The whole article is too biased and simplistic to address such an important issue. I am not expert on this subject, but I believe most Islamists/Muslims would readily admit that the USA has more rights for Muslims and is, in fact, better than many Arab/Muslim regimes. Majority of people who have launched or being caught attempting to launch attacks on US soil have rarely used the "islamaphobia" that exists on US soil as a an excuse for what they were attempting to do, rather they see this as a legitimate response to the support for Israel, the torture in US or US funded prisons, the support for Israel, Afghanistan, the desceration of Islamic holy books in various US ran institutions, the crimes in Guantanomo, Iraq, Afghanistan the so called extraordinary renditions and so and so forth. Simpleton writers such as this one want to make the reader believe that, since everything is supposedly rosy for Muslim in the US, then surely the whole solution to the problem lies in simply focusing on Muslim websites, inmates and mosques( fifth columinsts, eh?). I believe this to merely be a sugarcoating of an international problem which has mainly global roots. In fact, I believe most US mosques and Websites have largely toned down their anti US rhetoric since 9/11, they regurlarly condemn Islamist groups and some are know becoming more localised by developing what they have referred to as "American Islam or Muslim American identity". Heck, some Islamic groups and mosques were raising money and praying for the victims of the Fort Hord. Other Muslims groups in the UK publicly renounced their links to Anwar Al Awalaki and some started to refute him. Did Nidal Hassan do what he did as a reaction to global and personal events or was he pushed to do what he did by US mosques, websites or prisons?

Muslims turned/restored the kaba and mecca into places where only Allah was worshiped. The Muslims destroyed the idols, but some of the rites of hajj were kept as Muslims believe that these were all ancient centers of monotheism which were later corrupted by the Quraish tribe. On the other hand, Christians clearly incorprated paganism into their religion and they compromised on many aspects of their religion in order to appease Rome. All of this occured after the time of Jesus and his followers. This is why they are accused by Muslims, Jews and even some Atheist academics of changing their religion and diluting it with paganism. See the difference, mr smartypants(Raamsade)? There is a clear difference here for the people of intellect; for example, almost every religion has beads, but what makes something pagan and another monotheism is who is being praised and supplicated to. ps. your thread has been hijacked. blame that argumentative raamsade.

@Marx, Stop obfuscating, sxb. I am not aware of church bells being removed in Turkey. In any case, this is completely irrelevant to this discussion, lest you are saying two wrongs make a right. Your poor attempt to analyse my religious thoughts is also not relevant to the discussion. We are discussing your lauding of the EDL as heroes of mother Britannia. Here We have a group that mainly consists of notorious football hooligans, people with known racist views and drunks, and a few intellectuals behind the scenes, which is actively trying to provoke confrontations with Muslims. Now, you have the audacity to claim that these groups are: " only defending their country against terrorists and bogus asylum seekers". Furthermore, you actually have the nerve to compare these folks to heroic SOmalis who defended their country from colonialism. I find this view extremely odd, especially when it comes from a fellow Muslim. How does protesting outside harrow mosque and insulting the Islamic religion in public equate to "defending Britain against "bogus" asylum seekers and "terrorists". Surely you don't believe that Harrow Masjid houses illegal immigrants or that it is colonising Britain? Is there Al Muhajiroun in Harrow Mosque? Has Harrow Mosque ever supported any terror act? The fact that this group chooses to protest outside mainstream mosques shows they want to incite Muslim youths into violence and ethnic related violence, something they hope will bring them more supporters and followers. Can you tell us how your heroes(EDL) are defending Britain from bogus asylum seekers and terrorists? Who is occupying and colonising Britain? Colonising and Occupation is what the Israelis you openly supported in Gaza are doing to the Palestinain population. It is ironic that you deny Palestinians the right to defend themselves, yet you view attempts to force Muslims youths into confrontations as heroic acts which are comparabale to the SOmalis who defended their country against colonialism.

BOB, the likes of villa and everton are totally hyped up. so are their managers( Oneill and Moyes), who are good organisers and motivators, but completely lack in the technical department. This is evident if you watch the romanian and other average teams completely pass the ball around these teams. Hodgson is someone i rate though. Aston villa beat Manutd by luck( see how many chances manu had), whereas Fulham play nice passing football and their manager has vast experience around Europe. ps. Fabregas is a great player. But he has to step up, be more consistent and do what he did today against the bigger teams. he also tends to get injured alot(he limped off today too). Abou diaby will be the best CM in the prem in a couple of years. take my word for it.

Originally posted by MoonLight1: Mine is 1- Alshabab will lose the final battle of Mogadishu. Wish or prediction?

