Originally posted by Mr. Somalia: quote:Originally posted by Fabregas_Bruv: Maybe Abdullahi yusuf is behind the rebels.kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk To Fabby: Have you been drinking or chewing khat ? Are you delusional? Are you presently taking any prescription or non-prescription medications? Are you hearing "voices" in your head? Are you feeling depressed or perhaps suicidal? I pride myself on providing proper education to the assorted dumb animals I keep in my private zoo(also known as the Politics Section of SOL), and your present mental state concerns me greatly...If you don't come around quickly, I'll be forced to put you down - I won't have Mad Hate Cabdulahitis Disease infecting and ravaging the rest of my livestock. The first sign of foam frothing at the corners of your cud chewing mouth and it will be a quick b1tchslap to the back of the head for you. You've been forewarned! Resume grazing peacefully... all that xaartalk because I mentioned the old fellas name, eh? Peacenow, surely you are not believing arab hearsay over your fellow somali negroes?

^^lol. ps.wagwan rudy!

this year i want to go from laf to

Well, they should be making dua for themselves in the first place. Allah said called upon and I shall answer you. As for the rest of your post, then it is the usal baris and jibberish, mixed with spicy Ethiopian pancakes.

Maybe Abdullahi yusuf is behind the rebels.kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

^^They were criticising them indirectly and directly before.

May Allah preserve Sheikh Umal.

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: quote:Originally posted by Fabregas_Bruv: quote: Originally posted by AfricaOwn: quote: Originally posted by Fabregas_Bruv: ^^Good night and say hello to your tribesmen in Garowe for me. I will call you garoweboy from now on, aryey blad. Call me just that... ps. Being called a garowe boy is not an insult to your folks. It is what it is right? Don't take it as an insult..Lets just not pretend over the internet. In that case, then why do you deny your origins(ie.Garoweboy)and instead pretend to be a Somalilander, aryey blad? Is because I switched sides to the winning team. My other team was just too weak and desprate. I am now on the same side as the brothers that The Bells Of Victory Have Tolled The Most Times For...You hear me dawg ps. You're trying too hard to change the script, and your alias was too obvious..step your game up. 1 Firstly, I was playing around. Secondly, I was only intending to show you how silly you sound with your " A is not a real somalilander and B is an alias" crap. Who gave you special powers to determine the geanelogical make up of unknown internet users? Thirdly, you confirmed to me that you are indeed a paranoid individual if you truly believe that I am garoodi, lol. Fourthly, you are a young brother, so I advise you to quit all this tribal bull which you are regurgitating like a lost sheep. Fifthly, aryey blad, have a good day.

Cowke, you need buy yourself some steroids then, you wimp. ps. wazzup, how comes u're not around in slife?

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: quote:Originally posted by Fabregas_Bruv: ^^Good night and say hello to your tribesmen in Garowe for me. I will call you garoweboy from now on, aryey blad. Call me just that... ps. Being called a garowe boy is not an insult to your folks. It is what it is right? Don't take it as an insult..Lets just not pretend over the internet. In that case, then why do you deny your origins(ie.Garoweboy)and instead pretend to be a Somalilander, aryey blad?

^^Good night and say hello to your tribesmen in Garowe for me. I will call you garoweboy from now on, aryey blad.

