Assalamu Alaikum, Brother Sophist I really don't care if you respond to emotional black mail or not. My intention was to show you the errors you've made in judging something you can't possibly conceive. I don't like to argue with someone who claims he isn't religious and yet practice's Sufism which is a branch of Islamic thought. Having said that, I will leave you with Khayr's post and I hope it enlightens you. I would like you to pay close attention to the following quote by Shaykh Muhammad Sa'id Burhani who was a major Damascene Hanafi faqih and Sufi. Do not limit yourself to deep words and profound spiritual allusions but make provision for the afterlife before death comes, when fine words will be lost and the raka's you prayed by night or day will remain.. Good Day Walaal

Assalamu Alaikum Walaal, Sophist, I totally disagree with you on the notion that nothing in the physical world is beautiful. Who are you to make such an assumption? Do you remember when the Sufi Al-Hallaj said, "Ana Al-Haqq which can also be translated as "I am the Truth" ", and for such little words he was killed by the Amir. Walaal, there are certain things you have no say in and that is judging what is beautiful in this dunya and what isn't. If you decide that nothing in this physical dunya is beautiful then you have put forth your own pride. For you to make such remarks is insulting to the men who you consider great Sufi's and to those that have the slightest idea what you have just written. Let me give you a little list of Sufi's your familliar with that would laugh at this speculation you've just made "Nothing in this physical world is beautiful". Rabia Al-Adawiya Abu Said Abu Al-Khayr Abu Hamid Al-Ghazali Ibn Arabi Yunus Emre...etc.

Assalamu Alaikum Wr Wb, Brother Sophist, I must differ with you on one thing but everything else I stand on the same grounds as you. I agree that love is a figment of imagination that humans' have placed in their hearts to soften there existence on this earth. Today's love is nothing but a mere physical repulsion between the opposite genders. This so-called love is nothing but LUST that leads to Zina, Unwanted pregnancy, aide's, STD, and of course rape. True Love is the love you have for someone for the sake of Allah. When such love enters the inner heart of an individual then he is emotionally intoxicated for the rest of his existence. This type of love is the love that existed between the Prophet and his Companions. I will remind you of the greatest female Sufi which your probably familiar with. Rabia al-Adawiyya was an Islamic Sufi that never believed in love between man and women. She loved Allah so much that she died without getting married. She wrote a poem once, which spoke of her love for Allah. "O Allah If I Love You out of fear of Hell, burn me in Hell! If I Love you out of desire for Paradise, Lock me out of Paradise. But if I love you for yourself alone, Do not deny to me your eternal beauty." This kind of love is one that beats all borders that exist between the seen and the Unseen. "Nothing in this physical world is beautiful." Its a fact that everything beautiful in this dunya is the blessing of Allah so for you to say that nothing in this physical world is beautiful would be a contradiction on your behalf. Are you telling me that the sight of seeing the Mecca or Medina would not be beautiful to the eyes of a faithful believer? My request for forgiveness if I missed read your words brother.

Assalamu Alaikum, Jazakallah Kheiran Brother Mujahid. Keep them coming Insha'allah. You didn't offend anyone but conveyed the message of Allah in a beautiful manner. Isn't it comical that sisters claim to be Muslims yet disregard the Hijab or wear it inappropriately? They say they fear Allah yet display their body like prostitutes. They get angry when they are compared to Street women yet in reality they show the same traits and persona. Isn't it also funny that one of their favorite lines is "Its between Allah and me". Such women anticipate being great parents one day but I truly feel sorry for their offspring. Are they forgetting that all the minor signs of the Day of Judgment have come true and it’s a matter of time that this Dunya comes to an end? There is one thing that is guaranteed and no atheist will even argue with is “DEATH”. The greatest civilizations have been destroyed and the most powerful dictators (Stalin, Caesar of Rome, Hitler, Pharaoh) have all become dust. I advice you to pay close attention to what Mujahid has written.

Northerner, Walaal you just said what I have been trying to convey all along to you and to the rest. "Anyway I'm tired of arguing over such an obvious issue with ppl who will probably tell me the sky is green!"

Ameenah, I have absolutely nothing to say to you. To the rest of the posters, continue your discussion on Somaliland.