@Marx, Maybe people like you(yes you) who supported the Israelis siege and their colonisation of the Gaza strip? People like you who insult the jalabeeb and the Muslim womans clothing all because you have an inferiority complex about how Jack and Ron willl think about you. People like you who have to even side with drunks and racists just so to appear all "ilbax" and enlightened. In any case, I don't see how Muslim Assylum seekers or "terrorists" can be equated with occupiers and colonisers. This is a really silly analogy on your behalf. Secondly, it is the job of the governmennt and appropriate authorities to stop bogus asylum seekers and terrorists. It is not the job of football hooligans, drunks, open Nazi supporters and people who intimdiate vunerable woman on the tube. In Luton, a mosque(which is firmly against the almuhajiroun) was set fire to, muslim shops were ransacked, a muslim girl was beaten and a mosque was set fire to at night. So these right wing groups and their affliates are hardly some great, patriotic citizens defense force. Let's just hope your eedo doesn't get attacked on one cold night, all because she happens to be wearing a funny looking " penguin hijab", by some drunkard, anti islamic thug. On that day, I hope you will not ask: Why is it that when its the turn of the Muslims to have a little bit of abuse come their way, that Muslims play the victim card??

BOB, stop talking to yourself, sheikh. you predicted correct on most of them. good shout.btw- the top four are playing vert average this season, no real players you can pick out as outstanding. good show by Fab today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1238213/This-England-On-trail-English-Defence-League .html

The following short, but uncompleted story( of sorts): As he stood in front of his mirror, neatly brushing the afro on his slightly extended forehead into shape, Cawale Mohamed, the rangy Somali teenager from North London, was eagerly looking ahead to his much-anticipated date with Nimco. Cawale and Nimco had met at a poetry contest, which was organised by a government funded youth group. She was a nice girl from a hardworking family. Cawale told her he was studying A Levels at a local college. After combing the Afro, his next mission was to convince his argumentative, but extremely intelligent roommate, SOAS graduate and older brother, Abdisamad, to lend him his slick River Island Jacket. Cawale’s persuasion mission was successful. After uploading some more music onto his phone and checking whether he had everything he needed for the third time, Awale had one more mission to accomplish. He quickly dashed to the basement room. The young warrior checked if anyone was lurking and then he hurriedly concealed the Knife into the inside pocket of the Black River Island jacket. This was an almost daily routine. By now, Cawale had made his out of the high rising block of New Labour flats. But as he walked a hundred or so metres, he could not believe his eyes: the dreaded Askar were there. They had set up a checkpoint. 5 technicals were also parked on the other side of the road.It was clear that they were looking for any young warriors with links to the Brixton Burco Boyz FAM Clan. In a moment of sudden panic, Awale turned back home. He had the dilemma of his young life. A brief battle occurred between his two conflicting rationales. Should he leave his knife behind and daringly cross onto the territory of the Shepherd Bakara Market Boyz? What if the police sent him back to the young offenders institute ? The boys’ sensible rationale slowly took over. It was not worth the risk, he figured. More importantly, his mind reassured him that it was unlikely he would bump into the rival FAM on a wet Wednesday night. So once again, Awale set out for his meeting, though this time without the knife. Bismillah, in the name of Allah, the young warrior said in his mind, as he departed. All was well. The police did not pay attention to the smartly dressed, lanky teenager. Cawale boarded the now almost deserted Victoria Line. He had arranged to meet Nimco at the village, the famous Somali restraint in Hammersmith, West of London. Halfway through the journey, a strange visitor interrupted him. “Salamualaykum, Akhi, how are you doing"?,the bearded stranger enquired. Before he could make sense of the face, Cawale politely replied, “Wa'laykumsalam bro”. “You don’t remember me do you…you used to live on the road Farm Estate, innit”?, the bearded man enquired. “Yeah”, Awale Replied. Normally Awale would lie about what side of town he was from. But the white thobes and beard was a sign of trust. “It’s me, Jerome, but they call me Abu Salafi now”, said the now recognisable figure. A chorus of relieving laughter and some catching up followed. Abu Salafi explained how his life had changed after an invitation to Islam by a polite Somali Sheikh named Tahir. He had also married a Somali girl. Writing Grime lyrics was no longer part of his life. Before he got off half way thorough the journey, Abu Salafi lectured Awale on the dangers of sinning, how the Shababs (youth in Arabic) of today must change and how the turncoats were betraying the religion. Abu Salafi gave him a list of deviated sects to steer clear from. Cawale had forgotten most of them by the time the driver instructed the passengers that they were now nearing the last station: the (notorious)Bush Bakara Market.