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: quote:Originally posted by Fabregas_Bruv: quote: Originally posted by AfricaOwn: quote: Originally posted by Fabregas_Bruv: quote: Originally posted by AfricaOwn: quote: Originally posted by Fabregas_Bruv: quote: Originally posted by AfricaOwn: quote: Originally posted by Che -Guevara: ^Good for you, but you can put your education to some good instead of b*llshitting. Please call us Somalis, don't know who Somalians are? You know this is a character, but yet you continue to respond..what's your aim Che? I'm onto you as well, blad, admit it, you're a garowe boy too, innit? Too many lames on the internet fronting. SL fears him that much? Tell the boy to calm down.. My nicca, I know you're a closet Garowe Boy and that is all that counts. So stop fronting and pretending to be a Somalilander, aryey, blad. lol..Are you the dude that the started this thread? No need for your reverse psychology BS..No one is buying it. SL still a poor state. You shouldn't fear it I say. Calm down and sit somewhere. Listen, Aryey dee, Blad, I have a good source of information showing that MR AFRICAOWN is infact from Garowe and a Puntlander. I think you should be proud of your heritage and admit who you are, aryey, blad, mr Garowe. You're probably right..I'm actually from Garowe, but I now go there just to piss and sh!t, and return to Erigavo to rest my head. Fair enough? lol..Silly lames. Don't fear SL dawg. Relax. Glad, you finally admitted it, my aryey blad. However, the recovery process will take some time and we'll soon have you repping your hometown Garowe, all day ever'day. I suggest you take some therapy lessons with your caz cowke. ps. what is this fear SL and hogwash paranoia you keep going on about? :confused:

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: quote:Originally posted by Fabregas_Bruv: quote: Originally posted by AfricaOwn: quote: Originally posted by Fabregas_Bruv: quote: Originally posted by AfricaOwn: quote: Originally posted by Che -Guevara: ^Good for you, but you can put your education to some good instead of b*llshitting. Please call us Somalis, don't know who Somalians are? You know this is a character, but yet you continue to respond..what's your aim Che? I'm onto you as well, blad, admit it, you're a garowe boy too, innit? Too many lames on the internet fronting. SL fears him that much? Tell the boy to calm down.. My nicca, I know you're a closet Garowe Boy and that is all that counts. So stop fronting and pretending to be a Somalilander, aryey, blad. lol..Are you the dude that the started this thread? No need for your reverse psychology BS..No one is buying it. SL still a poor state. You shouldn't fear it I say. Calm down and sit somewhere. Listen, Aryey dee, Blad, I have a good source of information showing that MR AFRICAOWN is infact from Garowe and a Puntlander. I think you should be proud of your heritage and admit who you are, aryey, blad, mr Garowe.

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: quote:Originally posted by Fabregas_Bruv: quote: Originally posted by AfricaOwn: quote: Originally posted by Che -Guevara: ^Good for you, but you can put your education to some good instead of b*llshitting. Please call us Somalis, don't know who Somalians are? You know this is a character, but yet you continue to respond..what's your aim Che? I'm onto you as well, blad, admit it, you're a garowe boy too, innit? Too many lames on the internet fronting. SL fears him that much? Tell the boy to calm down.. My nicca, I know you're a closet Garowe Boy and that is all that counts. So stop fronting and pretending to be a Somalilander, aryey, blad.

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: quote:Originally posted by Che -Guevara: ^Good for you, but you can put your education to some good instead of b*llshitting. Please call us Somalis, don't know who Somalians are? You know this is a character, but yet you continue to respond..what's your aim Che? I'm onto you as well, blad, admit it, you're a garowe boy too, innit?

is this part of your jajus training?