The E-mail group will start January 15 and end in May 15, 2003. A brother could continue from that day Insha'Allah. Thank You for the advice Khayr, Abdinuur, Tamina, Jawahiir. P.S. Sisters if you go to search engine's you could find E-mail groups for muslim sisters from all over the world. If your intention is sincere, go to these or creat one amongst yourselfs. OG-Moti, your advice is taken brother. Remember Jawahiir too much laughter darkens the Heart and leads to forgetting Allah. (paraphrased hadith). Wa Salam

Assalamu Alaikum, Due to the typical Somali arguments, I have decided to Cancel this e-mail group. My sincere appology to those that where looking forward to it. Now let this topic fade away please.

Congratulations brother Libaax.

Assalamu Alaikum, Brother Northerner I think it's in the best interest of Somaliland if you didn't discuss it amongst people who aren't having the same view as you. Nationalism is in the heart and it shouldn't be thread dedicated to Somaliland. Ameenah, I don't remember replying to you or any of your threads so keep your words for individuals that will listen to them.

VERILY THE MOST HONORED OF YOU IN THE SIGHT OF ALLAH IS HE WHO IS THE MOST RIGHTEOUS OF YOU" (49:13)!! I can't believe you actually adviced a brother to approach a sister knowing that its Haram if the intention isn't marriage. May Allah forgive those who contributed to this thread.

Assalamu Alaikum Wr Wb, Brother OG_Moti, I will answer your questions and I am a brother if you got the gender's confused. Q1. For religious reasons I rather deal with brothers only. Its also my personal choice. Q2. You entered a conversation between me and Macruuf. He wanted an autograph of an Imam. So I told him that they don't do such things but in his case they might bend the rules. P.S. I hope your satisfied with the answers. Nasra, I am not biased, but if you want why don't you start an e-mail group for the sisters.

Assalamu Alaikum, One minute she is a Muslima, the second minute she is dancing to Somali music in the party. Istakfurrallah, that is what I call a forced Hijab on a sister. No offence but thats what I observed. :eek: Cheers, Taqwa

Assalamu Alaikum Wr Wb, Could we forget this politics and have a decent discussion. I am sure Somaliland is not something to be discussed in a Somali website. Before you jump on my throat, I suggest you read what I said carefully. This is a Somali site, and not a Somaliland site.

Salam Abdi a.k.a Macruuf, I rarely laugh but brother you certainly are a comedian. I don't think Imam's give autographs but I'm sure in your case there will be an exception to the rule. It will be a pleasure sending you a weekly reminder (starting tomorrow) Insha'allah. P.S. Some brothers just send me their e-mails but forget to tell me their names. Well in that case I'll assume your all Farah's. Wa Salam, Taqwa

Assalamu Alaikum My noble brother's, I will start an e-mailing group soon insha'allah. Its really simple to be honest. I will send you a weekly e-mail reminding you of Allah. So that you don't get bored of reading it, it will not be like the usuall e-mail but rather a personal one. I hate wasting time online, so what better way to be online and collect good deeds. Your probably wondering who will send me the same advice, well a good friend has been doing it for me since 1999. It truly pays off when you open your email and you remember Allah `azza wa jall. P.S. I mean what I say so no laziness. P.S.S. Send me a private with your name and e-mail. These two things will remain private. This will be for a four month period and insha'allah maybe another brother can take over. Brothers Only.

Assalamu Alaikum! I was once told that silence is the best answer to undesirable individuals. To be truly honest, I'm against most things in this site, if not all, but then its not for me to say what should be. I tried to remind people that they should start acting like muslims, and stop writing threads like sex, when they can be having fun discussing the latest issue's in the global world. I told them that we are muslims in character, speech, and in action. Yet I was laballed as a fanatic who wants to turn everyone into Mulla Omar. If decency isn't the etiquette's of the nomads of this site, then I'm sure I have wasted my time in advocating for good morals. I swear I do not like one, and I mean one person in this site, but I have given respect and I didn't expect it to return. I went against some sisters that where acting like britney spears when they are flight 13 recruits, and for that I was labelled sexist. I told them that it wasn't islamically right to talk about sexually explicit content, or post their pictures but then I was told that I was too extreme. So it all comes down to morals. Certainly, Taqwa's morals and SomaliaOnline are having conflicts, so the only solution was to stop writing threads. I used to go to islamic sites and non-islamic sites, like ummah.com, islamway.com, islaam.com. I met someone of the best muslim characters you can have in a muslim site, and maybe I expected too much from somaliaOnline. I would say, that if your against some of the rules and regulations of this site, or you say something that might offend some Nomads, you'll be labelled a fanatic. One advice to new nomads, is that you either have to be a retard or a retard in progress to get along with some of these threads. I agree that I loose my temper vary quickly but when your faced with rubbish threads, any human being who is morally correct should be. So the only answer I have for myself is that silence is the best tool for individuals you don't like. Again I'm certainly going to be killed for what I have said, but hey don't waste your time writing cuz I dont' feel like arguing." Welcome to kufaarville, where anything goes. Your Brother, Taqwa