Fomer Liverpool and Everton defender star Abel Xavier has quit football, converted to Islam and changed his name. The Portugal star now wants to go by the name of Faisal Xavier and will embark on humanitarian projects after failing to find a club. He last played for LA Galaxy in 2008 and he has now decided to give up on his career.Xavier, 37, joined Liverpool from Everton in 2002 and scored twice in 21 appearances for the club. Abel Xavier: At Liverpool... Ex-Merseyside star Abel Xavier gives up football and converts to Islam - Everton News from football.co.uk

^^I counted about 5667 at an eid gathering. Plus half the jamat at friday prayers in several london Mosques seems to be Somalians. That's 12000 right there.

^^"Invisible" citizens?( serious question)

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Originally posted by MAXIMUS POWERS: ^ Your silly ghetto say-walahi nacnac is getting boring sxb. "Ghetto NacNac" is far better than passing off self obsessive, self hating, right wing- UKIP propaganda, laced with Boris Johnson regurgitated verbal poo, mixed with anti Islamic bull,and tribalistic cocunut drivel, as intellectualism, like you seem to do.

The people in Malindi are celebrating with joy, the times are good, so rejoice, my fellow Africans. People are eating plenty of fish and rice, oh happy days. Thanks to SOmali pirateen, the illegal leeches( aka trawlers) who were polluting, looting and destroying the livelihood of many Ifriqiyan peoples, have all but largely disappeared. These are not my words, ya ifriqiyans, watch the evidence for yourself: . A word of caution and some advice though: I urge the thoroughbred Somali fishermen of Noble Ifriqiyan and Arabian origins to; 1. Stop all acts of kidnapping and ransoming 2. Appoint an Emir of the pirateen, then; 3. Negotiate a treaty with the western powers. The following points shall be of particular importance: 1. The creation of An economic safety zone whereby no trawlers of fishing looters can enter 2. the world should train a 10 000 elite army of Somali coastguards 3. All detainees should be released by the pirateen 4. The west should pay compensation for the wars and massacres against Somalis from the colonial period, black hawk down, to the current ocean looting and pollution. 5. They should also fund elite Somali students to enter Oxford and the other well established universities. These students should return home once they finish their studies. Every person should aim to at least teach one illiterate Somali how to read every month. 6. The Arabs and the other Muslim nations should fund elite Somali students to enter the major Islamic universities. Moreover, they should help create a major Islamic University in Somalia which will serve as the hub of Cilm for all Ifriqiyan Muslims. 7. The pirateen should stop wasting their money and instead build a major railway system which will go through northern Somalia and serve as a business link between the country. This will make them the business dons of Somali history. They will make more money than they are currently earning. 8. Lastly, all major pirateen leaders should repent, give up their lives of luxury, use their money to marry as many wives as the religion permits and become campaigners for the liberation of Ifriqiyan resources; for God doesn't like the dalimeen, the mujrimeen and the fasiqeen. See Yall after the new year. Peace and victory to all the thoroughbred Islamic SOmali people of noble cushitic and Arabian origins.

^^Kashafa reportedly joined Tabliq movement. Marx, fulay, blad, you edited your previous comment.

Kismayo

It looks like they wanna get the hell out. Maybe someone should sponsor them to come and live in the west.

QUOTE: Somalis now represent the biggest threat to security in Western cities and places that they inhabit Is there like an anti Somali Spray or something I can use, next time I see a dangerous Somali creature on road?

Originally posted by Cowke: Liqaye, this individual contacts me on the phone through phone booths. He always tells me when an attack will occur the day and time and who will be targetted. After I realized this guy is actually saying exactly when this stuff will occur 3 times straight, I started to take him serious. He doesn't give his name, but he did divulge last time I talked to him that he met ilkajir in holland and signed a masharic deal with him. This masharic deal is just "set-up" to keep puntland from looking at him as a suspect but viewing him and his organization as "legal" within puntland when he goes there next summer. Anyways I gave my piece on the issue and I am certain because i test my source 3 times before finally opening my eyes up. yoo forgot this brother( who attempted a one man PL invasion of all somali cyber forums in 2009). but good 1 still

Allow it, Abti, blad.

lol. I never knew you were into hibhowb. What's your street nickname; Jay Dawg B? PS.You know it's weird how people back home are down with all the famous hip hop artists and the like. When I went to the city of Angeles(laska), I was surprised how everyone knew PAC n BIG. The people even walk around with tupac shirts with some dollar signs or something, ha ha. I remember me and my cousins used to prank peoples housephones by calling and asking if they had seen Tupac Shakur, lol. And there was this Xamari guy who used to sing the SHaggy song " it wasn't me" in Somali language. He thought the "wasn't me" meant a dirty SOmali word, lol, istaqfurullah.