This is also the condition of the Ummah in those issues over which it has become divided and has differed over statements and acts of worship. These issues are among the things which bring about great trials upon the believers. They are in desparate need of two things: They need to repel the evil with which their peers have been afflicted, both in affairs of religion and worldly affairs, away from themselves, in spite of the drive within themselves calling to the same things. They, too, have selves and shayateen (i.e. calling them to evil), just as those who have already fallen into evil. Thus, when evil is seen from their peers, the evil tendencies within themselves are increased. So, even after eliminating the evil around them, the believers will remain with the evil drives within themselves and from the wiswaas of the shaitan. Motivators toward good are an exactly analogous situation: The believers are in need of bringing about the doing of good in others as a motivator toward good, as well as following their own, internal tendencies toward good. This is why there are so many people who never aspire to good nor to evil until they see someone else - especially among those they view as "peers" - doing a particular action. At that point, they will become interested and undertake that action, too. People are like the feathers of an owl, they instinctually gravitate toward conformity and imitation of each other. For this reason, the reward and the responsibility of one who establishes a new action for the first time is the same as those who follow him therein. The Prophet (sas) said: "Whoever establishes a good tradition will receive his reward for it together with the rewards of all those who follow it until the day of Qiyama, without that reducing their rewards in the least. And whoever establishes a bad tradition will be assigned its full responsibility together with the responsibility of all those who follow it until the day of Qiyama, without reducing their responsibility in the least." (Muslim) This is because their reality is one, and the status of anything is the status of its equals, and that which is similar to something is an extension of it. Now, since these two motivators are very strong (i.e. the inner drives towards good and towards evil, and the added motivation resulting from seeing others doing good or doing evil), imagine the situation when two additional motivators are added to them: This is the situation wherein many of the people of evil love anyone who agrees with them and their program, and the hate those who do not agree with them. This is very clear among the various false religions: each group is exceedingly loyal and devoted to (and only to) those who agree with them, and is exceedingly hostile towards those who do not agree with their programs or beliefs. This is frequently the case in worldly desires as well. Those who indulge in a particular form of pleasure consistently choose and prefer as friends and companions those who share their particular indulgence. This may be in order to aid one another in their pursuit of their pleasure, as in the case of those who conspire together to take over and tyrannize a country, or to form gangs and rob people and such like. Or, it may be simply for the sweetness of company and agreement, as in the case of those who come together to take intoxicants. They want everyone present to partake of their drink, and cannot tolerate the presence of a non-drinker. Perhaps this is due to their hatred of his being better than they are by staying away from their sin, or out of envy of his ability to resist temptation, or that he may not appear superior to them, and be praised by the people for his abstention despite their indulgence, or in order that he will have no argument or evidence against them, or because they are in fear of being turned over for punishment by him or by others, or for fear that he may "blackmail" them with that, and humiliate them, or other such reasons. Allah said: [Many of the people of the book wish that they could turn you back, after your faith, to be disbelievers out of envy originating within their own selves, that even after the truth has become clear to them.] Qur'an 2/109 And He said about the hypocrites: [They wish that you would disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you would (all) be the same.} Qur'an 4/89 The Khalifa Uthman ibn Affaan once said: The Adulteress wishes that all women would commit adultery. Their coming together in indulgence may be sharing in the very same sin, such as drinking of intoxicants together, telling lies and spreading forgeries, and holding corrupt beliefs. Or, they may choose to share in the sin in the abstract sense, as in the case of the adulterer who wishes that others would also commit adultery, or the thief who wishes that others would steal -- they wish that others would partake of their type of sin, but not of the very same object which they desire to steal, or to have in illegal sexual relations. The second additional motivator is as follows: They may enjoin upon an individual to participate with them in their unlawful actions; if he agrees to participate, he is left alone, but if he resists, they become his active enemies, persecuting him in a manner which may even become coercion. Then, these self-same people who wish for the participation of others in their despicable actions, or actually order them to do so, and seek the aid of others in order to bring him into their ways, at that point when he agrees to participate in their actions, and aid them, and obey them, they will at that point hold him in very little esteem, and will belittle and look down on him. This then, will become their argument and evidence against him and against listening to anything he says in other areas as well. (They call and incite him to a particular act, which they themselves are already doing, and when he finally succumbs, this is evidence used to disgrace him in the eyes of the people!!) This is the state of most of the oppressors who have been given some power in the land. These same motivators which are present in the doing of evil is also present with respect to doing good and its doers, and is even stronger. As Allah said: [And those who believe are stronger in love for Allah] Qur'an 2/166 Verily, every person also has an internal drive calling him to faith and knowledge, truthfulness and justice, and fulfillment of trusts. Thus, if he finds others who do these things as he does, there arises an additional motivator, especially if they are what he regards as "peers", and especially if there is a spirit of "competition" in doing of good. This is a praiseworthy type of competition. Then, if he finds others who love his agreement with them in what is good, and his participation in it from among the righteous believers, who also hate him when he deviates or does not do what is good, there arises a third motivator. Then, if they order him to do right, and are loyal and dedicated to him when he does, and oppose him and punish him when he neglects it, there arises a fourth motivator. http://www.java-man.com/Pages/Books/translatedbooks.html Ibn Taymiyah