Assalamu Alaikum Brother Mujahid, I am having the same thing with this website that allows sisters to show their picture's when its absolutely Haram in the Islamic Diin. We should be united under the clouds of Islam, rather then fitnah. I posted a whole topic on Why the sisters post their picture's online, and guess what the dictator of this site does, he erase's without permission. There was absolutely no swearing, no profanity, and no insults. I swear by the 99 names of Allah, that we are among munafiiq's that don't care about the future of Muslims. As believers of this beautiful religion we are suppose to prevent bad things with our tongue, money, and if not to pray against it. May Allah punish those who increase fitnah, believer or non-believer. May Allah not have mercy on those that have a seed of hypocirsy in their heart. Amiiiin Ya Allah. P.S. Wallahi I am sick of these Munafiiqs around me. My sincere appology to some of you, I certainly lost my temper with this site. Allah Hafiz

Assalamu Alaikum, I take my hat off to Shaqsii for his commments. Brother Jamal, your question is void to be honest with you. The first part of the question says, "Oh my fellow youth" Could you possibly define what youth means, since most men in their 50's still consider themselve's politically fit to run. The second part of your question is contradicting also. It says, "Do we need the evil old". Well to tell you the truth, I don't need anyone that is evil regardless of his age. You should have wrote, "Do we need the old generation". Since all of the old people aren't evil its quite generalizing to view them that way. Therefore, your question is missleading and the only thing you do is applaude those that agree with what you think. Enough said. If i where you, I would look at Nelson Mandella and see what he has acheived at such an age. Jazakallah Kheiran for your Question though.

Assalamu Alaikum to the Poster. I admire those that fear Allah in public and in private. Since only Allah knows the hearts of the Nomads of Somaliaonline, I can't be certain who is a true believer or who isn't. I will leave it at that, since you love and hate for the sake of Allah only. Jazakallah kheiran to the poster.

Assalamu Alaikum, Khayr, There is a great degree of difference between men and women when it comes to dress code. You see, the Hijab is an order from Allah (swt), where as the beard is a Sunnah of our blessed prophet (pbuh). You can't put these two things into the same context. Allah has said that both men and women should dress modestly, but there isn't a specific garments that you should wear. Every culture has certain clothing that may seem modest but it doesn't mean you must adopt them, but rather dress modestly. It is generally understood that men are not to expose the area of their body from the navel to the knee. However, many Muslim men would feel shy to expose a bare chest or bare legs in public. P.S. Before you ask us to grow our beards, lecture your own father who looks like the average kufr walking on the street. I don't tell a women to wear a hijab nor do I tell a brother to grow his beard. It's really not my business and I'm terrible in dawah. No insults intended. wa alaikum salam dear brother.

