sheegayay in Col. Barre Hiiraale uu Magaalada Kismaayo ku martiqaaday Madaxweynaha iyo Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka, laakin waxaa loo maleynayaa in ay adkaatay arrintaas maadaama aan la isku haleyn karin ammaanka magaalada Kismaayo oo dhawaan lagu dilay Sarkaal Soomaali ah oo u shaqeynayay Qaramada Midoobay. Xildhibaan Barre Hiiraale oo mar sii horeysay magaalada Muqdisho socdaal ku tegay ayaa wuxuu halkaas ka bilaabay dadaal uu doonayay in wada hadallo uga dhex furo Xubnaha Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliyeed ee kala jooga magaalooyinka Muqdisho iyo Jowhar, hayeeshee dadaalkiisaas wuxuu noqday mid socon waayay kadib markii ay ka horyimaadeen xubno Muqdisho ku sugan oo heshiiskaasna muhiim u ah, inkastoo ay jireen warar kale oo sheegayay in Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Md. Shariif Xasan Shiikh Aadan uu ka dalbaday Xildhibaan Barre in uu la sugo ammaanka Dadaalka Dib u heshiisiineed ee uu wado. Salaad Iidow Xasan (Xiis), Hiiraan Online sxiis@hiiraan.com Mogadishu, Somalia I hope some people follow up on their words this time. Aniga iyo wasiirka dib u dhiska iyo dib u dajinta Barre Hiiraale waxaa nahay labo qof oo aad is kugu dhaw mana ahi qof ka hor imaado hadal uu yiri Barre Hiiraale hadii uu wax ii soo jeediyana mudo hal daqiiqo ah ayaan ku aqbalaa , aniga iyo Barena waxaanu nahay labo Qof oo saaxiibo ah waxaa sidaasi yiri wasiirka Ganacsiga Muuse Suudi oo ka hadlayay waxa ka jira in ay hor istaageen Qorshihii Wasiirka Dib u dhiska Barre hiiraale.

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: quote: I don't know him personally, I just know who he is, and he is definealtly from puntland. This is wat happens when people stop using their brians. They see everything through someonelse's eyes. Yeey cheerleaders read everything through's yeey's lenses. The idea of one them(Plander) expressing anything contrary Yeey's beliefs is pretty foriegn to them. I don't see what my personal knowing of windtalker, had to do with the blindless of Yey's cheerleader. by using that same reasoning I suppose then we can also safely say that I'm also from Jubada Hoose region, Benadir region, Xarardheere area and also some tuulos in eastern Ethiopia Just as I am from Jubba States, Western Galguduud, Eastern and southeast ethiopia, NFD....... you know what I mean, the degaans of your clan family. Banadir :confused: And you based your whole analysis on knowing who he is, but not knowing him personally It was based on the personality he shows on SOL, I might be wrong, but thats just my view.

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: quote: I don't know him personally, I just know who he is, and he is definealtly from puntland. This is wat happens when people stop using their brians. They see everything through someonelse's eyes. Yeey cheerleaders read everything through's yeey's lenses. The idea of one them(Plander) expressing anything contrary Yeey's beliefs is pretty foriegn to them.

Tell me as you seem to know him personally I don't know him personally, I just know who he is, and he is definealtly from puntland.

^^^ Yoonis, you have stated that our dear lad is flip-flopper worst then Kerry in the 04' election, whose views change daily, solely depending how he feels at that exact moment. Now, believe me, I am not disagreeing with you, to some sort at least. I just think the causes of his “changing views†are due to the "liberal thinker" mentality he has, rather then the shirt he wears that day . He wants to make himself and the SOL nomads believe that his views aren't based on what qabil he is, thus changing them constantly. At the end of the day, when goes to bed after all the college work, he reminisces about what he wrote on Somaliaonline, happily smiling, as his hands are folded behind his back, having this emotional climax, for he feels like he was a moderate Somali, unlike the rest of the clannish buffoons, you, I, Tolstoy (his great friend). ---Wind its OK, your dear friend four eye shares this with you too.

^^^ I see I have an admirer,a new found fascination with me shall we say? To make you happy since this is ramadan, a time to give, I will give you something, and answer your question, thou your questions have become a nuisance to me However, seriously, do you think Soomaalis--either men or women--look radically different (that is "beautiful" or "ugly" under your observations) because of clan? There have been heavy inter-marriages between clans, so no, I don't think Somalis look radically different because of clan. Thou, I believe, that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, what might be "beautiful" or "ugly" to you might not be to me, and visa-verse.

Where is the source? Who wrote it?

The dude that assassinated C/rashid Ali Shermake really f****d up contemporary Somali history. . :eek: It's ramadan, and I think cursing isn't part of fasting

^^^ Walal I haven't said anything that is false,or could break my fasting, have I?

Qeybdiid looks very different then the people who are behind him,I wish I knew where his mother is from. Well, I see the moryons of muqdishu have united, once again, to bring destruction,poverty,rapes,killings..etc.

5) South (Gedo, J/dhexe iyo J/Hoose) First its called JUBBASTATES, and it has been in the making for quite sometime now (after the fifth defeat of Yey and Morgon's mahbars), and not an invention of yey. Continue with your debate.

These dudes don't want to agree with each other at all. On one hand, you've got Qanyare saying he's not gonna support an internal Somali solution (as was offered by Barre Hiiraale + some Muq/Jowhar MPs). Qanyare only wants to support U.N./Int'l initiative to resolve the differences between Muqdisho and Jowhar. On the other hand, you've got Col Yeey telling Mr. Fall (U.N. rep) to stop his initiative because an internal Somali solution is close at hand (according to pro-Yeey site, AllPuntland.com). So, Col Yeey wants to support only an internal Somali solution. None of these dudes want peace or a resolution to Somalia's problems - unless they're given the "top dog" position. The U.N. is wasting time and money trying to seek an agreement betweent these two factions. Its beyond obvious they're not agreeing because they don't want to agree. Whenever one side says something, the other side rejects it and comes up with some new solution (usually the exact opposite). What a buncha crap! Off course! What else do you expect to happen,when donkeys who were once caged roam the streets freely, given authority but can not govern, for only so much can their impotent mind can handle, and a maangaab who has been a rebel for a quarter century, hiding out in tuulo's after tuulo's, only knowing the lingo of a mucaarad which is proven by his amazing lack of making great or even a somewhat meaningful presidential speeche(s)

Our people are people who are true nationalists and pioneers of how to rule a country. Ma sheekadi boqor kenediid iyo cismon baad keentay.