“A debate is only justified to unveil truth, so that the more knowledgeable should impart knowledge to the less knowledgeable, and to stimulate a weaker intellect.” - adh-Dhahabi “I never talked with someone but sincerely wished that Allah guard him, protect him from sin and misdeed, and guide him; and I never debated with someone but sincerely wished that we would come upon truth, regardless of whether he or I should be the one to think of it first.” - Imam al-Shafi`i “Cooperation in seeking truth is inherent to religion, but sincerity in the pursuit of truth can be distinguished y certain conditions and signs. A diligent seeker of truth may be compared to one who is looking for his lost camel. It would be immaterial for him if he or another person should be the one to find it. Likewise, a sincere truth-seeker would perceive his partner as a helper rather than an adversary, and would be grateful to him if he should guide him to truth.” - Al-Ghazali “If quoting, maintain accuracy; if claiming, provide proof.” [An aphorism of Muslim scholars] “Some scholars used to excuse anyone who disagrees with them in debatable matters, and did not insist that he should accept their view. - Ibn Qudama [Al-Mughni] “My viewpoint is right, but can be wrong; and my adversary’s viewpoint is wrong, but can be right.” [An aphorism of Muslim scholars] “I have never debated with a knowledgeable person but beaten him, and I have never debated with an ignorant person but been beaten by him.” - Imam al-Shafi`i “Let each one of the debaters accept statements of the other party supported with proof. By doing that, he would demonstrate a nobility and self-respect, and he would prove himself to be an acceptor of truth.” - Ibn Akeel “Over-enthusiasm is a mark of corrupted scholars, even when the case they are defending is true. By showing excessive enthusiasm for truth and their contempt of their opponents, the latter would be stimulated to retaliate and react in the same manner. They would be driven to stand for falsehood and to be true to the label attributed to them…If the champions of truth had spoken kindly to them avoiding publicity and humiliation they would have succeeded in winning them over. But as it is, a person who enjoys a place of prestige is strongly inclined to preserve his position by attracting followers, and the only way to that is to boast and to attack or curse adversaries.” - Al-Ghazali “I never debate with someone and he accepts my proof except that I hold him in high esteem, and I never debate with someone and he refuses my proof except that I lose all esteem for him.” - Imam al-Shafi`i “If you sit with scholars, my son, be more interested in listening than in speaking. Learn good listening just as you learn good speaking. Never interrupt a speaker, even if he takes long, until he comes to an end.” -Advice of Al-Hasan ibn Ali (radhiallahu `anhu) to his son. “Learn good listening just as you learn good speaking. To be a good listener, you should give a speaker time until he concludes, not seeming anxious to reply. Have your face and look in the direction of the speaker and try to understand what he says.” - Ibn al-Muqaffa` http://www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=661

^^ Another 15 years, eh? Suppose another group that irritates you takes over from them and then rules for another 20 years, will you await another 15 years and pray for their downfall too? The problem is that you seem like a utopianist, idealist and you don't know what you exactly want for your homeland. What the hell is a " sound somali inspired ideology"? Call me when you politically eliminate almost every ideology/group in Somalia.

^^lol. I'm sure you'll find something black you look close enough. ps. I don't have problems with the Somali flag( I have one in my crib, somewhere,lol). But if I was you I wouldn't pin my hopes on a couple of students throwing stones and wailing over the flag of a dead society. The revolution will need to be bigger than that sxb.

^^ You joker, bruv, I said if it is the only thing you had. Come on, would you use it or too much blasphemy against somaliweyn?

If you were in the middle of nowhere and you had no water or tissues, and you had a stomach bug, and the only thing you had with you was the somali flag, would you use it?

Whoever took down the flag with the shahada or tried to burn it should be arrested or lashed.

Somalilander