Definition The beard (Arabic: lihyah) is defined as the hair which grows on the cheeks and the jaws (ex., review: al-Qamus al-Muhit by al-Fayrazabadi). It includes the hair of the temples, the growth underneath the lower lip, the hair of the chin, and the hair that grows on the lower side of the jaws. The Islamic Ruling Concerning Beards Growing the beard is a wajib (mandatory) for all males who are capable of doing so. This has ample evidence in the Sunnah (as will be shown below) and is the unanimous opinion of the ulamaa of Islam. One should not be misled by the neglect to this sunnah by a few contemporary shaykhs, and by their providing shaky fatwas to support their action. By doing that they make people follow them into the wrong way, when the Messenger (S) said: He who starts a good sunnah (way) will be rewarded for it, in addition to receiving rewards equal to the rewards of those who follow him into it. Whereas he who starts a bad sunnah will be burdened with it, in addition to receiving burdens equal to the burdens of those who follow him into it. [Muslim] And he said: Allah does not pull the knowledge abruptly from the hearts of people, but he takes away the knowledge by taking [the lives of] the `ulamaa (true scholars). When no `ulamaa are left, people will take ignorant persons for leaders. Those will give them fatwa (religious verdicts) without knowledge. By doing this, they will stray and lead others astray as well. [Al-Bukhari] A List of Violations Shaving the beard results in a series of Islamic violations, as is obvious from Allah's Book and His Messenger's Sunnah. The following is a list (not necessarily comprehensive) of such violations: a. A Disobedience to Allah (T) Shaving the beard is a disobedience to Allah (T). The ruler of Yemen, appointed by the Persian emperor Kisraa, sent two envoys to the Messenger (S) to summon him. When they came into his presence, he noticed that they had shaved their beards and grew their moustaches. He hated to look at them (because of their odd appearance) and he said: Woe be to you, who told you to do so? They replied: "Our lord! (referring to Kisraa.)" The Messenger (S) then said: But my Lord, may He be exalted and glorified, has commanded me to leave alone my beard and to trim my moustache. [Recorded by Ibn Jarir at-Tabari, and judged to be Hasan (good) by al-Albani.] b. A Disobedience To the Messenger (S) Shaving the beard is a disobedience to the Messenger (S). In many hadiths, the Messenger (S) commanded men to leave alone their beards. These different hadiths have a similar meaning: Trim the moustache and save the beard. [Al-Bukhari and Muslim] Obeying the Messenger (S) in that is equivalent to obeying Allah (T) who said (what means): He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allah. [An-Nisaa 4:80] c. A Deviation from the Appearance and Guidance of the Messenger (S) Shaving the beard is a deviation from the appearance and guidance of the Messenger (S). The Messenger (S) used to have a large beard [Muslim]. One should strive to imitate him (S) in his practices, as Allah (T) said (what means):In the Messenger of Allah is a good example for you to follow. [Al-Ahzab 33:21] And the Messenger (S) said: Verily, the best guidance is Muhammad's guidance. [Muslim] d. A Deviation from the Way of Believers Shaving the beard is a deviation from the way of believers. All the prophets (S), the sahbah (Prophet's companions), the great `ulamaa, and the righteous early Muslims of this Ummah (Nation) grew their beards. There is no report of a single one of them ever shaving his beard. Thus, this is their way, and Allah (T) says (in the meaning): Whoever disobeys the Messenger after guidance has been clarified to him, and follows other than the path of the believers, We shall give to him what he deserves and broil him in hell, which is the worst abode. [An-Nisaa 4:115] e. An Imitation of the Disbelievers Shaving the beard is an imitation of the disbelievers. This has been emphasized in several hadiths of the Prophet (S). For example: Cut the moustaches and grow your beards. Be different from the Magians (followers of a religion that dominated in Persia). [Muslim] Cut your moustaches and leave your beards alone. Be different from the people of the scripture. [Muslim] Be different from the Mushrikin (those who worship other than Allah (T)); trim your moustaches and save your beards. [Al-Bukhari and Muslim] We have been commanded to be different and distinct from the disbelievers, as in surat ul-Fatihah. Also, Allah (T) said (what means): Follow not the whims of those who have no knowledge (of Islam). [Al-Jathiyah 45:18] And His Messenger (S) said: Whoever imitates a people is but one of them. [Recorded by Abu Dawud, and judged to be authentic by al-Albani] f. Changing Allah's Creation without Permission The Messenger (S) declared that the women who change what Allah (T) has created (such as removing the hair from their faces or filing their teeth or tattooing their bodies) seeking by that to improve their appearance, are accursed by Allah (T). [Al-Bukhari and Muslim] The hadith mentioned women in particular because they normally seek to beautify themselves more than men. But the warning surely applies to both sexes, because the condition for the curse is declared, and thus the curse applies to anyone who satisfies such condition. Shaving the beard falls under this warning, as it is much worse than the Nam (removal of facial hair) practiced by some women. It involves obeying Satan who said: And I shall tempt them until they change what Allah has created. [An-Nisaa 4:119] g. An Imitation of Women The beard is a major distinction between men and women. Shaving it removes this distinction, and is thus a means of imitating women. The Messenger (S) said: Allah curses those men who imitate the women, and He curses those women who imitate the men. [Al-Bukhari] h. Shaving the Beard Contradicts the Pure Fitrah (Nature) Allah's Messenger (S) mentioned ten qualities as indicative of a good, clean nature [Muslim]. Two of these qualities are to trim the moustaches and to grow the beard. The Messenger (S) also tells that every child is born with a clean, pure fitrah, which later may get deformed by the influence of the environment and the up-bringing. [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]. In the footsteps of the disbelievers, many Muslims' fitrah is now, unfortunately, so much deformed that they seem to find a clean-shaven man more handsome and masculine than one with a beard - exactly the opposite of what the Messenger (S) declared in the above hadith. This fitrah never changes with time: Allah (T) said (what means): The pure nature according to which Allah has created people. There is no change in Allah's creation. [Ar-Room 30:30] For shaving their beards, some men give the strange excuse that their wives prefer them without one! As if their purpose in this life is to follow the deformed inclinations of their wives instead of the clear-cut commands of Allah (T) and His Messenger (S)! Others claim that growing their beards results in an irritability and scratching. This cannot result from abiding by the pure fitrah, but would result (if true) from neglect of the proper cleaning and washing with wudu as instructed in the Sunnah. What the `Ulamaa and Imams Say All the `ulamaa of as-Salaf us-Saalih, including the Four Imams, agreed that shaving the beard is haram (prohibited). They considered shaving it an impermissible mutilation, as has been reported about Umar bin Abdil-Aziz. They used to consider the person who shaved his beard effeminate. Many of them would not accept his witness or allow him to lead the prayers. May Allah (T) guide us to abide by His Deen, and to adhere to His Messenger's Sunnah, and to be among those whom he blessed in both lives. by Abu`Abdillah Muhammad al-Jibaly All the `ulamaa of as-Salaf us-Saalih, including the Four Imams, agreed that shaving the beard is haram (prohibited). They considered shaving it an impermissible mutilation, as has been reported about Umar bin Abdil-Aziz. They used to consider the person who shaved his beard effeminate. Many of them would not accept his witness or allow him to lead the prayers.

