Good idea, it is however limited by how many people in there actually know sign language!

Originally posted by Nayruus: C$N, you know the implication. How come the leader of the main opposition party does not bother to visit his constituent for more than six years? When you are attempting to comment on this question, wouldn’t it be fair if you adopt the mental status of the SNM gangs that claim that they live in a democracy which the “hired pen” described as the best kept “democracy in Africa”? I mean put yourself in their shoes. Tell me in the history of a democracy where an opposition leader has chosen not to bother to visit outside the country let along his hometown for that long… Compare that with waraabe waaraabe’s travel routes for comparatively similar time.. This is not "waxa la yiri". This is the truth..the man is under house and office arrest. He can not even visit Berbara. Him not visiting Burco for 100 years does not mean he is under house arrest. He was chilling in the UK last year: http://www.kulmiye.com/news.asp?p=06011300 and that took me exactly 5 seconds to google.

Now why would the clouds do that? What are they trying to prove? And what if the said formation occured in a non-arabic country? Will all the clouds' efforts go down the drain? Or would they have the intelligence to form the name in English/Swahili/Hindi/Chinese..etc? Why/How would the clouds know how to write in arabic anyway? Oh well...

Waa mudantihiin Dhulqarnayn and Badda Cas. There were lots of images on the first page of this topic, where did they all go? Edit: Seems my machine is on something here, I could swear alot of posts were missing. Anyways, thanks everyone and please contribute.

Very nice pictures indeed! Here are some: The village of Oog (in Cayn in the Nugaal region then), this was taken back in the 1800s-1900s. Oog in 2006: Degmada Caynabo, Cayn:

Dont act coy with me now. [big Grin] But,dont you think Theres gotta be a reason(& Believe yeah) as to why they would preach such intense revulsion & distaste to such people? Not that i am excusing their behaviors but....remember you said its all a Belief There is no reason to hate. People can come up with all sorts of arguments (different skin colour, faith, hair-dp...etc) but at the end of the day you know its all crap. I can understand the point in which some people would rather preserving their unity and all that, which can be a good thing, but hating someone just because they have different faith to yours is just plain ******. Hate goes both ways, and I understand there are examples as bad on the other camp but I think you agree that our muslim brothers are usually the quickest to fire they bullets

Faarax, LOL. Hate to disapoint you but I aint a white chick, waa ku sidee? I was refering to the subject of Muwaalaa in which some people preach hate towards anyone believing in anything different to their own beliefs.

I never "ran" away from any debate in that particualr discussion . It was unfortunate that the brother on the other end had absolutely no knowledge of Arabic which turned our discussion into a fruitless shouting match. my interest was for once the former Muslims here as they call themselves to put forth an arguement against Islamic aqeedah since they have never done so, we will then be able counter it and overall show why atheism is false. And there was me thinking you were trying to return your lost brethren into the rightous path Anyways, Its nice to be humble.. good on you. My only advice is to respect other people's views on matters as you'd like them to respct yours, dont fall into the trap that is the notion of right and wrong, its all a waste of time and money my friend.

Khalaf, could you elaborate on what false sources I was using at the time? I see you didnt join the discussion because you were giving space for "the more knowledgable" as you like to put to talk, right? You have never been the one to argue in religions matters, why start now? Faarax, you're a very respectable forumer, I applaud you my friend, (couldnt say brother for obvious reasons ).

Catalyst, "IF" is just a wishful hope. In faith and religion there is no room for "IFs". You take it wholly and believe it. Faarax, thats funny because many people view the whole religion thing as one big "IF" I agree though, its a matter of belief.

Amin this, amin that. What if, just what if all your prayers were to a non existing deity? How would that make you feel? You guys need to learn that some people hold different beliefs to your own. If you choose to believe in Mohamed then thats your business, just dont force it upon others. Wasalaamu calaykum waraxmatullahi wabarakaato

Well, now we know why he keeps his trademark beard! Oh, and he is the one in the middle incase you guys havent noticed.

Informed by history, the one thing that has always bugged me about the way bad guys play out in dramas is that they seem so... bad. So irritable, and unpleasant, and humorless, and often arrogantly ******. This is actually a dangerous thing. When you teach people that evil wears a mask that even an ***** could see through, people don't try really try to pierce the smiling, paternal, populist masks that evil actually tends to wear when it reaches toward power. Thus: Forest Whitaker = genius. Whitaker's Idi Amin was ultimately a monster who lived up to the historical record. But he was also funny. Impulsive. Imaginative. Passionate. Persausive. Sharp. And even, in the earlier parts of the film, inspiring. This was no one-note performance; it was incredibly lush, and rich. And most importantly: it sets a standard by which all historical "bad guy" roles should be judged by. Being evil is not so hard. Being charismatic, charming and persausive on TOP of being evil is incredibly difficult -- and the sort of thing we ought to give a little more thought to when we try to identify the good guys, villains and incredible rogues gallery in between that populate the real world's geopolitical stage.

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MKA Yoonis. I have, on the matter of Hassan Al-Askari pointed out without much argument that the man indeed had no children. That is not the end of the story however which is why I had to try and educate you on the subject matter here and why the very claims to Hassan al Askari from all around the world can not be descredited like that. You clearly didnt read my Arabic text in my very first post herre which contained my whole argument. Its your lack of knowledge, it seems, in the Arabic language that is causing you all the confusion. How could you engage in a discussion with me when you havent read the post I started this convo. with? Dont let your hatered blind your eyes my friend, I can post a link where your family are asking Arabs to recognise them as Ahlul-beyt (wonder who they're trying to copy here?) and to be honest with you I dont really know what our Arabian friends found so funny but they seemed very amused .

You clearly seem unable read the arabic text I provided while, at the same time, trying to maintain your position on a matter of which you have no knowledge of, apart from a couple of english articles here and there. If you are that interest in the subject of the matter here why dont you spare us all the emotional outbursts and go read the resources noted up?

Dont bring any emotional nonsense to this discussion Mr. MKA Yoonis. I have provided an Arabic text which clearly state the situation seen in many houses of Ashrafs in which they were, wrongfully, attributed to Al-Hassan Al-Askari who had no offspring. Its a well known situation and if you are really interested in the answer to that by scholars of the science of Nasab, then you should know that it was agreed upon that so many Qurashis from Mekka, Egypt, Madina, Sudan, Somaliland were mistakingly added to the geneological line of Hassan and were therfore corrected to Ja'far Al-Zaki bin Ali Al-Hadi. Just read the text in my replay above and you shall find all the answers along with all the sources, books, biblography..etc.

Originally posted by MKA Yoonis: I have educated saylici already once on this matter, so this will be my last time inshallah! Brother your abtirsiyo on Hassan Al-Caskari is embarrassing, flaud and just plain wrong because as I told you before Hassan Al-Caskari didn't have any children! So why would you base your abtirsiyo on someone, who never had any children? Are you that desperate? Atleast when you make up lies, they should be believable but unless you're not shiite ofcourse and you believe in manhaj Ahlu-Sunnah wal' Jamaacah and you're a Sunni, then it is quite clear for all that Hassan Al-Caskari never did have children and that it was made up by the Shiites because the imaamate would come to an end, so they invented children out of the blue for Hassan Al-Caskari, so please make your abtirsiyo on someone else but not on a sincere religious and god-fearing man, who died at the tender age of 27/28 and who never had any children! Amazing how someone could come up with this, to say you're a offspring of some man who never had any children but suddenly you invent and attribute to him a whole bunch of child generations on to his name, althoug it is quite evidant in the history books that he never had children, subhanallaah that's mad! السادة الاشراف الرضويون الكرام المنسوبون في مشجراتهم خطأ الى الحسن العسكري , شهرتهم بالشرف ثابتة عند علماء الانساب , و الصحيح انهم مرفوعون الى اخيه السيد جعفر الزكي بن علي الهادي. و قد ذكر نسبهم مرفوعا الى السيد محمد بن الحسن بن جعفر الزكي بن علي الهادي , في عدة كتب قديمة : 1- "صحاح الأخبار في نسب السادة الفاطمية الأخيار" للسيدالنسابة سراج الدين الرفاعي المخزومي طبعة الهند 1306 هجري صفحة56 و هو معاصر للمقريزي (845 هه) وهو نسابة معروف وكتابه عن الأنساب حجة. 2- "الدر السني للنسب الحسيني والحسني" للفاسي القادري للنسابة العلامة المغربي السيد عبدالسلام القادري الحسني الفاسي في مخطوطه الذي حققه حفيده السيدعبدالقادر عام 1305 هجري , و هو مخطوط و الصفحة عليها رقمان الأعلى 73 وفي اسفلها 27 3- نور الأبصار للشبلنجي صفحة261 4- الطبقات الكبرى للشعراني , في ترجمة احمد البدوي 5- تذييل بحر الانساب للسيد مرتضى الزبيدي رحمه لله , و هو حجة النسابين في عصره. و غيرها. (و اضاف بعض الاخوان الرضويين ان هذا العمود مذكور في "تاريخ الاسلام و تراجم الاعلام الكبير" للذهبي (742 هه) , و تاريخ المقريزي (840هه) , و لم ارهما بعيني حتى الان و جاري البحث عنهما لندرة التاريخ الكبير و توفر الصغير فقط , لاحظ ان الذهبي كان تلميذا لابن دقيق العيد تلميذ البدوي مباشرة , فهو معاين لا معنعن ) و قد اختارت لجنة النسب بنقابة السادة الاشراف بمصر الرفع الى جعفر الزكي , و انزلته في اخر مجلاتها في مشجر لال المغازي الرضويين , و هم ابناء عم السيد عزاز الاكبر . و نرى ان هذا التحقيق صائبا , و هو الرفع الى جعفر الزكي , و يشترك في ذلك علماء مكتبة النجف الاشرف حيث لدي مشجرة للسادة المغازية بتاريخ 1988 ترفعهم ايضا الى جعفر الزكي , مع ملاحظة ان هذا اختيار نقابة الاشراف بمصر ايام الزبيدي رحمه الله من قبل. و اضيف ان هذا تحقيق السيد الجوعاني و اختياره بالمجمع العالمي لانساب ال البيت و السادة ال اللقاني المعرفين للسادة الموسويين بالحجاز و السادة ممثلي الاشراف العراقيين بالمغرب و غيرهم من الجهابذة من علماء اهل البيت الاكارم لم اذكرهم لضيق الوقت فقط .