I believe every Muslim has something to contribute to the Somali society. It's not the old that have destroyed our nation but its those that have taken the advice of shaitan. It's hypocrite's and munafiiq's that put us on our knee's. I believe those that have a keen interest in the building of our nation will be the heirs of a great tomorrow. Age is just a figure that stops at one point (death), but the legacy of a hero (old or young) never die's. Wa alaikum salam

It is indeed wonderful that one realizes that he or she is never going to get younger. Human beings have the arrogance of believing that they will freeze time. Realizing the importance of time is great on behalf of brother nuune. Now the question that one should ask him or herself is what have I done in the last 1 or 2 years? What have I done islamically, personally, and what have I gained from my so called determination for success? P.S. I have a question towards some of the Nomad. Some of you may wonder where certain members have been. How do you know that they didn't pass away. Maybe their last post, was their last breath. So pls do take advantage of time. Wa alaikum Salam

Wa alaikum salam brother Mujahid, According to most scholars of the past and present it is by far recommended that a sunni muslim follow a specific madhab from the four schools of thoughts. Since the light of Islam (prophet mohamed p.b.u.h) isn't with us then it would be necessary on our behalf to search for someone who would explain the hadiths and the tafsiir more adequately. Allah (swt) has given us the inheritors of the Rasul (Scholars) to explain things that normal human beings can't comprehend. Therefore its keen that we follow a specific madhab since that all four school of thoughts are following the Sunnah and the magnificant Quran. They only differ in some aspects, hanbali being the most strict in all of the four and its actually the school that most saudi's practice. I'm assuming that when it comes to some Islamic judgments most somali's follow Imam maliki's pupil. I personally would not comprehend most of the Islamic knowledge that is around if it weren't for the early scholars of Islam who devoted their time to help the next generation of muslims. Therefore its necessary that you do adopt a specific madhab, but its not necessary to follow a specific one. My knowledge on this subject stops at this point, I hope I have helped but do discuss with someone more knowledgable in this field. Allah knows best,