Its a fact that the historical area of Cayn is the present day Caynabo and surroundings. With that in mind: There is no official Cayn district of Somaliland but there are talks of a naming the Cayn area (Caynabo to the border of Buhoodle) a province. With its capital being Caynabo. Puntland on the other hand does have an official province under the same name Cayn, which is basically the Buhoodle district. Whether Caynabo is included in the Cayn province of Puntiland is unclear. A bit confusing though to have the province of Cayn without CAYNabo, isnt it? Gabiley is a very large town population wise, there were also talks into making it a stand alone province but I dont have any news on that. I remember Mr.Silanyo promising the people of Gabiley to name their area a province if elected for president.

Ancient Ruins in Ainabo - Central Somaliland By Musa Hersi Somalia, in the Horn of Africa, has always been remote but its inaccessibility is all the greater today after nearly two decades of warfare and anarchy. While chaos continues in the south, the northern part of the former "Somali Democratic Republic" has achieved remarkable peace and stability in recent years, established its own borders and declared its independence and statehood as the Somaliland Republic - a distinct entity from the failed state in the south. Musa Hersi, a Somali émigré living in the UK, recently had the opportunity to travel in the Somaliland Republic. He came across extensive and apparently very ancient stone ruins in the central area around Ain (marked with a cross on our map), including a number of small pyramidal structures. He reports here exclusively for grahamhancock.com. I wish to make clear to the reader at the outset that I am neither an archaeologist, nor a writer about archaic civilisations. I am no authority on any particular science. I believe I can best describe myself as an enthusiast of and a keen reader about past human civilisations. I would therefore hope that any drawbacks detected in the lingo and concepts used in this article will be seen in that light. The same goes if my hypothesis about the existence of previously unexplored evidence in Somaliland is seen by some as, perhaps, farfetched. Whether my claims can be proved or otherwise can wait until further investigations are made On a private visit to Somaliland in the summer of 2005, I happened to be in a remote region called Ain for a week. During that period, I came across stone mounds and ruins, clustered along a stretch of land about 15 km long and 5 wide. As the reason for my visit was local community development, I was not able to do much work in recording what I saw there. However, I was able to reconnoitre the landscape and some of the structures involved. The following is a tentative attempt to present a picture of what I saw there, and it will be divided into three subheadings; a look at the general synopsis of the three distinct ruins; the myths and beliefs of the local people surrounding these ruins; and the challenges and difficulties threatening the future existence of these sites, which may be of immense scientific importance to the country and to the wider world Keep reading...